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10 Tips to Appear as an Attractive High Value Man (w/o Good Looks, Money, or Fame)

MK2718

June 10, 2021

42 upvotes

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Regardless of your so called 'status' in life, you still have the opportunity to distinguish yourself via your actions and behaviors. By adopting the following behaviors, you can come off as being a more attractive and high value person.

Do not try to buy or barter for a person’s attention or affection.
Speak honestly and be willing to disagree.
Do not be desperate for another person’s approval or for them to like you.
Do not be ashamed about your genuine interest in a person or opportunity. Don’t act like there is a reason why you may not be good enough for them.
Do not actively chase a person.
Do not react involuntarily to other people's actions, but respond comprehensively.
Do not act jealous.
Do not try to actively impress, qualify or prove yourself.
Do not enter interview mode and feel that its your job to keep a conversation going.
Do not try to force something. Assume your value, make your intentions known and let it naturally occur.

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Title	10 Tips to Appear as an Attractive High Value Man (w/o Good Looks, Money, or Fame)
Author	MK2718
Upvotes	42
Comments	32
Date	June 10, 2021 1:07 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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[–]dasanman69 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Brohammer53 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

It comes off a bit naive, to assume you have anymore understanding of men than I do women. Still, confidence in your stance is admirable. I will elaborate and provide an example of what I mean when I say women don't usually give men straight, untangled advice.

Women tend to speak indirectly, hyperbolically. Perceivably, to men who are completely inexperienced, almost cryptically. Men take things almost always at a glance as literally. If not prompted to dwell on a thought, the understanding will remain as literal. Even then, there are times we never connect the dots the way she intended within the timeframe of her interest anyways.

For instance, when a woman says to a man "I wish you were more sensitive", the man's first conclusion is that she wants him to express himself emotionally, moreso than he currently is. In reality, that's not what she meant or wanted, as doing just that almost always ends in women becoming repulsed and distant, despite being what was directly communicated.

Her statement actually means, practically, "I wish you'd pay more attention to MY emotions, MY sensitivities.", which is obviously not what was literally/directly stated, nor will likely ever be unless in last resort as women often seem to think having to admit to needs is embarrassing, despite going without saying. For years, feminism told women they don't need anybody or anything besides themselves. Meant to instill self reliance and independence, the indirect consequence is implying they are incomplete, even weak if they do need some semblance of external male support, which has generated unnecessary barriers between us.

Your point in that the customer will always easily distinguish whether or not the dish is shit ends exactly there, that's as deep as you're able to diagnose. You will never be able to pinpoint exactly for what reasons (ultimately why) said dish is shit, unless you have the chef explain the entire process accurately, which will inevitably encounter some barrier for one reason or another on either end of the interaction. (Chef's possible insecurity, purposeful dishonesty, simple misunderstandings, lack of relatability, the list continues)

You are correct in that often times pickup artists or dating/life coaches try to monetize their practice and so encourage people to stick around or buy a thing, except nobody is going to stick around for or buy something that isn't working or remotely useful. Even the most desperate will succumb to discouragement attempting to practice ineffective methods. Additionally I could argue they aren't actually selling the book, they're selling a culmination of ideals and small steps for men to act out in a bid to instill values that don't only just lead to a specific intended real world consequence, but also leading us at least closer on track to where we would like to eventually be mentally.

I think the introduction to the last paragraph is illuminating, even if you didn't mean to suggest we're effectively idiots. Even the most hopeless realize doing nothing solves nothing, but it's not like we can simply undo the consequences of indoctrination specifically regarding 3rd and 4th wave feminism (imo), and moreover the damage it indirectly caused to a pre-existing dynamic between the sexes.

Anyways, as a final edit, if you're willing, I'd like your input on someone I draw a good portion of my understanding from. Please tell me your opinion of Corey Wayne, once you've watched a bit on youtube. Keep in mind I have voiced my own position in what I have written, not necessarily what he believes.

[–]Medical_Slide8640 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

For instance, when a woman says to a man "I wish you were more sensitive", the man's first conclusion is that she wants him to express himself emotionally, moreso than he currently is. In reality, that's not what she meant or wanted, as doing just that almost always ends in women becoming repulsed and distant, despite being what was directly communicated.

Her statement actually means, practically, "I wish you'd pay more attention to MY emotions, MY sensitivities.", which is obviously not what was literally/directly stated, nor will likely ever be unless in last resort as women often seem to think having to admit to needs is embarrassing, despite going without saying.

Being sensitive by definition means sharing one's own AND being receptive to other's emotions. Men in the -we know what women want even though we are not women- category need to start looking up the definition of things.

Women have wanted BOTH of the above from men since the dawn of time. No sane woman becomes repulsed by a man sharing his emotions. That is what makes us fall in love.

But we do get repulsed by men who only share their own and are blind and deaf to ours.

No. Women are not at all embarrassed by saying what they need. They sometimes get sick of saying it in a thousand ways only for the man to just insist on continuing being wrong. Very similar to this thread where men just pat themselves on the back and argue against a woman who is literally giving them the straight forward information on the thing they spend so much effort trying to figure out. We just get tired of men not wanting to get it and give up.

If men would stop sharing this sort of nonsensical "wisdom" among each other we would all get along so much better.

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[–]TashInAwe 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He must have been someone very special and I'm sure she is too.

I find it irritating when men I am not interested continue to chase me. But it's not a complicated formula. It's simply because of that reason: that I am already not interested. If they are gorgeous and kind and talented and good hearted obviously let them chase all they want.

But I've never been drawn to anyone who couldn't take no for an answer unless the no really was because I was seeing someone else who I was already having some doubts about. But that's a different story.

I have, however, found myself more attracted to people who took 'no' in stride and stayed in my life, showing me their worth without making it an attempt to make me change my mind. If someone can hear 'no' and not run away with their tail between their legs it is a valuable trait. The friend zone only exists if you're not attracted to the person.

[–]MK2718 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]AmateurAtLife1 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What's great about it? We follow these basically all the time. In the end, the world revolves qround women and at the very top sits the 1% of men who are goodlooking and/or rich and/or attractive who have it easiest above all else.

The average woman has a massive picking pool and the average guy gets lucky if he even receives a compliment. Being "normal" doesn't work all it does it just not get you noticed.

No offense but you couldn't understand how it is for us. And the same goes for us to you but at the end of the day, in this part of life, we have it worse.

Even in nature, the male had to impress the female. From male bugs that dance to male bugs that have to have a healthy coat of fur to male monkeys that have to prove the toughest. All throughout life, males are the ones having to impress. If women can understand 1 thing about men I pray to get almighty and the universe its this. Women are the chosers at the end of the day and the only competition among them is when competing for that 1% of men.

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No. My point was, it is a massive turn of when men don't chase, court, put lots of effort in, show interest and try to gain your affection, even though they clearly want it.

It shows they have no real drive. Can you imagine giving this advice to someone who wanted to get a certain job or achieve some other goal? Subconsciously it is off putting to observ a man want something but do nothing to get it.

A man is supposed to be proactive by nature. That is real confidence. It takes strength of character, positivity, creativity, and balls of steel to try to impress a woman.

The behaviour listed above on the other hand has strong feminine energy.

In my life non of these passive types ever got a chance. Regardless any qualities they might have had. Why would they, when I had all these other really masculine, fun, encouraging, romantic and persuasive guys stealing my attention?

Years later, I can see the first type of "I don't need to do things" men are still single unfortunately.

Edit: number 5 and 8 are literally romantic suicide for a man. If anyone bothered to actually ask women.

[–]MO_drps_knwldg 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Chasing and courting are not the same. Chasing is pursuing someone who shows little interest in you, you bend over backwards to get their attention, sometimes buying things like OP mentioned. Being courted is showing appreciation and taking initiative for someone who shows you the same amount of interest, or at least respect.

Number four isn’t passive or weak, it advocates for not being afraid to show you’re interested in someone. It’s weak behavior to pretend you’re not interested in someone to get a reaction out of them.

Number five is one of the golden rules for attracting women, not attraction suicide.

Last point—men should not typically listen to advice from women on how to seduce women. It’s insightful to know what women appreciate, but women will often gloss over what they really find attractive to save face.

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