Hey guys and girls,

So from the age of 18 till last year I followed RSD. I was never really good with women or people in my age in generall. It got alot better in the last year due to Psychotherapy, self improvement and Medication.

I watched a lot of their old pickup stuff before it got taken down. I always thought that they had insane pricetags and luckily I never bought anything from them.

So yesterday I coincidentally found a few videos about them being scammers and ripping people off.

What is your opinion, are they really as bad as a few other guys on youtube make them?

I was super close to buying the Online business program from Max Tornov, former RSD Max. Luckily I didnt have the funds for it.

In generall I get the feeling that the whole pickup community is suuuper dodgy.

I dont know if I actually can trust any of the "gurus" out there.

I would love to improve my datinglife but as I said I get the feeling that all of them are scammers.

Especially John Anthony Lifestyle made alot of negative videos about RSD but uses some of the same sales tactics as them, (free 30 minute call, same landingpage for his programs with "fake" testimonials etc.)

Is he trustworthy? Couse he says that his Programs are not overcomplicated like the ones from RSD which apperantly are designed to confuse the audience instead of helping them so they go and buy the next product from them.

All the stuff I found on Reddit was quite old and not really up to date.

Its my first post here on Reddit, I am completely new to the platform. I hope I posted it in the right section.