Can a guy who is a 4 pull a girl who is 8 or 9?

SplurgyA · 2010-11-13T16:23:58+00:00

Sense of humor, strong values, confidence, money, power, prestigious job & title, education, pedigree, good fashion sense, sense of mystery, and intrinsic PUA wisdom.

Combine as many of those as you can and you can see how it's entirely possible.

2010-11-13T17:27:32+00:00

Do you really think you are a 4?!

You're an athletic/skinny 6"1 guy, so you can't be all that bad physically, and with a little work could clean up real nice, probably to at least a 7. The rest is just learning game, which means of course it's possible to pull a 9, it just takes a lot of hard work and practice.

testingngitset · 2010-11-13T16:29:35+00:00

Last year, I dated a girl for about 6 months. Everybody including my brother, friends, and my parents even, said she was way out of my league. Made me feel good actually when they said it. I mean, I'm a decent looking guy, but tall, scrawny, pale faced, and I drink and smoke excessively. This girl was a total 9, super hot, awesome body.

Every single time when we went out, without fail, she would get hit on my numerous guys. She was mine though, so I was never jealous, never got upset, and even "made friends" with the guys that would hit on her. She would ask me "Don't you get jealous or mad with all these guys hitting on me?" And I would smile and say "They don't bother me", and that's why she loved me so much. She loved my humor, confidence, lack of neediness, and non-jealous attitude, (and I'm good in bed).

We eventually decided to break up because she needed to move to Miami for a job opportunity (she's in fashion), and we agreed that long distance isn't going to work (i'm in NYC). We still talk every now and then on the phone to catch up. She has a new boyfriend out there and I'm getting laid like crazy out here in NYC. So there's no hard feelings between us at all. I love this city!

TL;DR Yes, anybody can pull a hot girl, 8, 9, or 10. It's kind of a cliche thing to say, but it really is all about your attitude. Hot girls don't want to fuck some chump who is going to get upset if any guy hits on her. She can have any guy she wants, SO BE THE GUY SHE WANTS (non-jealous, confident, humorous, non needy, etc.)

Mouthpiece · 2010-11-13T18:25:37+00:00

Ever seen before and after pictures of Style?

Any man can pull far above his looks given the right approach.

2010-11-13T17:26:48+00:00

Of course its possible. if its not possible then what are you going to do about it? not trying?

GeneralissimoFranco · 2010-11-13T17:50:06+00:00

TBH, it's more about self-confidence (EDIT: mostly this), notoriety/wealth, and your personality than how you look for many women.

However, if you are judging yourself as a 4 in looks, that does not bode well for your self-confidence.

Sure, you might be trying to be realistic with yourself, but being realistic NEVER wins you the lottery (you'd probably not even bother buying the ticket in that case).

ApuaA · 2010-11-13T18:46:08+00:00

"Out of your league? Shit, son. Get out there and make a move. Let HER decide if she won't fuck you."

Don't know where I heard that, but I love it.

cheddarchexmix · 2010-11-13T19:43:46+00:00

If you are 6"1 and skinny and have an average face, you can pull anyone up to a 10 with the right game. Make sure you have good grooming, etc., but mostly improve your game. Asking a question like this probably means you are really early into learning the techniques, so just practice practice practice.

sockthepuppetry · 2010-11-13T21:07:42+00:00

Yes, this is the premise of every Judd Apatow movie. Besides the number scale is only useful insofar as it measures how much a girl gets approached. Therefore it doesn't really apply to guys. The equivalent for men would be PUA skills, like AFC4, PUA7, etc... but the whole point of pickup is the change of that quantity so it's not really useful to label and limit yourself as being one number.

Besides, on physical attractiveness alone, what makes you think you're a 4? Dude, you're 6'1" and consider yourself a 4? I'm 5'3" and consider myself a 7. One of us is wrong. But to be a 4, I'd think you would have to be borderline deformed e.g. bad acne, no smile, blotchy skin. Don't sell yourself so short.

serenader · 2010-11-13T21:17:58+00:00

I have seen ugliest/old/broke guys with most beautiful girls. Its all how you approach it stupid!

A 40 yo buddy of mine is juggling 5 gals youngest one is 22 and damn hot. don't let anything hold you back.

ihaveabu · 2010-11-14T02:05:53+00:00

a guy who is a 4 could be a 6 to someone else, or a 2 to another girl. and when they're ovulating, you're a 9. lol

a woman's judgment of a man based on a scale of 10 is less accurate than a man's judgment of a woman on the same scale.

and most importantly, women don't look at looks as a deciding factor as much as men do. confidence rooted in you, career, humor, etc all have to do with it. if you think you're only a 4, you'll act like a 4 around women, and they'll see that you have no self worth. who the hell said you're a 4? on what scale are they basing that off of? women who are 10's are 10's no matter which guy looks at them. men vary a bit more

2010-11-15T20:50:33+00:00

If you're not rating yourself as a 10, you have confidence issues that are going to affect your game in a negative way. Work on inner game and the rest will be much easier.

Every man should think (KNOW) that he is the best man in the universe. If you haven't realized this yet, how are you going to get women to realize it?

Barney21 · 2010-11-15T22:26:08+00:00

Google image search: salman rushdie girlfriend

Kurt Vonnegut says in "Timequake" that all writers have pretty wives. "Someone should look into this".

2010-11-13T19:34:39+00:00

iam athletic/skinny, i workout, height is 6"1

Well, if you are a 4 then I am a 2. I'm not sure if I should call you a jackass or tell you to get mo' self esteem.

Okay, how old are you?

intjpua · 2010-11-13T16:33:17+00:00

Are you fat (not merely having a few extra pounds...I mean 40+ lbs overweight)? If so, then almost certainly not. If you're fit, then yeah, it's possible. Probably not easy, but definitely possible. Being really fat is a huge detriment to game, and the hottest girls simply aren't going to see you as a sexual being, unless you have something else going for you (being a musician with fans, for instance, or some other well-known figure).

The general consensus is that game can easily give you two deviations worth of "attractiveness", but I've known ugly guys who went well beyond that. One of the ugliest dudes I ever knew fucked damned near every girl in our social circle (including 7s, 8s and 9s), and ended up marrying a beautiful woman (about an 8, but she was also a sweetheart and reportedly a great cook, so probably a great catch).

Coming back to the fat question...my best friend in high school was on the chubby side, probably 30-40 pounds overweight, and a little bit short. He was cute, though, so he wasn't working against being homely and fat. He pulled like crazy, too, and his standards were extremely high. His girlfriend for two years was a solid 9; just a smoking body for a high school girl. He went after every 9 and the one 10 in our high school with gusto. Only landed one of them during school (though he reported success with a couple of other 9s when I saw him a few years later; I guess he'd kept in touch after school, and once the cliques no longer applied they were willing to go out with him), but he pursued and they all loved him for it.

But, you should be working on all aspects of your game. If you're not fit, get fit. If you don't have a good haircut, get a good haircut. If you don't dress nice, read up on how to dress and go shopping. If you wear glasses, try contacts or at least get fashionable glasses. These changes can bump you up at least one point...maybe even two or three if you're fat and losing the weight.

neonshaun · 2010-11-13T18:07:35+00:00

Do you have money? If the answer is yes, then you too can pull a girl who is an 8 or a 9!!!!!!!!!

Title	Can a guy who is a 4 pull a girl who is 8 or 9?
Author	testingngitset
Upvotes	6
Comments	47
Date	November 13, 2010 4:00 PM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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