In your experience, how has being lazy/strict about your physique affected the response you get from women?

PLplotsOTS · 2012-01-27T21:29:22+00:00

IMO there is little to be gained from this discussion because

Your physical health should take priority over your exploits with women. This falls under the "don't let the girl run your life" rule.
Regardless of whether it helps or hurts outer game, the benefits of exercise to inner game are indisputable (thanks AveofSpades).
I'm at a loss as to how we can accurately isolate the effect of physique from other factors.

johnny878 · 2012-01-27T20:05:54+00:00

im 6 3 and 235 lbs.

for reference. I grew my hair back out now btw lol. this was 2 months ago http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/0628010240b.jpg/

I get freebies... non-fat average looking girls i dont have to try with. Even when i was in shape with a full head of hair and not big, i never got freebies.

however, it seems like some girls either dig it or dont. I get approached on rare occasion now and never did before. But i also get instant rejected now more then ever before. and girls reject alot harsher then before. When I was skinny, I just got polite signs of disinterest.

Level_75_Zapdos · 2012-01-27T23:18:48+00:00

Rest in Protein, Zyzz.

crazyinthecoconut · 2012-01-27T20:23:12+00:00

I'm not especially big. I;m 5'10 152lbs. But my physique is quite similar to Brad Pitt from Snatch and Fight Club. So it doesn't really make itself explicitly apparent unless I've already worked out that day or my shirt is off. I think girls see it as a example of my inner drive and discipline. And so they get self-conscious that they don't measure up.

AveofSpades · 2012-01-27T21:03:24+00:00

When you work out your body releases endorphins so that you feel more badass and better about yourself in an overall sense. Regardless of where you are in the 'going to the gym' part of the game, going to the gym helps your inner game immensely even if you don't realize it. It helps your posture, your movement, and gives you a great feeling

TheBruno · 2012-01-27T19:29:16+00:00

They think I am doing it to meet women and now that we're dating they always say I can stop exercising now. Then they always worry that I am judging them because they don't exercise, which I don't until they mention it. I offer to work out with them and train them but I've never met a woman that was serious about working out. They just do the minimum so they can think "good start, at least I made the effort."

A number of them have changed their diets once we started dating but that gave them license to do less in other areas- less exercise or they can drink more.

meowingtonphd · 2012-01-28T00:40:16+00:00

I'm 6' and 190, kind of overweight (by a few pounds, not much), but a year ago I was hitting the gym hard... I was gaining muscle, looking better but it was so toxic for me. After 4 months I had gained probably 15 pounds of muscle or so, and like some other guy said, I would fuel my gym through rejection/failure, for example if a girl wasn't interested I was 100% sure it was because of my looks (this was before PUA lifestyle), so after a while I took a break and have just been doing basic exercise to keep healthy, haven't lifted in a while but I've learned that women are really not as shallow as most men, which I had always thought was the OPPOSITE. I thought to get the 9's you had to be douche body 6 pack etc. when all it takes is the right shit to say, at the end of the day, if you can really make a woman laugh, feel good, keep her on her toes, be different etc. she'll find herself just as pleased in bed as if she was with a gym rat.

Bobsutan · 2012-01-28T02:53:38+00:00

Lose lots of weight, mainly the gut and slimming my face, helped a ton.

2012-01-28T03:13:47+00:00

Lost over 40 lbs in 11 months (currently 6'1"/166 lbs) and added some muscle. Very good results. Get laid more, feel WAY more confident, and just better about myself in general. I'd highly recommend it. I'd say going to the gym regularly is an integral part of pickup. You want to look your best and give yourself every advantage possible.

More girls act on physical attraction alone, without me doing much of anything. Rubbing all over me before I barely get a word out of my mouth and shit. It's nice, but a little weird. I once weighed 246 lbs years ago, and believe me, that sure as shit would've never happened then.

I've also noticed that bad blowouts almost never happen anymore. And also that negs work less well. If you're an average looking guy say something vaguely rude, that's one thing. If you're the best looking guy there (if I may flatter myself) saying something vaguely rude, a girl tends to take it a lot more seriously. "I'm not as good looking and this nice looking guy is making fun of me." So I've had to really tone that shit down.

Okay, enough self-stroking for now. :)

heckz · 2012-01-28T02:10:38+00:00

in the beginning I worked out alot and it helped my confidence, then I got busy and stopped and my a success rate didn't really change.

cwill2517 · 2012-01-27T19:38:30+00:00

As in working out none, I am 6ft 2in and 180 and nothing is likely to change that.

Clothes and skin care on the other hand can be huge.

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