So you've been into seduction for a few months now, maybe almost a year, and have done lots of approaches, maybe between five hundred to two thousand, yet you're not getting that many results. You feel tired, drained, burnt out, and you've made a post titled "Do you ever feel like seduction is just draining?"

Well, where did you learn seduction from? was it RSD or SimplePickup? was it someone who said just be yourself, or give value, get in state, get calibrated or be outcome independent. The truth of the matter is, if your conversation and attraction skills suck, it doesn't matter how awesome of an entertainer you are, how much value you're giving, and how much in state you are, you will eventually get BURNT OUT if you don't get results. Your self-efficacy (psychological term for your ability to take action) will DROP if you believe that the work and effort is not worth the outcome, and if the outcome is not easily attainable. This is one of the main causes of procrastination, and you subconsciously or consciously begin to think "why go out and approach, when you can do things that give you instant gratification and stimulus". Well do you want results? then fuck outcome independence, giving value, and learn the skills.

Mark Manson said, your lifestyle determine the quality of girls you get, your courage determines the number of girls you get, and your conversation skills determine how easily you get girls.

So where do you begin? attraction and conversation.

  • Read and study the Mystery M3 Model to understand how to attract, and the basic cycle of open to close.
  • Read some old school pick up guys like Juggler, Style, David DeAngelo and Ross Jefferies.
  • Read NLP books by John Grinder and Richard Bandler to learn how to build deep rapport and connect with girls.
  • Read parts of the sidebar that discuss attraction and conversation
  • Learn and apply how to attract and build rapport verbally

Most of all stop the HYPE, it doesn't matter if you're well dressed, feel good about yourself, and how outcome independent you are, if your conversational skills are superficial, and you are unable to build attraction, get into deep rapport, and get sexual, you are not going to get results, and if you're not getting results you're not actually picking up, you're no different than the rest of the guys who are approaching girls and getting blown out. By results I mean getting LAID and at least making out, phone numbers don't mean anything unless it leads to a getting laid or making out.

I wasted a lot of time with the hype, namely RSD, and all these feel good pseudo psychological words aren't going to get you results. Sure, they may make you feel good, raise your self-esteem a little, and drive you to take action, but after 5 months to a year, when you're thinking "I've done all these approaches, I did what they told me about being alpha and confident, but how come I've barely gotten any results", then yeah, of course you're going to be emotionally drained, and you've deluded yourself into thinking the outcome doesn't matter.

No outcome -> no results -> low self-efficacy -> emotionally drained -> procrastination/approach apathy.

Learn the skills, stop the hype.

Cheers.