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[–]puppy22 46 points47 points48 points 14 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I think you a few words there.
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I don't so.
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I have to off a smart phone.
[–]oppan 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha what a great joke
[–]Poueff 8 points9 points10 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Holy shit this is sooo true. Experienced it last saturday. Two set with a mate, and he was completely frozen, and the friend of my target looked bored (which is part of why I didn't manage to isolate) but shit did I get a ton of IOIs
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[–]011191 17 points18 points19 points 14 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Bingo. Not approaching women means putting your own fears ahead of the potentially good, fun times you might have with her.
Fear > fun with a girl? NOT ON MY FUCKING WATCH.
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[–]011191 15 points16 points17 points 14 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
That's it my man, that's it. As OP said, every girl is looking for that one guy to sweep her off her feet. Call it love, call it destiny, call it coincidence, call it Susan I don't give a flying fuck.
Point is girls are looking for you and here you are avoiding them, being afraid to say "Hi, my name's 011191, this is a long boring bus ride and I think it would be better for both of us if we just chatted for a bit, maybe have a few laughs."
[–]illusiveab 5 points6 points7 points 14 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I can remember going out and talking to girls I wasn't even attracted to just because I love making women smile. It's fun just to open girls, make them laugh, and expect nothing. Too many guys expect perfection and some suave-ass idea of seduction when it's really about laughs and natural attraction.
[–]011191 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. Lots of people need to forget that they have a goal (getting a f-close) in mind. Seduction is basically about have fun and creating sexual tension then seeing where it goes (In my humble opinion).
[–]illusiveab 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Because most dudes have this cognitive obsession with their own abilities, appearance, swag, whatever. I've been there. I won't lie though, when you "get there," there's something brilliant and exciting about being confident and looking into a beautiful woman's eyes and seeing that raw sexual tension and attraction build...dat feel.
[–]011191 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–]Xeonit7 points 14 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Im noticing this too. Many girls just wish that a guy will approach them, taking the "boredom" of the routines away from their lifes. We all like when someone start a good conversation with us, because we humans are "Social Animals". Nobody wants to take a bus to college/gym/etc and stay silent all the time during the trip. You can make a person happier with just a smile, imagine what you can make by sharing some of your time with them.
[–]theoctopuss 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is sound advice. Women love to talk, whether they admit it or not. The key is to keep an interesting topic without revealing too much about yourself. The most she should leave with after the first interaction is your name and the hope that you call her. If you manage to escalate on the first date, you either charmed her pants off or she wants that DIRTY DICK.
[–]Beast66 6 points7 points8 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Approaching SUCKS and everyone knows it. But does it suck bad enough that you're gonna pass up banging a hot girl because of it? No. For those who have trouble approaching, this mindset is absolutely excellent because as a Pua you're going to be better than probably any guy she's ever met.
[–]ilovemodok 3 points4 points5 points 14 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Any tips on some good topics to use when approaching. I always choke not being able to think of anything.
Anything other than "Hi" or "hello"? What would you say after that for example?
[–]Xeonit 2 points3 points4 points 14 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
This happened to me few hours ago:
I was in a bus for a short trip to the train station, and I noticed that a cute girl was reading an economics book. I really would have liked having more time, but in 5 minutes we were at the train station. Maybe I could have used that time better, but when I got off the bus I told her "Good study!" (I dont know if you say this in english, but in my language it has a friendly meaning). She immediately smiled, and thanked me. That smile. It made my day a little better, and my words probably had the same effect on her. :)
[–]ilovemodok 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Thanks, friend.
If anything, that is my go-to approach, the "on the spot observation". I'll say like, "Whoa, big book you have there" or something like that.
Are there any tips out there to fine-tune this technique? ie (ensure one sounds less creep) Avoiding "You have purdy gums" for example.
Also, any good lines to use for approaching? I really do appreciate the building the confidence from within and being "natural", but find a few lines may be a good springboard to get me in with a degree of auto-pilot. At least at first.
Honestly, I'm travelling alone in Vietnam right now and sometimes have a tough time even talking to guys just to hang out. Working on myself, but I have such anxiety with this stuff, I hate it. :(
[–]Xeonit 2 points3 points4 points 14 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
I understand, maybe it could be cultural differencies that make approaching in new countries harder. It happens very often, but just keep on trying. Usually I observe the ambient in which I am, you must be conscious of where you are and what you can/cant do.
About the approach lines, I dont think there are universal models, just look at the little things everyday life has to offer and many interesting details will come up!
Do you know if theres a pool in this city? I absolutely need to swim -> are you from here? -> start conversation These busses are always late, do you know when they will arrive? -> do you study in this city/are you here on vacation..
Do you know if theres a pool in this city? I absolutely need to swim -> are you from here? -> start conversation
These busses are always late, do you know when they will arrive? -> do you study in this city/are you here on vacation..
It really depends on the setting. I dont think you would say "Whoa, i totally need a new coat" during summer (joking :) ).
Observe and learn. I like doing this and its pretty interesting as an habit.
[–]ilovemodok 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hey, good stuff. I'll keep this in mind. Thanks.
[–]Xeonit 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're very welcome!
[–]Mr_Nitty 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Take the edge off with a beer or two and ease into it?
[–]ilovemodok 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good point. Beer's are only 40 to 60 cents here. I'd like to be able to approach substance free though, but maybe this is a good way to get started.
[–]theoctopuss 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Step 1) Establish eye contact. This should be done with EVERYONE, in ANY situation.
Step 2) Make your next move based on her reaction. Does she act shy, timid, flirty or unresponsive, mean, sad? If she appears to receive the offer to approach (that is pretty much what the eye contact thing does) then go for it. You don't need an interesting topic, you just need to talk smooth.
Step 3) Approach. Keep an inviting smile. You can figure out which smile is inviting by filming yourself talking to someone naturally.
Step 4) Greet. "Hey, I'm ____. What's your name?" is a basic one. You can always spice it a bit.
Step 5) Communicate. If you notice something about her, mention it. Don't compliment her like a white knight or something. You can tease her. By this time, you'll be scared shitless. Don't worry, just keep an easy smile. Try and keep this interaction shorter than 5 minutes, all you want to do is make an impression.
Step 6) Goodbyes. Act surprised when you look at the time, and say you have to do something. Don't tell her what it is if you don't actually have something to do. There's always a chance she'll be agressive and want to go with you. NEVER, EVER apologize for having to leave. In fact, don't apologize unless it's necessary.
This is a basic guideline to follow, depending on the situation.
[–]magicroot75 2 points3 points4 points 14 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
In my defense. I have approached probably 150 girls, and gotten one crappy date out of it. I have approached in malls, the beach, clubs, bars, restaurants, parking lots, fairs, colleges, and just about everywhere else. All I have to show for it is one shitty date that was a waste of my time, a few flakey numbers, and a few dances/grinds with random girls. I dress well, I come off forward, I even kino. What gives?
[–]mahalo1984 2 points3 points4 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Your first 200 times are practice.
[–]magicroot75 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am so close.
[–]magicroot75 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I think I converse too much. I've tried many different things, but in general my approaches lead into, "Who are you here with", "What things are you enjoying about your life right now", and other personal info questions like that. Then there is usually a long pause, which I comfortably hold, and either the girl tells me it was nice meeting me/us, or she simply lets us stand there until we leave without continuing the convo.
My personal analysis is that I need to be more forward and pull girls to do other shit. That I have not done because they usually seem not "into it" enough.
I've just gotten to this frustrating point where I'm like
"Yea, I can approach any girl I want, but there is little to no chance we do more than chat for a couple minutes."
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[–]magicroot75 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I've read everything on here. I know all the tricks, threading/stacking/asking open ended questions.
[–]magicroot75 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This will be happening soon! Most of the time they simply seem too mundane and close-free to be worth posting.
Record yourself giving a speech, having a conversation, or something. That will show how you truly act when nervous.
[–]Julianlopez420 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
as Creepy and Rapey as it sounds, I bow to your goofy ass.
[–]YouWontForgetMe89 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh god how unfair life, that all I can give you for that wonderful advice is an upvote.
[–]oderint_dum_metuant 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I like this mentality " I sure hope she knows what to talk about because I sure don't ". It pushes you in the right direction by helping you let go of the belief that its all on YOU to make the interaction interesting.
Precisely.
[–]2nd_class_citizen 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I mostly agree with what you said, except for this part:
I do get rejections, but I know its not my fault. That girl either is not attracted to me for reasons I can't change, or she's got commitments.
One should never dwell on a rejection but always thinking about how you could improve yourself (mentally, physically) can certainly improve your chances with the next girl you approach. If you get rejected, the girl either has commitments or is not attracted to what you've presented to her. What you present to her is something that should be improving all the time.
Women are picky about men. Believe me, one girl would be attracted to the skinny guy type, while another will only go with muscular guys.
It's all about their preference. I know which girls to approach, simply because I look at them and notice their reactions. If they look and smile, look away then back, or something of that nature then I have an idea if she's willing to be approached.
Some women just can't be convinced.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
"oh, i think fucking that girl would be fun. i'm going to go see if she wants to fuck me."
[–]theoctopuss 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Don't focus on fucking right off the bat. Most women will see it as creepy. Just introduce yourself, make some small talk, SMILE, then say you have to go do something fun, then get the number and bounce.
The second you see her response from the first kino interaction is when you should make your decision on whether or not you should try and intercourse her.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
bro i know how to talk to/pick up girls, i was describing my general mindset upon seeing a girl i want to approach.
[+]somerandomgirl24 -7 points-6 points-5 points 14 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Creepy and rapey.
[–]aeon_strife 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Crêpey
[–]theoctopuss 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Simply because you're aware that I'm picking girls up. If I approached you in person, you would see it as much less creepy and "rapey".
Dolt.
[–]somerandomgirl24 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you approached me I'd pepperspray you.
If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all.
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