Some male friends unhappy since I took pill

wurding · 2014-11-15T16:47:09+00:00

You have an advantage by having a more realistic perspective. You can listen to a bluepill vent and choose not to react. You don't have to redpill other people. most of them won't thank you for it. Just because you know something, doesn;t mean you have to share it with everyone.

randarrow · 2014-11-15T17:35:32+00:00

RedPill != Asshole.

Good friends who respectfully need a place to air their issues and get advice should be welcome. Yeah, whiney losers who contribute nothing should be told to have a nice day. Teams are a mixture of people who pull their weight and those who don't, it's life. Don't be a bully, let the manager handle it. If the manager doesn't, and doesn't explain why, look for a new job.

Jobs, friends, towns, should be nexted just like chicks who cause trouble and drag you down. At a certain point though, people may find that the problem isn't everyone else and that they have work to do.

People dragging you down becomes more serious shit-testing as you transition. Eventually, they will either stop except for occasional shit-tests or you need to move on. Some people dealt with my still minor transition, others didn't. No sweat off of my balls.

Our focus is on ourselves, not everyone else.

648262 · 2014-11-15T17:31:39+00:00

Here is a tip: Don't speak your mind around them. Let them do their thing. if they ask you directly for advice; give it. Other than that? Let it slide.

As someone smart once said: Think as you like, but behave like others.

-Law 38, 48 Laws of Power

vandaalen · 2014-11-15T18:21:34+00:00

Here's the thing: Listen to their problems, and then ask them if they want your opinion and your help about it, but also tell them that they might not like it. Proceed from there as requested.

It's not your task to heal the world, and most people aren't really interested in help, but just need a place to vent. Fat people know that they are fat, ugly people know that they are ugly and pussies know they are pussies. There's no point in pointing it out to them and I think we both agree that it also isn't helpful.

Keep the urge to missionize under control. You will know when people are ready for the journey. You cannot force knowledge onto somebody.

Listen to them, or tell them that you are not interested in it. Live with any of the arising consequences.

The latter example is not smart. You run the risk of being branded as a self-righteous and narcissistic asshole, rather than somebody doing it for the team. Read the 48 laws of power.

ECoast_Man · 2014-11-15T17:12:41+00:00

Sometimes they improve, sometimes not.

Most men I know bond by talking shit to each other. But bear in mind, having a solid social circle is essential in life. Give advice, but don't alienate yourself. Pretty much all my friends are BP as all fuck, and I don't give a shit, because they're a trustworthy, reliable group. This is rarer and rarer to find everyday. I let them vent, give solid advice, and we go grab a pint. Nothing wrong with it.

Be careful at work, your colleagues are like your family, in that you don't get to choose them a lot of the time. Keep doing what you're doing but don't be a complete ass.

EDIT: Also remember the first rule of fight club with TRP. Don't disclose this openly, if thats what you're planning.

kingofpoplives · 2014-11-15T19:30:27+00:00

There is an art to criticizing people so that it sinks in but doesn't trigger hostility. You just need to work more on developing this skill.

FinnianWhitefir · 2014-11-15T20:58:01+00:00

When I improved my life a lot, I found that I chose to be around different types of people. I.E. I used to always pick ladies who were disconnected, really unemotional, uninspired, etc. Today they all seem boring and worthless to me, while previously good exciting ladies seemed scary and too outgoing.

So just saying, you likely picked to be around guys who were not top-notch and are used to doing things like sitting around complaining because that felt good to you. Now you recognize that it's not good and you're going to choose to be around men who don't do that. Your tastes in people have changed, because your views on what is good to do in life has changed.

favours_of_the_moon · 2014-11-15T21:14:47+00:00

It's always better to get it out than to let it simmer.

You need to say what needs to be said, then sometimes hear what needs to be heard. That way, you're both better off.

RK-no · 2014-11-15T21:54:35+00:00

Heh, my buddies congratulate themselves on taking a girl home and then not sleeping with her, saying that's an accomplishment. They don't like it so much when I tell them if your dick isn't wet, it doesn't count.

oldredder · 2014-11-16T06:46:36+00:00

no problems here. My male friends have mostly been red-pill since before the Matrix even came out. A couple not but still motivated to figure things out & change it all, just unsure how to proceed.

Generally if a person feels the world owes them a favour, if a person feels your role in their life is an unpaid support role for advising/fixing/paying, that person will only get angry when it's cut off, and angrier as the dependency grows, and it only grows if you encourage it.

So... don't.

As for work, no one should be able to get credit for work you did but you so you have to stick to that. Glad you are.

walawalawa · 2014-11-16T13:09:07+00:00

This happens to me a lot with people who see my successes after taking the Red Pill and are out to undermine them. Often it's gossip, or sometimes they'll actively try to undermine a project, make snide comments or otherwise try to undermine my confidence. It's a struggle to ignore them or keep them at arm's length while still maintaining some type of relationship with them in a professional manner. I call people out for their crap...and often they try to rally their friends around them to support their mistake or bad behavior or whatever. I'm still struggling with this to find a solution. Lately I've become more selective in the friends I keep and the advice I give.

[deleted] · 2014-11-15T21:48:43+00:00

In order to rise you have to drop dead weight.

Title	Some male friends unhappy since I took pill
Author	newlifeasredpill
Upvotes	15
Comments	31
Date	November 15, 2014 4:30 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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