Are we becoming TheBroPill?

Dreamtrain · 2014-05-02T16:50:10+00:00

You might feel an urge to introduce RP to guys still under the illusion because you look at them and you're reminded of the times you were just like them, struggled to be disney's prince just like them and cried like a little girl due to bullshit that you allowed women to stir on you just like them. But not everyone is ready to accept your words, I had several RP role-models in front of me in the past years, even shared the same roof with them, from shit tests to maintaining frame, I was an spectator to these scenarios with my own eyes and ears that parallel things I've read and internalized in this sub and at the time I still held on to my ideals until a certain event in my life was the drop that spilled the glass then I was ready for answers and when someone from another subreddit mentioned this sub and I came and read the stuff in the side bar, THEN it all made sense.

monsieurhire2 · 2014-05-02T16:22:12+00:00

No, you made a good point there. I have the same thoughts every time I try to give some advice to some hapless schmuck.

averagecycle · 2014-05-02T18:10:56+00:00

Actions speak louder than words. If your bros see you pulling in women like there's no tomorrow while their old lady is bitching that she wants to go to burger king and how he "isn't supportive enough", they will take an interest in it.

QQ_L2P · 2014-05-02T18:17:29+00:00

Can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. Much like /r/PurplePillDebate, it's an exercise in how much effort you can waste before deciding to walk away.

veggie_girl · 2014-05-02T19:25:54+00:00

"The Matrix is a system, bilbu. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."

"Unfortunately, no one can be told what theredpill is. You have to experience it for yourself."

loin_fruit · 2014-05-02T16:25:13+00:00

Unfortunately, the countless times that I have tried to help friends out, they don't believe me. They'll gladly listen, yes. But they would rather stick with what they already know and do that instead of changing themselves.

phoenix_fromtheashes · 2014-05-02T17:28:03+00:00

I would actually like to get help structuring my life TRP whise.

icanteventhecat · 2014-05-02T19:02:53+00:00

Honestly, it's all about packaging and presentation. I have had good success bringing up these concepts to friends and family including quite a few women.

The key is, don't debate: discuss instead. The moment you go on the offensive, people get extremely defensive, the mood sours, and people get angry at your shit. Don't directly attack people's beliefs, not matter how stupid they are. This is why feminists piss you off.

Instead of saying, "You got friendzoned because you're beta. You need to lift and be alpha. Women are hypergamous by nature...blah blah blah...," you should say something like, "you're angry you got friendzoned? Why do you think that happened? Could it be because...? I suggest doing..."

Don't use buzzwords like "hypergamy" and "solipsism." Don't reduce people to walking cells run by hormones even if it's true. That's how you offend people. That's another way feminists alienate men (e.g., rape culture and patriarchy).

Don't trash talk women or "BP" men like they're inferior/idiots. They're people too. They're sometimes your friends and family. People with misguided beliefs are not necessarily bad people. Again, another reason why feminism pisses men off.

Doing this, I even helped a good friend (typical BP) to ditch a parasitic woman, stop acting like a doormat, and step up his game, greatly improving his overall outlook on life. At first, I just tried to reiterate what a cunt she was and that he should quit being a wimp and ditch her. But he pedastalized her, so this made him quite upset. When I turned the focus on him, I got him to question why he pedastalized her and did the things he did. Then he realized his mistakes, then he started to correct them.

isthatyourdaughter · 2014-05-02T17:13:54+00:00

"No More Mr. Nice Guy."

It's TRP-Lite. If you want to help the betas in the wild, tell them to check it out. Actual redpill is way too strong for somebody who isn't ready.

mr_throwz · 2014-05-02T18:56:58+00:00

If it's on reddit, who gives a fuck.

Get the conversation going. Even if people are hating on redpill, it gets the name out there. People who have never heard of redpill will read this sub. Here's the thing:

Bluepill beta bitches who aren't going to swallow the red pill will be reinforced in their bluepill beta bitchness. This is good for those who are unplugged.

Some people will swallow the red pill and unplug. This is good for those who are unplugged because it means more discussion - I also see it as another step on the path to social change - the more men who unplug, the better for society - eventually we will have to be contended with.

_trp · 2014-05-02T20:09:09+00:00

I think TRP can not be taught cold turkey. I think fundamentally the general narrative in society is so thick with misinformation that what to us is logical, seems irrational to most. No bluepillers are going to come to TRP, reading a post or listen to your reasoning and just believe what is being said, because without experiencing it, it feels as though it is a load of bullshit. If you've never seen a girl in a 'happy long-term' BP relationship get fucked inside an hour by some random guy she just met, why would you believe it? There is no reason to believe that it is how the world is. It is uncomfortable and it doesn't sound realistic when compared to the mainstream narrative. "Only sluts do that kind of stuff anyway."

Trying to convince bluepillers is a fool's errand. There has to be a catalyst, it will always take that punch in the gut first, because we are too comfortable to be troubled by the truth without it.

TRPsubmitter · 2014-05-03T00:51:48+00:00

Great post.

I posted a thread a week ago on the increase in "broknighting" here with regards to cuckolding, cheating, unicorns, etc.

The thread was invaded by redpill broknights pontificating on Brocode, saying how a LTR with a special woman they can share their emotions with is the goal. Just pathetic.

CrazyHorseInvincible · 2014-05-02T19:44:19+00:00

This is borderline concern trolling. I will allow it to remain unless it gets more reports, but general advice should be tactical and amoral in nature.

johnnight · 2014-05-02T23:52:28+00:00

There is only one guy I was able to talk about RP and it's only because he already swallowed it on his own. Kind of Dark Triad, disillusioned with women through his own experience. I just confirmed what he observed in real life. He was ready.

Invalidity · 2014-05-02T16:29:55+00:00

Nobody is telling you to do anything here. Well maybe a handful of people. But ultimately, I am only telling you my motivations for what I do, and what I hope to achieve.

I'd rather tell you what I plan to do, than to be the one to say, "You're wrong! You shouldn't tell others what to do!"

By sharing my thoughts on this subreddit, I'm essentially trying to influence others. I don't post replies on topics here with the mindset that people who come here are hopeless, and I'm not of the belief that everyone who comes here is ready to accept the information presented to them.

All I know is that I will do what I do, and whether or not somebody is repulsed by it or accepts what I have to share, it makes no difference.

RPSavant · 2014-05-02T18:40:48+00:00

I disagree.

If only a few percent of readers in other subs catches on to the theme of a RP response then that is good news because the more men who put their foot down with bad behavior the more women will behave.

bilbuthehobbit · 2014-05-02T20:36:50+00:00

Inspire through your actions. End of story. Preaching is for hypocrites, idiots, and pedophiles. This is not a redpill phenom. This is a tragic flaw for MANY MANY people. Everyone and I mean EVERYONE thinks they are right, even us. But one thing is for sure, everyone here once helped too much. We all loved and bluepilled to oblivion. I am telling you all to stop fucking helping others when they don't help themselves. How much more simple can it be?

LastRevision · 2014-05-02T20:06:48+00:00

Can confirm. I have a faux alpha friend who is actually very deeply blue pill and I showed him TRP- his take away was the angry @ women stuff without any of the self-improvement content, which is absolutely necessary for becoming a proper red pill man. Sigh, I'm not going to bother anymore.

ohsweetword · 2014-05-03T02:34:30+00:00

If you can't handle harsh truths about your life, this isn't the place for you.

Nobody should coddle anybody here. We're not here to appease feels or be politically correct. We're here to find out what it means to be a man and navigate the shit storm that IS feminism.

major_tom38 · 2014-05-02T19:22:05+00:00

I agree. You guys aren't wrong, you're just assholes.

Title	Are we becoming TheBroPill?
Author	bilbuthehobbit
Upvotes	37
Comments	70
Date	May 2, 2014 4:20 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/24jv5z/are_we_becoming_thebropill/
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