I think they should be avoided because they make a lot of guys worse.

Some modern dating gurus might have been influenced to start approaching a lot because of old school pick-up. People like Mark Manson, James Marshall, etc, took this area of their life more seriously because of it. Then they realized it wasn't the most effective way and denounced it, and told guys not to follow it.

Then they created their own philosophy, which can be called the second wave of pick-up. So I'm not saying the first wave was completely useless. It played a role.

One dating coach in my city (he's a small coach, not YouTube famous), who teaches self-development and improvement as the way to attract girls, said he started out with Mystery Method, then saw it had problems so stopped using it and switched to natural game. I assume it's the same with other dating coaches (that started learning to communicate with girls in the 2000 to 2010 period), they were inspired to take action by old school pick-up. Their action led to their epiphanies, which created the new movement.

And these coaches then influenced younger dating coaches who don't study old school pick-up, which I think is good. I once spoke on Facebook to a dating coach who was 22 years old and had studied from other dating coaches, and he didn't know what 'The Game' or Mystery Method was. I also saw a video by Kezia Noble a few weeks ago, where she said most of her students had never heard of 'The Game' and she called it a new generation.

I feel the old movement is being forgotten about, and I think that's good.

Like how the horse carriage (with wheels) was created before the car, and that may have helped inspire the creation of the car (with wheels). But we wouldn't use a horse carriage today. We have cars, trucks, etc. I realize this wasn't the best example, it's just something I thought of in the moment. But it illustrates my point. When a stepping stone has played its role, there is no point carrying it around anymore.

For those who claim old school doesn't make every guy worse, I want to say that it makes enough guys worse that it justifies being avoided. Strauss himself wrote about this in The Game, writing that article on 'social robots', and in his book points out that a lot of the guys didn't even spend time with girls, and some guys had mental breakdowns. The entire book was a warning not to follow that road, and Strauss concluded the book by leaving the community and wrote of all the others who left.

I made this post because I worry about some new guys who will study the old stuff, not realizing things have evolved and there are better ways. There are much better books like 'Models' by Mark Manson, '3% Man' by Corey Wayne, 'As You Are' by Nick Sparks, etc.

The old stuff are not used anymore and being forgotten for a reason.