Anyone not find this stuff just draining?

Boosteddreamer · 2024-05-08T15:47:32+00:00

If you don’t enjoy talking and hanging out with these girls what’s the point? If your not having fun dealing with these girls find a different one, or if it’s the same issues every time it’s probably you.

Also you’re going to continue to have issues if you can’t trust anyone. Don’t just blindly believe everything, but if you can’t trust them you’ll start to look for and create problems that don’t exist.

Whether this girl is sick or not is kind of irrelevant, you getting frustrated because she’s not around is guaranteed to make her want to pull away. She’ll either get better in a few days and reach out or start to pull away, wondering if she’s lying doesn’t change anything.

mjornir · 2024-05-08T16:54:49+00:00

I don’t feel like dealing with the the rest of your points rn but I can tell you a flower on the first date is too much

AnAIAteMyBaby · 2024-05-08T17:41:46+00:00

Are you getting anywhere physical with any of these girls? Normally you'd expect to sleep with a girl after going on "a good amount of dates", I appreciate that you and the girls are young but a lack of physicality after several dates is going to cause the girl to get bored.

president_at_gmails · 2024-05-08T22:10:50+00:00

Your "dialect" is just off. You play the romantic: buying flowers, going on multiple dates before getting sexual, generally clean cut and innocent. It's more common (basically the expectation) to try and get the girl to your place so you can chill & fuck.

bad_throwing_away · 2024-05-08T22:26:42+00:00

You might be too nice for your age range. Totally guessing here but 18 year olds might want fun and wild and not nice romantic

eablokker · 2024-05-08T22:27:40+00:00

You seemed to show zero concern about her being sick. Oh well let me know when you’re free? How about oh no I hope you feel better, can I get you anything? I’ll text you in a few days to see how you’re feeling.

Never say let me know when you’re free. Instead let them know when YOU are free. Say ok I’m free next week on this and this day, or I’m free all next week. I have plans to do something fun next week, hope you’re feeling well enough by then to come with.

Assuming that they are lying about being sick is really bad. You should be forgiving of their excuses at least once or twice. Unless they have a reputation among your friends of making up excuses or they cancelled on you several times in a row.

I think people say you’re nice because you’re being boring, not because you’re too nice. It’s very attractive to be kind to people. But that can’t be the only aspect of your personality. You have to have more going on like being funny, being daring, being controversial, being a prankster, telling dirty jokes, singing dirty songs, asking deep questions. Basically, being fun and interesting. That is much more exciting.

DaygameCode · 2024-05-08T23:53:53+00:00

In my experience, if a guy shows a girl he wants a committed relationship, the woman is usually gonna be turned off.

With women it’s better to act like you are a catch, which requires you to not seek a relationship. Instead she needs to feel as if she has to convince you to date her exclusive, she needs to feel like she is the one chasing a relationship with the guy. And a woman won’t do that if she feels the guy is already seeking a relationship before she even put a serious effort to persuade the guy to want one.

In other words, the committed monogamous relationship must be the woman’s idea, not the guy’s idea, and when the guy reverses that role and acts like he is the one trying to convince the woman to enter an exclusive relationship, that usually makes women lose interest.

In order to get a girlfriend, you must not make a woman believe you want one.

Elbynerual · 2024-05-09T08:54:56+00:00

If step 3 is normal for you, your conversation skills are lacking. And you aren't supposed to be talking that much. Texting is for setting up dates and getting together.

You're 18, and you think you have a mustache and goatee. You don't. Unless you're the hairy-est kid on this side of the Atlantic Ocean, your facial hair is an absolute joke, and it makes people cringe. I'm sure you're proud of it, but it's not full facial hair yet, and it looks ridiculous. At best, it looks like you need to wipe the area around your mouth with a wet wipe. Shave that shit. Wait til you're at least 23 to try again.

You think you're cute with this, but it's not. Your odds are going to be much higher. Trust all of us who have been in your shoes.

Now go read the FAQ on this sub, then read the 10 highest rated posts. Then get back out there. You're far too young to be giving up so soon. If you think this is exhausting, just wait til you start doing your own taxes.

epimpstyle · 2024-05-09T21:48:46+00:00

You need help, but you give answers to your questions.... people with a personality like yours, won't accept new ideas. There is no way to heal by listening to others, you will solve everything yourself. How can I tell you that giving roses is not wrong and the concept of "nice guy" is a stupid thing? It is not possible, you are already indoctrinated with all kinds of concepts...

EDIT: Did you know that every woman is "sick" about one week a month?

RestingBitchFace_1 · 2024-05-08T14:52:15+00:00

Looking for love as a man in this day and age is setting yourself to be used.

Your goal should be 100% fun and using their tactics against them : she doesn't talk ? ghost, she isn't well dressed? ghost, she doesn't look good? ghost, she plays stupid f games? ghost, she's need ? ghost, she has a name that you don't like ? ghost or fuck then ghost.

Also, very important. If she says shit you don't like during the date, set up and leave in the middle of that shit.

Don't ever go to expenise dates for the first 4 dates at least. Activities should be your priorities, then come coffee dates. Don't ever go out with a bitch who doesn't accept this.

Being honest in dating is setting yourself up for failure as a man.

Wing_Inevitable · 2024-05-08T17:40:35+00:00

Anyone not find this stuff just draining?

Edit : doesn’t qualifies for women 101

So teens 101 I will be your teacher .

my excuse for starting late.

I know people that started at 50 what are you talking about Late.

talking stages.

What is a talking stage ?

You kids and your modern words .

Stages: 1. Get close with the girl 2. Go on a good amount of dates. 3. She starts being distant (aka the start of the ghosting) 4. I give the same energy back. 5. Ghosted

So a talking stage is wast time and get ghosted . got you .

Showing too much affection.

Not a bad thing AFTER SEX . Most modern women consider it an attempt at bribery to sleep with you so I would avoid it .

she liked it, in fact she called her friend on facetime (She told her friend i went home so i was just listening in on the conversation) and She told her friend i got her flowers, to which her friend said "Thats so romantic"? -

She doesn’t like it . She is showing off there is a difference

Translation from girl : “OMG (name) Look at how wanted I’m random dude 74 went out of his way to buy me flowers . I’m so sexy “

You don’t matter in this .

People think im "Cute".

That is an insult for a woman to call you” cute “ it is like a puppy - pretty and not at all a threat .

They would pet a puppy but they will not fuck one .

If this happens a lot you come off as NON threatening I would fix that ( usually something to do with body language )

This is largely out of my control. I have a moustache, and a goatee, but i still get called cute.

BODY LANGUAGE and SUB COMMUNICATIONS .

People think im "Nice".

Ahhhhhh. What do you want here you know this is a problem . Stop letting people walk over you .

Nice = “He let’s me walk all over him”

im a nice person by nature.

I’m nice too . I just don’t let people walk all over me and I don’t give people shit that they haven’t earned . So people don’t call me nice .

Im not a "Nice guy". I dont think im owed kindness, and i never expect it.

Nice guy sure . But you do go out of your way to do good .

When a resource is free (in this case you being nice) no one will value it . Because it has no value IT IS FREE

Or a gentlemen - You know the guys that died out because they got no pussy .

This could be the girls im texting.

I think it is you .

My other hypothesis is that im simply texting hoes.

“I’m not a nice guy - They are text hoes “

It is you . We all have been you . You need to fix yourself first - so blame yourself .

Pushing things forward is your job . Deal with it .

talking stages

I don’t know what this means so I can’t tell you how to fix it .

Most people here (that know shit) are adults use adult words .

I cut her off because i just didnt think itd last

Self rejection .

and the other she cut me off because she wanted to get with my mate.

Is he nice ? Or cute ?

Or is he a bit rough and Hot ?

I dont trust people.

Again you are going against being just “nice “ .

I cannot think of 1 person other than my mother that i trust.

And the hard truth is that is a problem .

Mothers in general will push you to being a good guy (as in docile ,not as in mr perfect )

For them you are beautiful so they think you acting this way will attract women (It won’t) .

I would much prefer it if you listen to a male figure , you might not like what they say but it will be mostly correct .

I dont know if this is reflected on how i text/interact with people.

I will quote you : “ People think I’m “Nice”and “cute”

Yea it does .

Where is your dad ? (If your parents are divorced think about this - WHY did they get together in the first place ?)

My current talking stage

I presume that is a girl .

i had a plan to go to her house (Today) but the last 2 or so days she mentioned shes sick,

Girl translation :“I don’t want to sleep with him . So I will make an excuse”

“and her mother wont let me over if shes sick. “

Not what she said to your mate

Now, i dont know if a normal person would believe this, but i dont.

Well . Maybe (normal people tend to get what they can so )

I see this as Stage:3 of ghosting.

I see this as “he needs to work more for me , maybe buy me a house or gravel publicly” .

I replied with something like "right" "well" "let me know when youre free" and she said "I will after im not sick". Thing is i frankly dont believe her.

I do I just don’t think you will be invited to her house (or she will enter yours )

In conclusion. I want a partner, i dont want the headache of going through this cycle again and again.

Welcome to life . This will keep happening no matter what . And your mom ain’t helping you .

Fix the reasons (plural ) why this is happening .

I will quote one of my favourite movies “ You are mister right , just not mister right now” - My best-friends girl

EVEN if i get into a relationship, this cycle is still persistent from what i can see.

Probably . You are in the position of chasing (the PUA term ) so this will be something you will do for the rest of your life IF you get a girl this way .

Kobe_curry24 · 2024-05-09T04:19:59+00:00

Dude your 18 Lmfaoooo you should be figuring out what your passion is not woman , get a hobby play a sport learn to dance learn a new language are you building value or you just want pussy like 10 billion men C’mon Bruv matter fact don’t come back to this sub until you find a passion or a subject or a language that you can study ,

Title	Anyone not find this stuff just draining?
Author	SplitNo492
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Date	May 8, 2024 2:45 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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