Does being sexually-submissive make MRP not work?

Tyred_Biggums · 2024-06-16T00:15:45+00:00

Approved. This is an interesting askMRP compared to the usual retarded questions.

Praexology · 2024-06-16T03:49:10+00:00

I think there is a valuable distinction between bedroom activities and lifestyle. Some guys here might say that it needs to be seamless - which would mean you'd be fucked as a de facto matter of sexual principal, but I'm not convinced. There are lots of different women into lots of different things.

The problem you'll face is that your wife/gf will very likely struggle at one point to delineate between "my bf is a submissive little twerp that better beg his mommy for cummies" and "can I truly trust this man to make decisions where and when it counts, or will I always have to parent him?"

Women hate holding sharp accountability. It's one thing to know they could have done better, it's another thing entirely to know they didn't size up to the task and failed horribly. Being the one who has to take responsibility for a family runs you into just that. An experience that will likely just embitter her towards you.

So you will probably have to jump through extra hoops in order to make sure just because she is wearing the pants in the bedroom, that she doesn't also have to bear the responsibility of failure in the nonsexual aspects of your life.

Now go and get your head squashed by a muscular doms fat thighs you dirty dog.

TheNattyJew · 2024-06-16T01:50:37+00:00

You are playing against the natural order of things where men take the lead and the woman follows. Although, there are dominant women out there who would enjoy this kind of setup, there aren't a lot of them (10-15% of women maybe). So you are going to have to choose your woman very carefully. Most women are either submissive or somewhat egalitarian. Asking one of these women to take the dominant role will be asking a lot of them. They will be naturally inclined to lose attraction to a man who doesn't take the lead in the bedroom.

Assuming you don't get with a dominant woman, your best bet is to be an absolute boss outside of the bedroom. Take the lead in all other aspects of home life and segregate your submissiveness to the bedroom. With the right woman you might be able to pull this off. But again, it's a high risk thing to try.

cre4mpuffmyf4ce · 2024-06-16T04:08:59+00:00

IMO your post is too vague to give you a good answer.

“Sexually submissive” means slightly different things to different people and that subtlety is important here. Also what do you mean by making MRP “not work.” Some things in MRP “work” whether you want them to or not. Attraction is non negotiable. Women have an abundance of dating options compared to men, and any one with an abundance of options tends to be picky and choose the best, I.e. hypergamy. Our answers can only be as specific as your question and your question was pretty vague.

Anyways. Yeah I think being sexually submissive means MRP is incompatible with your strategy. You’d be looking for a different strategy to attract a dominant female partner who wants a submissive man. Reminds me of the femaleledrelationships sub.

FutileFighter · 2024-06-16T12:27:57+00:00

6’0” - 225 lbs - 10% bf - “not in great shape, but returning to my roots and hitting the gym hard.”

Did you mean 30% body fat?

If you can’t be honest with yourself, no one can help you.

NoMoreMrNiceJay · 2024-06-16T10:29:26+00:00

I've seen "Alpha subs" if you will that are in the lifestyle. They have pretty much all the qualities of what is described as 'alpha' or 'dom'. Essentially, they could be dom/alpha if they wanted but choose not to.

When it's a genuine submissive and not based in "trauma" anxiety, fear, etc, insert whatever excuse to be a woman. If limited to the bedroom/club, I have nothing but respect for those guys.

2wo2wo3hree · 2024-06-16T11:57:43+00:00

I’m not saying it can’t be done, but it definitely doesn’t help. It’s like choosing to run a marathon in high heels.

Oscar Eriksen from the UK holds the record for the fastest marathon in high heels by a man, finishing in 5 hours, 13 minutes, and 27 seconds. Could you imagine how much faster and painless it could have been if he had the right footwear?

fix-the-man · 2024-06-16T15:58:30+00:00

I'd be curious what MRP "working" looks like to you. What exactly is it that you are wanting? If you are submissive, and your wife is dominant, or at least a switch, what's the problem?

InChargeMan · 2024-06-17T15:22:04+00:00

225lb 10% bf........I'd tell you go to fuck yourself, but since you're a bottom, idk, maybe ask your wife to peg you.

Aubrey_D_Graham · 2024-06-17T19:51:07+00:00

You're asking your wife to dominate you sexually. Maybe, but think about how that would that affect her as a wife, mother, and lover? You think such a woman wouldn't try to dominate you in other aspects of your life?

Kevlar__Soul · 2024-06-18T02:33:49+00:00

You can do what ever the hell you want in the bed room.

Fixing your fitness, covert contracts, and frame control will improve your relationship. Most men find that their women respond well to dominate men in the bed. Which is why it tough as the standard. However that doesn’t means it the only way to have sex or you won’t make progress.

castironskilletset · 2024-06-16T16:52:49+00:00

Even at the best shape of my life many years ago (6'0", 225lb., 10% BF) I had no interest in being sexually dominant or even having vanilla egalitarian sex.

where do you get the idea that being ripped will somehow make you want to dominate women in bed? Also I assume you were not natty

Am I fighting a losing battle?

If your battle is to be healthy, muscular and attractive then you are gonna win

Why are you here OP?

On side note, However hard I try, I am not able to articulate it well enough so what is gonna follow is a garbage dump of vomit, days old bread, spoiled meat, and sewer rats. See if you can figure out what I am trying to say because I honestly cant. So here we go.

Men come here because they are struggling in some way, Mostly sex life is not good with their wives. So they are told that they are not getting the sex they want because they are unattractive but here is a game plan to get attractive. So far so simple BUT what this subreddit is "selling" is hope.

Men who comes here harbor a deep rooted desire. A desire for their wife to fuck them, to desire them. So men take whats promised here, "if you are willing to do that work, you can become more attractive" as "if I do this MRP thing right, my wife will fuck me". They fool themselves into thinking that MRP is the light to end of the dark tunnel they have been trapped in so long. Then obsession with theories start. Because if there is a general framework or ideology that they can rely on to make their wives fuck them, then they feel safe and comfortable. They think there are answers to all there problems here.

It takes many forms, some are obsessed with reading books because they think the next book will have answer, (https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/wxf178/read_a_fucking_book/), some are obsessed with being masculine because they think being masculine is the answer. If they are faced by the prospect of this place not having answer, they feel very anxious.

If you are trying to become a better bluepiller using redpill then you are gonna lose.

So lets see, women are attracted to alphas, alphas doesnt give a second of his headspace into thinking whether he is right in not wanting to dominate his wife is bed. Because he has lot of options and he does not have oneitis. He is not trying to get a reaction out of his wife, he is outcome independent.

So question remains, are most people here just trying to become a better bluepiller. Is the desire for validation so strong and ingrained into your psyche that even when u become redpilled, you still want to impress that bluepiller that resides in your heart. Or are we just social creatures that seek comfort by being validated by our social group.

How unreachable is the ideal of an alpha who really do not give a shit? Well in sexual terms, its very possible but you then just shift that need for validation onto other things, gym, work, OYS.

But then how do you deal with the inconguency that arises from that. You dont, you just accept that incongruency as a part of your life and in a way that incongruecy becomes a part of your life. Like a design flaw that was just accepted and then became an integral part of the objects identity.

Ideals are not meant to be achieved, defects are part of human experience, a sign of unrelenting march of entropy towards chaos. Its not about trying to control the chaos, its not about not giving the shit about chaos, it is about appreciating the beauty of chaos. Not having every answer is the whole fucking point of life, you just have to gather enough courage to accept it.

ixdtechs · 2024-08-27T11:54:07+00:00

This happens to husbands who’ve let their wives peg them. I can’t tell you how many wives that have told me their ex husbands liked it in the ass and in retrospect they thought it was weird.

Put a lid on that submissive shit or get a side chick that’s cool with all that.

Ragnardanneskjunior · 2024-06-16T21:12:31+00:00

Well if you are not trolling and don't get me wrong, I think you are trolling. Your wife is boring to you and it is easier to just go along with her ego stroking and your degradation because being dominant is too much work for the same ol' pussy. The only way to know is to put yourself into a catch and release situation where there are women that are actually going to get the juices flowing. If you are being dominated by your wife in the bedroom then that dynamic is going to continually play out in your home life as well so MRP is probably not for you because you are a pussy.

Title	Does being sexually-submissive make MRP not work?
Author	KennethColeHaan
Upvotes	19
Comments	15
Date	June 15, 2024 11:25 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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