What research and activism are Men's Rights groups currently engaged in?

iainmf · 2025-02-23T18:10:04+00:00

This is a great post, but I removed it because we don't allow linking to or naming other subreddits. If you edit your post I will restore it.

Men_And_The_Election · 2025-02-23T01:39:08+00:00

NCFM is suing the state of California because they spend millions on a commission for women and girls, and nothing on men and boys.

They have also sued in the past regarding the all male draft

Dr Mark Perry and Truly Equal filing title IX complaints and programs and scholarships that exclude males in higher ed, and there are thousands of such cases. All see Title IX for All for more on title IX work and research.

GIBM and AIBM conducting research on male issues.

DAVIA supporting male victims of domestic violence, and International Council on Boy and Men working on getting UN to recognize male issues.

There’s a few for starters.

BEEZY086 · 2025-02-23T00:47:13+00:00

It's not like a person would have to look that far or hard to find research. Whether on this sub or a google search. The fact of the matter is that most feminists can't be bothered to even enlighten themselves because the truth is that they dont want to. Most feminsts are too busy hating anything to do with mens rights that they are intentionally ignorant. The biggest thing holding back mens rights is feminists and thier dumbass asumptions about mens rights.

Sure, there is a fair bit of complaining from men who are realizing that things are not fair. This sub is not strictly dedicated to research and facts. There are some posts that are just people conplaining. But to pretend like any of those feminist subs dont have an equivalent amount of complaining is just delusional.

There are plenty of women and feminists who do come through the sub and make posts within. Most of the time, you can tell who actually comes in with an open mind ready to learn and who comes here just to troll.

RoryTate · 2025-02-23T02:24:55+00:00

If this is not some bad faith "gotcha" question, then you will be happy to learn that /u/thetinmenblog just made a post about some great research in the UK his community made happen around male suicide just in the last few weeks. The discussion he had with the researcher who oversaw the project highlighted a number of follow-up questions that needed answering, but both of them noted the absence of a UK Minister for Men's Health and a complete lack of UK government funding to explore these issues surrounding men's mental health. And the same lack of support is true in every country around the world, unfortunately. Also, everyone making that professional-looking video donated their time and equipment, since male-focused research is forced to rely on private funding.

I – and many others on this sub – have shared independent research into many men's issues. A few examples of my contributions include a deep dive into a seminal paper on suicide that was the unfortunate ground zero for the urban myth that "men attempt suicide less than their counterparts" from five years ago, all the way to exploring data on the claim that circumcision would cut HIV rates in Africa in a post from 2 days ago. You will not find anything similar from "wominist" ideologues, either from named organizations and public figures, or from anonymous posters online. The man-hating credentials of their hateful ideology are well-deserved.

king_rootin_tootin · 2025-02-23T08:17:11+00:00

I've actually answered this question before and the response from feminists was hilarious:

https://1in6.org/trainings/research-on-male-survivors/

There. The largest organization for male victims of sexual violence, a group of people that many feminists insist don't exist or at least aren't worth talking about, does research into male survivors of SA and CSA.

The response from feminists? "They aren't a men's rights groups because all they are doing is advocating for men "

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Any time a men's organization does something positive, they stop being a men's organization to feminists, so what's really the point of asking this question?

EDIT

For the dumb, tired line "MRA's never help men,* there is also the story of Earl Silverman, a male survivor of domestic violence who started a shelter for men. He had to close it up because he received no support from the government or non-profits and literally nobody non-profit world would even consider helping a shelter for men. He did everything he could to help men and ran into roadblock after roadblock.

Women's shelters meanwhile are fully funded by the government, and GOOD FOR THEM.

His story usually shuts feminists up: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/calgary-man-opened-first-shelter-abused-men-commits-200424711.html

Even when we do try to help other men, bullshit often gets into our way, brought to you by feminism

Local-Willingness784 · 2025-02-23T01:58:08+00:00

are feminists doing that research on good faith tho? and I think that guys argument (leaving aside the "oh, I cook and clean and women are so amazed that I'm not like the other stupid males") was that studies made on certain topics, like male victims of sexual assault, were authored by women with feminist ideology, but isn't it feminist ideology also against changing definitions of rape to not include men in it? like the deluth model? or if they use the "patriarchy" framework as a end all be all, from their hypothesis to their conclusions, and end up, I don't know, "blaming men for their own oppression" then why do I even want their fucking studies?

also I hate to say it richard reeves is kind of a small step in the right direction, even if he is a feminist apologist, aside from that I have also seen some interesting activism with r/TheTinMen and the title IX stuff, but yeah, no way in hell I'm depending on feminist for this, maybe they'll stop complaining about supposedly giving so much effort to men or being expected to when we reject them completely, tho I still respect women rights, I just don't think that modern feminism is that much about it.

Snoo_78037 · 2025-02-23T10:23:03+00:00

CAFÉ being run by Justin Trottier.

walterwallcarpet · 2025-02-23T04:21:10+00:00

Being married for a long time, have had ample opportunity to suspect that men and women exist in slightly different realities, honed to the adversarial nature of M/F reproductive strategies . Being a research chemist who has been involved in neurotransmitters, premised that this was due to the effect of hormones on the neuroendocrine system. The work of Professor Iain McGilchrist was a starting point. https://thejollysociety.com/mcgilchrist-on-scheller-the-importance-of-value-in-constituting-reality/

The implications of the left brain hemisphere being a dopamine driven, oestrogen dependent powerhouse, solves many puzzles which would be intractable. Have pulled it all together in a public pdf with nearly 200 references. https://j4mb.org.uk/2024/09/04/warren-perkin-ms-patterning-shes-making-mgtow/

Didn't stop there, as was on the trail of something now. Paternal mitochondrial DNA is assassinated by the female egg, almost at the moment of conception, by ubiquitin. https://www.nature.com/articles/46466

This puts women in charge of all metabolic processes originating from the Krebs Cycle and its by products. The female is in charge of steroid production. From that point onwards, men are destined to work for women. When our SRY gene differentiates us into males at 7 weeks' gestation, our own testosterone is used against us, converted into oestrogen, which will pattern our brains to exhibit male behaviours. https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1995-97461-002

https://neuronline-uat.sfn.org/-/media/Project/Neuronline/PDFs/2019/How-to-Study-the-Origins-of-Sex-Differences-in-Brain-and-Behavior.pdf

The bottom line is that, courtesy of testosterone, we are going to be stronger, more adventurous, more risk-taking workhorses for women. This all started when eukaryotic sex evolved from bacteria. Have written it all up as 'The Bacterial Origins of Femininity' by Baxter Basics. It's on Kindle, and will make it free for a couple days, starting tomorrow.

AfghanistanIsTaliban · 2025-02-23T09:12:21+00:00

What research

As others have said here, feminism still holds nearly unchallenged control over gender studies. The predecessor of gender studies was women's studies. Pro-MRA research won't be built in a day.

(And I believe "Pro-MRA" works should be bound to essays, op-eds, and reviews, not quantitative studies. I don't want some crazy MRA to further ruin our reputation by fabricating data.)

The closest thing to MRA-related research is "men's studies" research. It has already been critiqued by femnists for taking away funding from women's studies, and has also been critiqued with the pretext that men are oppressors and do not need a sociological field dedicated to them. Most articles published in "masculinities" journals have a pro-feminist/menslib lean and commonly cite papers from feminist journals like Feminism & Psychology and such.

There's a small pro-MRA journal within men's studies called "New Male Studies". I think it's nice that there's a journal that is explicitly on "our" side, but many of the papers there read like opinion articles rather than academic analyses. The "scholars" publishing papers do not seem to be very qualified either, although that's somewhat changing. Here's an example of an article published on NMS: THE INFLUENCE OF SOCIAL COMPARISONS ON BODY IMAGE IN MEN: A SCOPING REVIEW. This one is quite nice, but many of the other papers belong to this sub, not as academic papers.

There is a very new field called "Black male studies" which is an assessment of Black masculinity and how it interacts with society. Tommy J. Curry is an influential scholar in this field and he wrote a book in 2017 called The Man-Not: Race, Class, Genre, and the Dilemmas of Black Manhood in which he justifies Black Male Studies. BMS scholar Adebayo Oluwayomi argues that this book should not be read as a work of intersectionality because intersectionality intentionally downplays Black misandry. BMS scholars controversially view violence against Black men as both race-related and gendered (ex: George Stinney Jr., whose portrait is the cover of Curry's book). There are many posts on this subreddit discussing black masculinities such as this one about BELL HOOKS' (may her name be obliterated) works.

I'm not clicking on that askfem link. Don't want to lose my sanity by reading through piles of "itz zah patriarky" comments. Aside from that, what are they saying in there?

Main-Tiger8593 · 2025-02-23T13:54:21+00:00

ok my first question here is at which point are you considered as feminist or mens rights activist?

if i send money to ncfm or support a foodbank actively or call out toxic behavior or be a member of an union it probably does not count as activism...

plagiarism is easy to do and hard to disprove...

btw i commented in this post under a +300 upvoted comment...

librae_vongehl · 2025-02-23T10:07:50+00:00

I have many.

Probably the most useful to the most men is an epic poetic legal argument that destroys "Absolute Immunity" and forces Judges to stop hiding their complicity in genocide, wealth transfers, and children transfers to enemy groups by arbitrary gimmicks from a package of progressive policies that perfected 5th gen warfare and put white genocide into law in 1965.

Going to post it online, after I drop this bomb in court and watch the shock spread.

Its hot. At first, I thought it was a cool point.

Then i Showed it to my law industry friends. ... they went pale. Started laughing, got everyone wasted, and went on and on about what a huge deal its going to be.

So, yah me.

My other work is the absolute unquestionable brilliant idea, that is so perfect that no alien lobbied progressive policy can withstand its attack.

Going after the entire beaurocratic creeping feudalism by essentially chucking memetic munitions at the closed system.

Pointing out the contradictions until the echos block out the system's means to function, ... until it fck offs and dies.

Diversity is a weapon against social trust, it works perfect. Taking those principles to destroy trust in the judiciary until every Family Court genocidal pig is so mocked into a crisis of faith that even kids will want to push them as they fall. Weakness disgusting.

When Judges are Ridiculed every day, at every bench,? Every judge will have to recuse themselves because no confidence, no faith, no trust, and they will never be able to prove their impartiality again.

They will never beable to take a case without their shady motives being questioned, and they recuse themselves.

No one should do bussiness with a judge who is more powerful than God, and can never be wrong because he has no duty or obligation to be right. He's absolutely Immune.

It won't end well for anyone who enters into a good faith agreement with a faithless pirate.

This also hits Posthuman too.

Effectively, Feminism. Marxism, et al ... no longer exists. It merged into Posthuman about 30 years ago.

Guess why they think xexualizing toddlers is a solution to childhood innocence? Innocence is sacred and that interfers with decenter and devalieimg humans to no more important than dust. ... no joke. Big threat.

Gist for background to elovaratesomea little. Some may not know;

Feminism is a weapon system based on trauma-based social engineering. This psywarfare platform was created by Frankfurt School. They also created the OSS, that became the CIA and ran the mk.ultra research program, .. this mkuktra testing platform was used to perfect feminism.

This is why wmn are always getting suckered into voting for the destruction of our people, ... the policies always have a nice sounding pro-social title and it feels good to vote on a nice sounding title. Who cares about the horrors qcrually in the pol8cy? It's men's problem, they are the adults,, fck them and fck their kids.

---Moms for infinity-government to raise our kids and give moms wine. ...and keeps kids from dad's because they actually love the kids, and that makes mom's feel bad, because moms can't love. Feminism damaged their capacity to love.

Wmn have prolonging their adolescents, so wmn don't have to be adults. The government does that for them.

Feminist thinkers, policy researchers, and lobbyists were behind converting American Family Law, word for word to Soviet Family Law

No Fault divorce was a significant cause for the collapse of the Soviet Union.

The American founding fathers pointed out that family is the first defense against tyranny. Which is why Family is the first target of tyranny.

Men can't trust wmn, so men have no incentive to build the world or pursue women.

Men pursuing a wife used to create 32% of GDP.

Things will break more often and stay broken longer. ..until price and scarcity collapses our urban centers.

Not enough people for cities anyways.

Women waited too long past 20yo to have 4 kids, so BPA rapidly aged and damaged their ovaries to a 45yo

They all got a worthless careerd that their college created just to tell a meaningless degree.

Since wmn get paid a lot but produce nothing, it takes 10-50 men working a real job that produces, just so a single wmn can LARP at s career.

Further shrinking the labor pool, by allocating men for busy work to coddle wmn's pretend work.

"Smash Patriarchy" means destroy fatherhood.

This Feminists specifically stated that Feminism exists to destroy America and to destroy America the must end fatherhood and destroy family. The only way to destabilize family to weaken society according to the Femminists, Kate Millet in this point, ... Is for Feminism to make women disgusting trashy wrecks with pxrn addiction, drug addiction, self-mutilation/promiscuity, neglecting and abxsing kids while hiding them from their father's protections... skip ahead, ... wage war against monogamy, get women to cheat to cause wide spread social destruction and break down social trust.

...got bored. Left a lot out.

Title	What research and activism are Men's Rights groups currently engaged in?
Author	Sewblon
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Date	February 23, 2025 12:31 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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