UK: Starmer warns Brits can't 'shrug our shoulders' at young men falling under thrall of 'toxic' influencers... but rules out a minister for men.

Emergency-Thanks-324 · 2025-03-24T13:52:56+00:00

It's DISPICIBLE that it's ok to single out one gender and pretend the other is perfect, how about tackling vile femeninity

Can you imagine if they were saying similar things but about young girls, the double standards as usual make me sick. I'm sick to death of it. Constantly being told your bad because you're male. It's literally the definition of discrimination.

furchfur · 2025-03-24T13:39:46+00:00

As I have stated many times before the British Labour Government detests males.

The Conservative were not much better but at least their government did not base policy on a Netflix fiction drama.

Starmer referred to the made up story as a documentary!

AfghanistanIsTaliban · 2025-03-24T14:25:18+00:00

UK's Starmer readies order to raise defence spending, Sunday Times reports

this evil blairite increased "defence" spending from 2.3% to 2.5%. factoring in the latest GDP figure, that is a 6.68 billion pound increase. but giving 250k per year to a sexual abuse helpline is too much?

A person who used the service from the North West told the BBC they feared male victims would be less likely to use RSASL because all the phonelines were staffed by women only.

"I was abused by a female, the last person I want to speak to about that experience is a woman," he said.

"It is very important that the user can choose the gender of the person they speak to."

The client said he was abused between the ages of eight and 18 and suffered Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) as a result.

"PTSD is cumulative, so every time something happens I get triggered, it gets worse," he said.

"I would see someone the same build as the person who abused me and it would trigger me, it got to the point where I was hardly leaving the house."

He said he spent many years trying to get help before he found Safeline's NMSH.

"I tried everything, I self-referred through the NHS and it was a 48-week wait," he said.

"I was given cognitive behavioural therapy and sent to group sessions, but this isn't something you can talk about in a group of strangers."

He said he came across NMSH while researching treatment options and was amazed how quickly it was able to help.

He said "within a matter of weeks" he had been referred for therapy and went on to receive frequent counselling sessions.

"It was just totally different, they completely understood. I wasn't expecting much given my history with other services, and it didn't cost me a penny.

"£250,000 is nothing when you consider what they are doing for people. I'm amazed they managed to help me so much on a tiny budget."

can't "shrug our shoulders" at young men and boys being sucked into alt-right and incel pipelines, but we can shrug at men who have been sexually abused as boys and who want adequate care?

HonestlyKindaOverIt · 2025-03-24T14:37:25+00:00

A minster for men is “not the answer”? Curious as to why? I can only presume it’s because the conclusions any decent MFM would come to would require some compromise from the part of government consistently catering to women, and they don’t want to have that discussion. Baffling decisions being made here.

Jahaangle · 2025-03-24T13:57:23+00:00

This is to be expected, rather than shine a light on the failure of educators, ministers, policy makers and journalists, it's far easier to blame "porn and video games".

Every shrieking upper middle class columnist in the Guardian is now pearl clutching at the plight of young men, forgetting that a few years ago they were calling them privileged and the root cause of society's problems.

Francis-c92 · 2025-03-24T15:00:32+00:00

Once again, those in power are willing to throw men and boys aside.

Waiting for someone to explain why everyone is willing to simply neglect half the population?

Can't remember where I read it but when we have a problem, it's up to society to come to fix it. When men have a problem, it's up to men to sort it themselves.

RoryTate · 2025-03-24T16:39:35+00:00

If young UK men becoming violent was an actual problem, the current govt would be trying to find an actual solution for it (like creating a Minister for Men to improve young men's health, career prospects, etc). Instead, they're just using the public's fear of this unlikely threat to further their own political interests, which proves they don't really think it's important. Their policy will ultimately result in influencers that are their political opponents being banned/shadowbanned, silenced/censored, etc, on social media and elsewhere. Anyone right of center will be the targets of their "education programs", so that the Labour party can get voted in again. That's all that is happening here.

Because let's be completely honest with ourselves: political parties of any viewpoint – right or left – no longer exist to actually govern. The sole purpose of every policy, program, funding, etc, they offer is to get elected, and then to get re-elected. Such is the catch-22 of democracy. In the modern age of mass marketing to voters, creating the perception of good governance is now considered the only goal, rather than actually building a stable, prosperous, and unified country in reality. Even if a party objectively improves a country's metrics, unless they can market that fact extremely well to its citizens, they're going to quickly lose to other parties that are better at swaying public opinion than them.

Anyway, apologies for that aside, and let's get back to the actual topic of the article....

Of course, these "re-education camps" will backfire on the left in the UK (and elsewhere), because these politicians are incompetent and don't understand how any of this works. Since all of this indoctrination is built on lies, even a fool like Andrew Tate can tear apart their dogma, and sound impressive when doing so. The internet is where religions go to die after all, and "wominist/leftist" ideology is just a secular religion at this point. It's a giant punching bag for anyone with 2 working brain cells to their name. The only question is who will open the eyes of these teen boys to the lies they've been told in school, the media, entertainment, and elsewhere. Will it be an extremist like Tate? Or someone who actually cares about men and boys for something other than selfish reasons?

Just_an_user_160 · 2025-03-24T19:18:49+00:00

Always shifting the blame, i'm sure feminist policies have done much more harm to young men in UK, but the "toxic influencers" are the main problem of young men .

Tireless_AlphaFox · 2025-03-24T16:20:08+00:00

Sometimes I wonder if UK is literally one of the most sexist countries in EU or we are just getting stuffed with bad news from UK because they also speak English

DevilishRogue · 2025-03-24T17:34:46+00:00

but rules out a minister for men.

All mouth, no trousers.

HandsomeJack44 · 2025-03-24T17:50:34+00:00

This is levels of irony that shouldn't even be possible.

The UK has a violence issue, and rather than ponder for even a second where that might be coming from (as that line of thinking is currently illegal), they've already decided the problem is simply men as an entire gender.

And then, rather than say, I don't know, try to support or uplift men, they're going to finger wag and blame, as though that won't push still more men away from the system.

They're not going to shrug their shoulders, they're going to crack their knuckles. And the few men who still refuse to believe the system hates them will have their opinion changed.

g1455ofwater · 2025-03-24T23:28:10+00:00

Young men should steer clear of, Keir Starmer. He is truly dangerous.

WanabeInflatable · 2025-03-24T17:22:23+00:00

Who could be a minister for men in their government?

Realistically it would be a delusional male feminists at best. Openly hostile and harmful at worst.

DontHugMeImBanned · 2025-03-24T17:11:21+00:00

Finally, their unstoppable faux appeals to healthy masculinity meets their immovable patriarchal oppressor's privilege

GoldenFutureForUs · 2025-03-25T01:10:49+00:00

Starmer doesn’t care about men failing. He doesn’t care. He can say what he wants but until he brings in a couple Ministers for men, starts funding specific groups for men’s mental health, starts ensuring boys succeed in school again and removes female university scholarships - he is all bark and no bite.

Timperior · 2025-03-25T01:51:29+00:00

He's done with the shrugging. Now on to paying lip service.

AnuroopRohini · 2025-03-25T07:18:02+00:00

can anyone from UK tell me when he is going to lose??

Title	UK: Starmer warns Brits can't 'shrug our shoulders' at young men falling under thrall of 'toxic' influencers... but rules out a minister for men.
Author	furchfur
Upvotes	379
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Date	March 24, 2025 1:35 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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