Understanding men who don’t want children from a RPW perspective?

talesfromthecraft · 2025-03-30T07:13:00+00:00

They have an innate drive to reproduce but it’s the actual act of having sex which is what their desire is. Most men do not want to impregnate every woman they want to have sex with. Some men don’t want to impregnate anyone at all because they do not want children. I’d assume 99% of the men that don’t want children still want to have sex.

CountTheBees · 2025-03-30T07:17:10+00:00

men have an innate desire to reproduce

From an evolutionary psychology standpoint, given that birth control is fairly recent, it suffices for the survival of the species that men only have an innate desire to have sex with fertile women. Many men I have spoken to never actually wanted children until they had one themselves and then some form of "love at first sight" happens to bond them to their child. Would be interested to find out if The Evolution of Desire makes any case for "having children" vs simply "sex with attractive women".

Lets_Go_Wolfpack · 2025-03-30T07:19:56+00:00

Edit: this topic has invited quite the amount of men in here with rule-breaking comments, hence the original comment below.

This is a bit outside the scope of RPW imo.

You’re going to get a wide variety of answers here, because there’s a wide variety of causes for a man to not to want to have kids.

In general, the RPW theory is if a man says during the vetting process that he doesn’t want kids, and that doesn’t align with what you want. Take that at face value and move on.

If there’s a specific cause or specific scenario youre personally experiencing (either directly or indirectly), then a discussion on that in the context of RPW def is in scope.

The_Gilded_orchid · 2025-03-30T07:49:52+00:00

My fiance doesn't want children because he has a disease that is inheritable, which has made his life very hard at times. This also means adoption or fostering would not be suitable, as I care for him when he's very unwell.

jobgh · 2025-03-30T07:15:45+00:00

a poor upbringing, philosophy- look up anti natalism

HURTz_56 · 2025-03-30T08:24:01+00:00

I am skeptical that I will meet a woman who will have the desire to stay with me for the rest of my life. Actual RPW are like unicorns.

I've seen the pattern too many times where a woman feels her biological clock ticking and love bombs the man until she is married and pregnant. And then basically as soon as she has a positive pregnancy test, she become a distant, cranky, argumentative hag. Like she's the victim of the patriarchy and angry at the world, sleeps all day, gets nothing done, refuses to return to work, can't even do basic things to help herself. Only offers intimacy as a chore when she needs something, or bc she refuses to actually apologize for misdeeds. And the man is left flapping in the wind. She completely changes personality and becomes a hormonal monster. The marriage is a ticking time bomb from that moment on.

I am never going through separation divorce and custody battle ever again. The most painful thing in life, even worse than a friend or loved one dying. The grieving process for losing a child in divorce is the most harrowing process imaginable. Never going through that again. Had a vasectomy bc the pain is unreal.

Society is only set up right now to support single moms, very little in place to actually support marriage. It's as though society actually wants single moms.

Crixusgannicus · 2025-03-30T08:51:50+00:00

We want children. We do not want children with the typical Western, primarily American woman under the current socio-political-legal regime. Not the smart players, anyway.

Hell, smart players truly barely want anything to with the typical Western, primarily American woman under the current socio-political-legal regime beyond satisfaction of "needs".

What happens is socio-political-legal programming is so intense it's extremely hard to overcome.

For example:

Jeff Bezos is one of the smartest men on the planet.

Jeff Bezos is one of the riches men on the planet.

Jeff Bezos is about to get married.

AutoModerator · 2025-03-30T06:58:15+00:00

Title: Understanding men who don’t want children from a RPW perspective?

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Full text: Evolutionary psychology suggests men have an innate drive to reproduce (I’ve been reading The Evolution of Desire.) So when a man explicitly states he doesn’t want children, how should this be understood in an RP/RPW perspective?

Is he rejecting his biological programming, or have modern influences—financial concerns, lifestyle preferences, or cultural shifts—overridden this drive? Could it be an evolved response, where he opts out due to perceived instability, lack of confidence in his own genes, or skepticism (ultimately, not being an optimal husband candidate)?

For those familiar with male psychology and evolutionary theory, what are your thoughts? What truly drives men to forgo something that evolution has hardwired as a fundamental instinct?

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littleladyluv · 2025-03-31T18:38:01+00:00

It makes no sense because most dads out there never wanted kids, yet here they are lol.

My dad is one of those men.

He has 6 kids and didn’t even want 1!

He does love us, but it’s complicated.

manolosandmartinis44 · 2025-04-01T02:16:00+00:00

My husband insisted that we both finish our education before so much as discussing marriage or children.

HalfwaydonewithEarth · 2025-03-30T08:28:25+00:00

When he meets a 10 he will change his tune.

serene_brutality · 2025-03-30T15:50:38+00:00

A sex drive is a desire to engage in the act that causes reproduction. So desires/attraction triggers and how they want to be treated by their mates are pretty much the same wanting kids or not wanting kids, we still have the urge to copulate.

TwitchyVixen · 2025-03-30T21:28:07+00:00

Mine still has the natural urge to impregnate me but it's followed by the urge to beat it out of me before impregnating me again 🤣 (im on BC btw lol

As for why he doesn't want them. I guess it comes down to lack of resources to go around, it's hard enough surviving just the 2 of us. We don't have the mental let alone financial stability to raise even 1 child

Gullible_Net_8766 · 2025-03-31T05:42:07+00:00

Read about antinatalism philosophy

2xdrgn · 2025-03-30T14:57:14+00:00

I’m a transcendent man driven by the will to power, and I prioritize my own enjoyment and independence above everything else. I reject societal cooperation, familial responsibilities, and sacrifice—those are burdens for women and beta men—while I embrace my identity as an alpha warrior, focusing only on my own power, influence, and pleasure. I admit this selfish stance goes against mainstream values, so I keep it to myself, sharing it only anonymously.

Title	Understanding men who don’t want children from a RPW perspective?
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Date	March 30, 2025 6:58 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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