Is advocating against demoralizing and demonizing men is Anti-feminist?

wtfbrurrur · 2025-04-03T14:29:08+00:00

Feminism isnt about equality inherently. To be a feminist you just have to 1. Believe women are oppressed or disadvantaged 2. Believe that should change

Nowhere in that is equality implied

MyKensho · 2025-04-03T14:14:25+00:00

On paper, is feminism about hating men? Technically, no. Does profound misandry still manifest anyway? Absolutely. Do influential feminist ideologues draw a sharp line in the sand against misandry? Definitely not.

If your movement so rapidly devolves into hatred among those who follow it, maybe it's a good indicator that the movement needs to be completely overhauled or scrapped entirely. In favor of a movement that's actually inclusive and actually egalitarian.

FewVoice1280 · 2025-04-03T16:06:14+00:00

So now they unironically agree that male loneliness is a problem ?

PROFESSA954 · 2025-04-03T16:09:30+00:00

It's a vicious cycle. Some men are lonely. Some lonely men do or desire fucked up shit because they're miserable and lonely. People begin to demonize and avoid all men not even just the lonely ones. Men get more lonely. Rinse and repeat.

It's the same way with racism as it is with sexism. Example: Black people are called stupid, and prone to crime. Some people avoid hiring black people due to the stigma. Black people become more impoverished so some resort to crime and selling drugs. This gets black people labelled as stupid and prone to crime. Rinse and repeat.

Many forms of irrational hatred are self-fulfilling prophecies. They treat somebody badly based on assumptions they've made or biases they have which sometimes results in that person behaving badly from unfair treatment and then those people just smirk and say "See? I was right."

AbysmalDescent · 2025-04-03T17:48:09+00:00

One of the most common trends I've seen from women who support this kind of misandry is this practice of hating on certain men, and then when they are challenged on it they look for any excuse to justify their hatred by any means necessary. It's often very evident, simply by the fact that they were hating on those men long before they found whatever reason they're using to hate on them in the first place.

This seems like another one of those scenarios to me. A man having rape fantasies doesn't actually mean he is a rapist, and you don't really have to look any further than the countless women who have rape fantasies without condoning rape to see that. Some men fantasize about being raped by women too, or being physically abused by women, but that doesn't mean that they are just encouraging violence from women towards unconsenting men.

The reality of this is that if this man had been charismatic and attractive, or if he were a woman, he would have been given the benefit of the doubt or would have been treated with acceptance instead of immediate hatred, vilification or isolation. It would have just been treated as a kink. Instead, because this man is lonely or depressed, which are considered to be unattractive/unmasculine traits that women have very little sympathy for, it is presented in the worse way possible and a major logical leap is used as a reason to justify the lack of sympathy or justify his loneliness.

It's a way to avoid dealing with the issues they face, which she was already negatively predisposed towards long before she found out about this man's kink(because it had nothing to do with the kink).

NekoiNemo · 2025-04-03T20:02:31+00:00

The problem is that you've violated rule that is meant to enforce their echo chamber and have brought in an inconvenient opinion.

goinsouth85 · 2025-04-04T00:31:15+00:00

Does the level of their cruelty know any bounds?

Quiet-External-8890 · 2025-04-04T06:23:28+00:00

You already know the answer

Humble-Xora · 2025-04-06T05:42:36+00:00

Feminism is female supremacy practiced under a thin veil of equality. It was never about equality. When female supremacy is enforced it is fine with everyone, but when male interests are protected, it is suddenly missohgeenee. The hypocrisy is hard to miss.

Local-Willingness784 · 2025-04-03T16:26:25+00:00

arent women more at risk of being harmed by men that they know than some random lonely man? like by definition those men wouldn't be having contact with women even if they want to, that's part of what loneliness is, right?

tho I do agree that women shouldn't play savior for men, they just don't know how it is and seem to want to have more interest in making those men do what they want instead of what those men could want and maybe need, but I think that also goes vice-versa, I wouldn't want to go out of my way to clown, for instance, in women who couldn't become mothers despite wanting to, they have had reasons and experiences for ending up like that, and to have me as a man telling them to "put themselves out there" or whatever stupid advice people tell lonely men to do would be a disservice to them, it would be as if they knew better about those women lives compared to themselves, as if my advice was so good that they owed me gratitude and stuff for saying stuff they probably already tried.

ElisaSKy · 2025-04-05T05:27:32+00:00

Is advocating against demoralizing and demonizing jews antinazism?

Is advocating against demoralizing and demonizing blacks anti kkk?

UnknownReasonings · 2025-04-03T13:59:04+00:00

I get why you feel this way but no, Feminism is not about hatred of men. I'll be honest though, it's hard lately to not associate the two. I think that's the goal of the misandrists.

Don't let misandrists claim to be feminists, explain to them that their hatred of men excludes them from feminism by definition.

Title	Is advocating against demoralizing and demonizing men is Anti-feminist?
Author	ReceptionInformal749
Upvotes	119
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Date	April 3, 2025 1:47 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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