Why objectifying men is okay.

T5000X · 2014-08-22T04:52:24+00:00

Want a female president? (Other than it seeming likely next election), Fucking vote for one instead of expecting it to just fall into your lap. You have half the voting power of the country, use it.

You want on demand, free tampons, birth control, and abortions? Go start your own communist country, cause in the free world, you're entitled only to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, not entitles to be catered to like a flower.

Want a zero wage gap? Try getting some high school level math skills and it will quickly vanish.

Complaining about "under watched" and "underpaid" female athletes? Sorry toots, people watch athlete to see the strongest and fastest possible people duke it out, and as a dimorphic species, that means men are typically the more entertaining athletes.

"...and Womens magazines are devoted to what men want". Dumbass

MRB2012 · 2014-08-22T09:48:19+00:00

Put another way: We will stop Dong Watch once there’s a female president, zero wage gap, and Swedish-level paid parental leave; once tampons, birth control, and abortions are all available free and on-demand.

No you won't. If you actually thought objectification was wrong, you wouldn't do it. The fact that you do it shows that you don't really have a problem with it.

Jon Hamm: No critically acclaimed human G.I. Joe ever lost a role because his dick was too big.

They actually did have digitally to shrink Brandon Routh's dick for Superman Returns.

World Cup Soccer Players: Slate’s Amanda Hess explained this one best. Unlike their underwatched, underpaid female counterparts, male professional athletes don’t need to be conventionally good-looking in order to get media coverage and corporate endorsements.

I'm sure all those endorsement deals David Beckham gets have nothing to do with his appearance.

Justin Theroux: The son of a journalist and a corporate lawyer, Theroux is white, male, privately educated, and handsomely compensated. Through marriage, he will reportedly combine his fortunes with Jennifer Aniston, who is worth $150 million.

Is that a hint of jealousy I detect?

Of course, most people don’t object to objectification because they’re worried about the objectified party. (In fact, because beauty is a privilege, we must hear arguments that objectification is a compliment.)

I don't think having legions of drooling fangirls has done Channing Tatum any psychological harm. Do you?

I could tell you that the Dong Watch is our attempt to show men how it feels to be objectified, either to make them sympathetic to our cause or out of pure retribution. But either would be false. Male objectification isn’t about making men feel bad. It’s about not caring how men feel.

If you didn't care, you wouldn't have written an article about it.

Or at least, putting it aside long enough to think about what we desire.

You're making the assumption guys care if you find John Hamm attractive. We don't.

jpflathead · 2014-08-22T05:00:50+00:00

Typical feminista. Rationalizing the impossible.

Woe be to any person of any sex or gender that would ever date her. She will never be wrong about anything.

Sociopathic bitch.

sugar_free_haribo · 2014-08-22T05:09:25+00:00

Objectifying people is an inherent by product of depicting them, at least by the definition being used by most feminists. There is no strong evidence that this has a negative affect on the lives of men or women. Specific depictions can be an issue if they become common, but that's a different discussion.

When you critique the size, shape, colour and hair of male disney characters you're not simply objectifying them, you're making all sorts of rude judgements about male genitals in general.

I personally wouldn't find this acceptable if the subjects were female disney characters with captions discussing the shape, size and colour of their labia. That's disgusting, and I think there are enough issues around body image where genitalia are concerned, we don't need to add to that mess. But apparently it's not only mere objectification when the subjects are male, it's also totally fine and in the opinion of some, justified.

The whole thing is so hypocritical and ridiculous it's hard to wrap your head around it.

Ultramegasaurus · 2014-08-22T07:59:54+00:00

I don't even care that much about women drooling over sexy men. Sure it's objectification, but it's not a big problem. I mean, the veneration of the female body ("objectification") is what makes their life so friggin' easy in so many aspects of life.

The real issue with objectification of men is, that they're objectified by their usefulness all the time. Men are supposed to be useful, period. They're only respected if they bust their ass open with all sorts of work, especially the physical and dangerous kind, and center their lives around catering to women. Male disposability kills men. It makes them less human than women and damns them to a life full of chores and sacrifices only to gain the approval of women and society at large. And this state of affairs is so deeply embedded that it is basically unquestionable. Our work ethic is downright social darwinist at this point, especially to males. Sure, maybe it's biology, but at some point in civilization, we really ought to grow above harmful biological urges.

Lrellok · 2014-08-22T12:19:25+00:00

Its like this was written by someone who read about objectification in a magazine and never read anything more. Objectification has nothing to do with economic or reproductive power (male reproductive power wtf is she talking about?) Objectification is (in feminist terms) about ownershipand control on an indevigual level, not about class possition.

rogerwatersbitch · 2014-08-22T04:55:46+00:00

"Put another way: We will stop Dong Watch once there’s a female president, zero wage gap, and Swedish-level paid parental leave; once tampons, birth control, and abortions are all available free and on-demand."

How nice

pevans05 · 2014-08-22T07:45:58+00:00

I wanted to post this article to see what all of you think. Some points for discussion:

The author believes that as a general rule men objectify women regularly and publicly.

She asks is it unfair for women to objectify men and by doing so, does that lower women down to men's level?

Do you agree that women are objectified? Are they held to higher beauty standards than men?

Suppose you agree that men objectify women, is it fair and how would you feel, as a man, to be objectified? Have you been objectified?

Would if it be done for retribution, sympathy, or out of desire make a difference?

Lastly, are the consequences of objectification different for men and women? I saw one commenter somewhere argue that violence against women is in part due to the abuser's objectification of her. She adds that the objectification of men would be less likely to result in any violence. Do you agree? Disagree?

M4Strings · 2014-08-22T10:41:07+00:00

“Not being objectified” is just one of the many advantages of being male. When we selectively revoke this freedom from body scrutiny, we don’t do anything to diminish the meaningful economic and reproductive advantages men enjoy.

Really, men aren't normally objectified? I'll remember that the next time I see a commercial for men's swimwear. By their own logic then we can say women aren't normally objectified and when we choose to we don't diminish their economic and reproductive standings.

waves_of_ignerence · 2014-08-22T11:20:04+00:00

Unrepentant bigotry and female privilege.

Feminism in a nutshell.

avantvernacular · 2014-08-22T14:06:09+00:00

Male objectification isn’t about making men feel bad. It’s about not caring how men feel.

So much for "feminism helps men's issues." I do find it rather peculiar how often feminists and traditionalists seem to have he same stance towards men's emotional well being.

Ransom_Stoddard · 2014-08-22T14:16:50+00:00

Why guiltless racism is okay:

LAMFF · 2014-08-22T16:58:41+00:00

These kind of articles just further the emotional gap between men and women. This women may feel empowered by her statements but as a man it really just hardens my heart towards women's issues. It's to the point where all the anti-male rhetoric from the feminist bloggos-sphere has rung pretty much every last drop of empathy I have towards women and women's issues. Basically from my perspective, you are on your own ladies.

ThatsWhat-YOU-Think · 2014-08-22T10:48:03+00:00

I was actually for the article until I saw

...zero wage gap, and Swedish-level paid parental leave; once tampons, birth control, and abortions are all available free and on-demand

Title	Why objectifying men is okay.
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