Feminist utopia...

kizzan · 2014-11-15T14:37:08+00:00

Like every area of life outside of gender politics, the choices you make have consequences, especially when your choices affect other people. I agree that a woman should be allowed to choose who she lets put seed in her body. But a man not liking her decision to put another man's seed in her body, and so leaves her, is a natural consequence of her actions. Everybody would agree with this in examples outside of gender politics. But blinders to reality come on with politics of any kind, and people can't see common sense.

mgtow4ever · 2014-11-15T14:58:13+00:00

So feminist Utopia = Slavery ?

tinkertoy1258 · 2014-11-15T16:10:34+00:00

So... as long a your have sex exclusively with other married women, you never have to worry about parental responsibilities again?

guywithaccount · 2014-11-15T15:24:32+00:00

Poe's Law is strong with this one.

aliengoods1 · 2014-11-15T17:11:33+00:00

I can't argue that women should have total control over who they fuck. That's a no-brainer. But thinking that another man should have to pay for their decisions is ludicrous, and anyone who believes such is rather pathetic.

2014-11-15T14:28:35+00:00

It is the complete opposite in the UK which works very well for both men and women. If it handled the way described above it also lets the man off the hook who the woman had a fling with. No way would I get married if I was going to be responsible for the children of my wife regardless of who the father was.

2014-11-15T15:18:51+00:00

Melanie McDonagh: who's the daddy?

David Thompson: An instrument of choice

For the entire course of human history, men have nursed profound, troubling doubts about the fundamental question of whether or not they were fathers to their own children; women, by contrast, usually enjoyed a reasonable level of certainty about the matter. Now, a cotton-wool swab with a bit of saliva, plus a small fee, less than £200, can settle the matter. At a stroke, the one thing that women had going for them has been taken away,

The one thing?

the one respect in which they had the last laugh over their husbands and lovers.

I hadn’t realised parenthood was about having the last laugh. Clearly, I need to brush up on the etiquette of modern mating. But surely paternity tests merely level the playing field in a matter of some gravity? What mama knows (and doesn’t say), papa can now find out. In terms of paternity, is that really such a crushing injustice?

DNA tests are an anti-feminist appliance of science, a change in the balance of power between the sexes that we’ve hardly come to terms with. And that holds true even though many women have the economic potential to provide for their children themselves… In making paternity conditional on a test rather than the say-so of the mother, it has removed from women a powerful instrument of choice.

Choice that may include deception and extortion.

Uncertainty allows mothers to select for their children the father who would be best for them.

Suckering former lovers? Not a problem. Mama wants a selection box. Depriving a child and its actual father of a chance to know each other is also apparently fine. Because uncertainty allows it. Feminism, so conceived, seems to entail the right to a little moral sleight of hand. But hey, choice!

The old situation, in which women presented men with a child, and the man either did the decent thing and offered support, or made a run for it, allowed women a certain leeway… Paternity was ambiguous and it was effectively up to the mother to name her child’s father, or not… Many men have, of course, ended up raising children who were not genetically their own, but really, does it matter?

Answers on a postcard please.

notIsugarpie · 2014-11-15T19:53:00+00:00

I read it, and I thought "this couldn't be something someone seriously said, this has to be from the onion."

promiscuous_jesus · 2014-11-15T20:40:29+00:00

Source?

efirelines · 2014-11-15T18:35:05+00:00

How someone can be so closed minded and belittle a whole gender to this form of slavery is beyond me. This is the blabberings of a psychopath.

ImTiredOfTheInternet · 2014-11-15T19:29:28+00:00

...I... I just...

...I don't even...

canadianmansrights · 2014-11-15T19:53:19+00:00

http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=87815

That is a feminist utopia

dangerousopinions · 2014-11-15T20:17:09+00:00

What the fucking fuck?

ChemicallyBlind · 2014-11-15T20:29:18+00:00

This is why charges like 'Conspiracy to defraud' exists. If a married woman cheats and gets pregnant with the lover's child and then divorces and sues for alimony then thats fraud. Plain and simple.

Yodude1 · 2014-11-15T20:47:48+00:00

Hm.... So abortions are a lie? There aren't women out there who use false positive pregnancy tests to abuse their husbands?

Gawrsh · 2014-11-15T22:00:08+00:00

Source.

imkindofalady · 2014-11-15T22:03:28+00:00

This is satire. I'm a woman and I think it's just silly. Marriage is a sacred union and relationships should be respected or obviously the disrespected party is going to leave.

Jack92783 · 2014-11-15T22:04:51+00:00

Like I commented in another thread recently: That is the equivalent of winning the evolutionary lottery for a woman- have an attractive and intelligent man provide the sperm while having the wealthy husband provide for it/educate it/raise it.

No sense getting worked up about it, it's a built-in instinct.

nicemod · 2014-11-15T22:37:13+00:00

Removed because there is no source given. If you reply to this comment with a credible source, I'll reinstate the post.

Title	Feminist utopia...
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Date	November 15, 2014 2:02 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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