How to deal with women using their sexuality to get favors

Sarcasticus · 2014-06-20T14:17:28+00:00

He's got an informational advantage (she thinks she's playing him, he knows it and knows her game) so he should be able to get something for this knowledge, if only a bit of fun

This is a poor mindset to have. You're accepting that you're not going to get laid, but now you're hanging around to spite her? Waste of time. Do you think she'll learn anything from the pissy antics of a man she's not going to fuck anyway? No, it'll confirm what she thought in the first place.

Next her and go do something productive to raise your value.

temparooney · 2014-06-20T13:41:08+00:00

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vzhu · 2014-06-20T13:46:59+00:00

Doing so is both petty and unproductive. Just next her, you can even get a potential plate.

temparooney · 2014-06-20T13:47:37+00:00

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TheSKSpecial · 2014-06-20T13:40:20+00:00

Why even waste the time and energy playing these piss-ant games with her? Cut the bitch off and find someone better to do.

sadshark · 2014-06-20T13:45:56+00:00

How can he fuck with her head?

This is irrelevant. You either fuck her or you don't. There's no 'win' in fucking with her head or 'flipping the script' on her. You only win when you're balls deep inside of her.

As in almost any situation, use agree and amplify. Even if she doesn't mention sex, but she's obviously dangling it in front of you, just go along the lines "the 2 of us can never have sex, I mean, we can both get sex anytime we want, so let's make it interesting between the 2 of us and never have sex with eachother". Or any other agree&amplify technique.

Now her hamster is in overdrive. You are now in control, you are refusing sex, you have the weapon and the bullets. Of course, she will agree with you initially "yeah, that's a good idea, let's not have the sex", but as we all know, what a woman says and what a woman does/feels are 2 completely different things.

Next up: escalate and fuck her while continuously telling her that you're not having sex... even when she's naked and ready to be fucked.

2014-06-20T13:57:56+00:00

Ignore her for the most part. If she keeps bugging you, buy her a pack of skittles.

temparooney · 2014-06-20T13:55:51+00:00

Once the conversation drifts into practical matters the magic is gone. Flirt, talk about sex, talk about fun stuff to do, talk about your interests and hers. But as soon as the conversations turns into:

my computer is broken and needs to be fixed
anything to do with money like I can't believe how much rents are
my car engine is making a funny noise

Listen, don't say anything about it, change the conversation to something else, sex is a good topic.

The best countermeasure is to avoid the situation at all costs.

If you are asked directly just say I don't do that or I would have to charge you for it and quote something outrageous.

Haus_of_Klaus · 2014-06-20T14:23:07+00:00

Don't so favors for women without them doing you a favor beforehand. Never take her word on it, "payment" must be upfront. If she retracts, then you just saved yourself from being a bitch and you know she just wanted to use you. React accordingly.

It's very important to make it clear ASAP that you're not some chump who does favors. Most women cannot comprehend this and take your generosity for weakness, thus they will continue to exploit this one-sided relationship. Tell her to fuck off or enlist the help of one of her orbiters, then show up after the favor's been done and reap the benefits.

temparooney · 2014-06-20T15:53:27+00:00

Let her try to use her sexuality, you do not actually have to give any favors. It arouses a girl to use her full playbook and have a guy be unfazed. There's sexual tension, she knows you are aroused, but you still weren't swayed at all - this is probably one of the easiest ways to wet panties. It's why buying the girl a drink when she says "buy me a drink" will generally not be very effective, but upping the game ("I only buy drinks for girls I've made out with") works. The latter is a natural escalation of her style of flirtation; she tries to leverage her sexuality into drinks and you essentially are saying that you are amused and need a greater amount of sexuality in order for you to give the favor.

Saying "No" works too, but when I'm out, I reframe all female bratty or bitchy behavior as flirtation of some sort, be it a shit test, an IOI, a signal for me to man the fuck up and escalate, etc. So I am not thinking "what what an entitled female, let me go fuck with her head." How pointless. I am thinking "okay, this girl is using her sexuality - that is flirting. If she's cute, engage her." EVEN THOUGH she is flirting for my money or validation in this case, I know that by dangling the carrot in front of her, I get a solid window to engage her and have her brain conflate "flirting for $" and "flirting for dick."

Women generally always come at you with some sort of angle or game, it is their nature. Like other commenters have said, you are very foolish to try to out-woman a woman - I would say this is the basis of old, old school PU (flip the script, act aloof and a little effeminate / metro, peacock, talk about female shit "Tell me, I need an opinion, why do girls like David Bowie?", etc.) It worked better than full out IT beta bucks strategy with khakis and interviewer questions, but it doesn't actually give you any real sort of masculine to feminine communication that cuts through the bullshit.

You cannot fight bullshit with bullshit, you're goal as a man is to be a bullshit-cutter, not a bullshit-producer. Trying to "punish" a woman for being a woman by waging psychological warfare on her (woman tactic #1) is like trying to fight a tooth cavity by pouring cocacola on it.

IllimitableMan · 2014-06-20T14:17:01+00:00

women using their sexuality to get favors

The reason there will never be social equality in society.

EverydayAsshole · 2014-06-20T13:46:14+00:00

It's not worth wasting the time to even think about. If she's being a child, there's no point even attempting. Trying to manipulate her for some kind of petty revenge is just asking to get accused of something. There's plenty of women out there, she will self-destruct on her own. One girl I knew like this in high school was at my reunion getting drunk and offering BJs behind the country club to anyone who could get it up. It was sad, but oddly satisfying.

pupplenupple · 2014-06-20T15:15:47+00:00

If you aren't alpha enough to trigger an alpha fucks scenario you can't win, the supply of guys willing to run round after her is too reliable.

I suppose you could introduce her to people if you'd find her interactions with them amusing.

SunAtNight · 2014-06-20T15:31:56+00:00

There are two problems here: you would have beta competition (someone else will do the homework for "free"), and you're still thinking in terms of your usefulness to her.

Use the information you have gathered this way: she wants you for the wrong reasons. She should want to have sex with you because she wants YOU, not as currency for some favour. Up your SMV, get her to have sex with you without you doing anything for her (besides taking her on a date, or other totally useless but fun stuff.)

Addendum: your time is precious. Act like it.

LostProsody · 2014-06-20T16:47:36+00:00

Helping women like this allows them to gain access to higher rungs of the ladder with no effort - even if you are helping for malicious reasons. If you want to know how the fuck these women are infiltrating STEM jobs I suspect this is one of the major culprits - because they sure as fuck aren't competent when they get into the workforce. Cut it out. Let her fail her math/physics/CS/engineering course. Even if some other thirsty guy steps in to fill your void be happy you aren't that guy.

Title	How to deal with women using their sexuality to get favors
Author	temparooney
Upvotes	5
Comments	64
Date	June 20, 2014 1:16 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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