The Institution of Marriage is Fucked, Brah – TRP Observations While Stoned at a Wedding.

vaker · 2014-06-29T20:09:11+00:00

Congratulations, you've reached partial understanding.

You're correct that in current western society marriage was made into a highly risky gamble. You're also correct that in this form the whole ceremony was a waste.

What you've failed to grasp yet is the real function of all that religious tradition and hocus-pocus. Human social evolution converged on stable families because they are essential to building stable civilizations. One of the major functions of traditions and religions was to keep female sexual instincts in check to enable stable families. The minister has spectacularly failed in even attempting to fulfill this function, probably because he himself doesn't understand his real role.

Summertime_Dimes · 2014-06-29T21:33:18+00:00

Weddings are one of the worst things you can do to your friends. And the better a friend you are, the longer you are obliged to stay.

For me a wedding invitation (outside of immediate family) means I am definitely going to be on vacation somewhere far away during that time.

gekkozorz · 2014-06-29T21:24:57+00:00

I, too, went to a wedding recently. Also my first one since unplugging. Any of you ever heard something called the Babushka Dance?

The wedding participants all make a giant circle around the bride. You put money into a hat, and everyone takes turns dancing with the bride. Meanwhile, the groom tries desperately to get in the circle while the participants all try to keep him out.

I mean, the whole thing is so hilariously representative of what marriage 2.0 is, it's surreal.

You're damn right when you say Dave is a prop. It boggled my unplugged mind the extent to which the groom, a guy I've known and loved my entire life, seemed to be worth nothing more than an accessory for the bride's enormous, over-expensive commitment celebration.

I'm just glad "that guy" will never be me.

OsoFeo · 2014-06-29T20:24:59+00:00

Several years back in my BP days, I went to an extraordinarily painful wedding. I knew the bride better than the groom (she and I were in this longstanding yoga group togther). Bride was actually very nice and reasonably pretty (but close to 30), groom was painfully beta. Almost omega. IIRC he ended up taking her last name. The toasts to the bride were along the lines of "it must be true love, you could have done much better but you totally settled", toasts to the groom were like "you were such a loser growing up, now look at what you scored!" Even with my BP programming still in effect I cringed hard.

More recently, a couple of summers ago I went to the wedding of a woman whose mother I worked with and had been very supportive professionally, so I felt obligated. $50K at least for that wedding, and they are already divorced less than 2 years later.

Summertime_Dimes · 2014-06-30T02:27:10+00:00

Weddings are a $40 billion/year business. Divorce is a $50 billion/year business. You just can't make that shit up.

Meglomaniac · 2014-06-29T20:02:45+00:00

I personally would never give money to a couple at a wedding besides maybe a small gift or something unless its my sister or blood family.

Most guests were parents’ friends and barely knew bride and groom – myself included. So these kids just getting started out could have had $25K-$45K of seed money to start a business, buy a house, fund retirement, spend on something useful.

If they were having a more rustic wedding and announced that the money they were collecting and saving on not having a blowout wedding was going to a down payment on a house, id probably open up my wallet book and lay down a good chunk for them.

Summertime_Dimes · 2014-06-30T01:11:33+00:00

Say what you want about weddings, but any party with an open bar and free high end food is alright by me.

moonsuga · 2014-06-29T22:54:57+00:00

Big weddings are the biggest joke of our society. I know a girl who married her BF who she didnt even like all that much. Invited over his entire extended family from Ireland to fly to SF. Wedding was over 500 people in a church in SF. Had the minister do his silly song/dance, they preached their love to their god jesus.. and all that crap. marriage literally lasted 4 months. they are divorced now and the dude is doing terribly. girl is now fucking a straight alpha. she literally told me she loves how big and strong he feels when he's on her fucking her. LOL.

Summertime_Dimes · 2014-06-30T04:54:42+00:00

I only read 60% of it.

Couple observations: What more important thing should God do besides caring about people? Just curious of what your expectations are, not trolling.

Not every wedding is about telling the man what he's supposed to do by ignoring the woman. I haven't been to a wedding in a long time besides my own but even my in laws made remarks that my wife needs to do this and that and it was in a relational way not sexist (aka do the dishes)

I do think that most modern weddings are a joke. It should be a party and some something super expensive. Some of the best weddings I've been to were the cheapest

FLFTW16 · 2014-06-30T00:10:18+00:00

This was a tough read. I understand you think it's all "bullshit," but crack open a thesaurus and expand your vocabulary a bit. You've taken the time to write a wall of text, now put some effort into making it a pleasure to read for your sympathetic RP audience.

Venividivixii · 2014-06-30T00:23:48+00:00

Stop saying brah, brah, its fucking annoying. Brah.

Slightly related, I thought about posting something while stoned once, but then I re-read everything I wrote the next morning and decided not to post it.

Brah.

5iveApples · 2014-06-29T19:35:37+00:00

Great post. If you're ever in the Chicago area, send me a message and lets chop.

barleymoo · 2014-06-29T21:04:03+00:00

Also it costs a fair bit simply to attend a wedding, both in money and in time.

I'm intending to make any future attendance conditional on my receiving a full refund for travel and accommodation expenses if the couple should divorce :-)

nothere_ · 2014-06-29T23:06:41+00:00

which matrix are you in bru? some valid points but the others made me laugh,either schadenfreude or im having a really shit day

ThanksRoissy · 2014-06-30T00:19:25+00:00

deal to not fuck other people and split their finances

Most religions see weddings and marriages as a much more serious matter. This is a deal between God to have two people become one person. For a lot of them divorce isn't an option with few exceptions.

snobocracy · 2014-06-30T08:52:33+00:00

Goddamn, OP is a dipshit.
No respect brah.

ajswdf · 2014-06-29T20:16:39+00:00

Do you think that all my friends and family would congratulate me on making a prudent and wise life-decision if I laid down 3/4ths of my net wealth on the pass line at the Bellagio and said “hand me the dice!”?

Of course not. Don't pass has better odds.

bradyo2 · 2014-06-30T08:39:48+00:00

Jesus Christ this post is so fucking annoying to read.

I've gotten half way down and have taken literally nothing from it other than the fact that you're a stoner and probably an angry pubescent teenager.

Stop saying "Rad", "Brah", "motherfuckers". Stop talking about weed, it's completely irrelevant to your post. Why are you moaning about wearing a tie?

This whole post genuinely reads as if it was written by a 14 year old kid who was dragged to a wedding by his parents.

bonerpotpie · 2014-06-29T21:51:54+00:00

Let me start by saying massive weddings are a ridiculous waste of money. I'm getting married in a few months at the county office. Then our immediately family is going to dinner. That's it.

That said, TRP or not, you come off like a massive douchebag. Disagreeing with practices is perfectly fine, but you sound like you need to so some self reflecting. You come off as incredibly bitter and whiny. Down vote away, but these are the impressions I get from you.

Summertime_Dimes · 2014-06-30T00:03:26+00:00

3 under Big Fancy Weddings are Fucking Bullshit had me rolling pretty hard OP. Good report and entertaining to read

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BadgerBurger · 2014-06-30T10:49:15+00:00

To women, marriage is the Super Bowl. The wedding and ensuing reception are gigantic spectacles. Then look at how many magazines, websites, and online videos are dedicated to prepping for marriage or planning a wedding. It's absurd. And all for what? Better Instagram photos than your sorority sister?

Incidentally, I went to an Orthodox Christian wedding and it was red pill as shit. No vows are exchanged. There's a lot of language like "the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church." Very interesting.

ladyway905 · 2014-06-30T13:56:57+00:00

I gotta say this. Your style of writing is fucking hilarious. "Unless Jesus is there, don't skimp on the fish and loaves.... " fucking gold, man.

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ColdEiric · 2014-06-29T23:52:43+00:00

Religious nuptuals in general are fucking bullshit. By way of example, the minister said (and I am paraphrasing) – “Dave, you gotta remember to not be complacent. You have to keep doing all the little things that you did to win her heart. You gotta take care of Jane and treat her right. You have to be responsible and loyal, and a good man…. Jane and Dave, we will now exchange rings.” WHAT. THE. ACTUAL. FUCK?!? Why didn’t this motherfucking asshole in a white collar read Jane the same riot act about being loyal and responsible and not getting fat?! Oh yeah… because Jane isn’t expected to do shit… by the church or anybody else. He literally spent 5 good minutes telling Dave all this shit he has to do, and doesn’t say word fucking one to her. A very sad, very poignant reflection of the way it really is, y’all.

Find out what the bible has to say about how women are supposed to behave, and you'll know what's a church and what's a pretty building with a man in a dress.

MrMagwitch · 2014-06-29T23:27:55+00:00

strivingforfreedom · 2014-06-30T00:57:00+00:00

I support the amount of times the word Brah has been used in this post and the comments section. I also feel as though Point Break is the best movie of all time.

mahlzeit · 2014-06-30T08:11:28+00:00

that is going to sacrifice ten years of extra life due to the stress of working hard enough to keep you fed, housed, clothed, and entertained

Are there actually any studies that compare life expectancy of married vs. unmarried men?

3Dice · 2014-06-30T11:06:16+00:00

In the past this type of wedding made much more sense. People usually lived in the same place for longer peroids of time and were closer to their family and church for survival reasons, which also kept divorce rate low. Now such a marriage is often far too impratical logistically and not even in line with the couples believes. If you never go to church your whole life why go on this day?

Marriage has turned into a marketing scam for example some people buy the line "he should spent 2 month salary on her ring" marketing ploy. Since the world is changing rapidly social norms are not a good guidline to live by.

cashmoney_x · 2014-07-01T16:22:07+00:00

"Were it me up there, I would have interrupted – “Whoa whoa whoa, now tell her that she is going to get ditched and replaced fast like quick if she balloons up, disrespects me in any way, spends too much of my money on stupid shit, acts like a petulant child too often, fucks around in any way, lies in any way, throws shit, or tries to condition our kids to be anything other than stone-cold alpha. IDGAF what your dad thinks, he isn’t marrying your ass and can shut the fuck up or get knocked the fuck out.”

No you wouldn't have. That being said, I liked this post.

DanG3 · 2014-06-30T11:52:21+00:00

Re: "Why didn’t this motherfucking asshole in a white collar read Jane the same riot act about being loyal and responsible and not getting fat?!"

Because the entitled Princesses parents paid for the wedding. Brah! And, they were probably celebrating good rid"dance" of her! If he was/is dumb-assed enough not to (try to) asset himself as to what he wanted in the ceremony, he pretty much deserves the life lesson he is about to get. Even 20 years ago I had a natural RP sense to be sure I made a token "statements" asserting the Man's role in the wedding-to-be-marriage. Granted it was my second wedding/marriage, so I knew the game. I made sure tools I wanted were on the bridal registry (my future father in law supported it). I made sure that there was a groom's cake, that dialogue and music I wanted was in the ceremony AND that former "plates" were bridesmaids (women do this all the time with beta orbiters).

I agree with most of the comments that the post, as it stands, is whine and cheese about (most) contemporary weddings-to-be-blue-pill-marriages. But, like many Red Pill things, weddings became what they are because men let them get that way, albeit, naively.

Spinning the post to the positive: Red Pill Men, (if you are going to get married) don't let the bride (or her mother) drive the wedding anymore than she is going to drive the marriage. You can give a little on the "her day" thing, but make your masculine presence and interests known. Is she going to give you shit tests about it? Yep. Do you need to pass the tests? Yep, more than ever! What do you say when she balks? "Well, let's talk about this marriage before we get too far into it." What do you have to lose? YOUR BALLS!

Ghoulishghoul · 2014-06-29T20:59:20+00:00

You seem like a nasty and entitled person. TRP is not for entitled whiners to bitch about how they didn't get to someone enough pot or that the wedding didnt provide them with enough food or so on and so forth. You don't mention a single red pill point. You just bitch and sound like an unpleasant person.

Look red pill doesn't mean you have to hate women or look at every relationship with the ultimate expectation that's its a source of misery and will ultimately fail. I someties feel like lie this redpill has attracted a large number of users who simply want to vent their hatreds and exasperations.

Title	The Institution of Marriage is Fucked, Brah – TRP Observations While Stoned at a Wedding.
Author	Summertime_Dimes
Upvotes	82
Comments	167
Date	June 29, 2014 6:59 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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3 under Big Fancy Weddings are Fucking Bullshit had me rolling pretty hard OP. Good report and entertaining to read