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You're going to love this: The EMSK poster is a Redpiller!

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Title You're going to love this: The EMSK poster is a Redpiller!
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Upvotes 125
Comments 73
Date July 1, 2014 5:42 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/29jhq1/youre_going_to_love_this_the_emsk_poster_is_a/
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[–]aphelion3342 84 points85 points86 points 12 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

False flag operation? I wrote to him thanking him for bringing so many new subscribers and he sent me back a genial and friendly message (to my surprise).

Some real dark triad shit to be sure.

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[–]1mr_throwz 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's so funny. He writes an anti-TRP post to give himself credibility (and bring us subs) and dumps TRP wisdom everywhere else and people suck it up.

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[–]3NO_LAH_WHERE_GOT 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup, there's redpill understanding, redpill behavior, and redpill badges. It's completely unnecessary to wear the redpill badge. Yung_Snuggie, the guy who described the NBA Hoe Game, he's another fella with great redpill understanding who refuses to wear the redpill badge. Fine by me. The badge is actually the most useless of the three. Get it how you live.

[–]muddynips 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Out of curiosity, how many new members did TRP get from the EMSK post?

[–]ModAerobus 28 points29 points30 points 12 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

You've got to be fucking kidding me. Did he really write that post to get us new members?

[–]eccentricrealist 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I would see no personal benefit for his part.

[–]Pattheboss56 43 points44 points45 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Idk he has a lot of reddit gold hitch has monetary value and just did us a service. I think he might be a genius

[–]Thzae 29 points30 points31 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This man is the troll of the century if this ends up being true.

[–]Pattheboss56 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Too bad we'll never know. If he is as dark triad as we think he is, he will just allow the mainstream to love him and never reveal his real game.

[–]theozoph 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We should sticky his post as a GREAT example of babytalk.

[–]CocaineOnThaSink 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Kind of funny the biggest discussion in /r/bestof would come from /r/TRP

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[–]3NO_LAH_WHERE_GOT 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is one of the truest, first principle things you need to know.

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[–]3NO_LAH_WHERE_GOT 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup, agreed. Daniel Radcliffe can get all the pussy he wants, so he can say whatever he likes and it doesn't matter.

[–]TRP Vanguardss_camaro 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

4chaners will 4chan.

When TRP breaks the top twenty subreddits, a cock will crow three times.

It will be banned by the mob.

The prophesy will thus go into completion.

[–]aphelion3342 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Looking that way. Can't say for sure, but he might have give 'em the old one two.

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[–]the99percent1 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

gotta pick the right subreddit.

This guy is a flailing genius.

[–]NOT_BRIAN_POSEHN 30 points31 points32 points 12 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link

I think his overall ideology is best detailed by this wiki article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_narcissism

I followed his link to this sub and have read a few sidebar articles and it seems TRP and the EMSK poster converge well on the "healthy narcissist" ideology. It seems to me that most TRP posters have been wronged in some way by women or life in general and are trying to reclaim their psychological and sexual sovereignty. The "sexual strategy" that keeps getting promoted here seems to be inspired by game theory in which sex is viewed as the ultimate reward and women as an unfair and unethical market monopolizer on the commodity of sex. The exact satisfaction posters here gain from playing this game and the lengths they choose to go to "win" seem to vary widely. There doesn't seem to be an archetypal "Red Piller" behavior beyond the acceptance that this game exists and that it is worth playing.

Just my two cents browsing this sub today. Please let me know if I've made any mis-characterizations/omissions.

[–]TheYellowPill 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago* (13 children) | Copy Link

Hey thanks for being one of the few to objectively review TRP.

With that said, I think you are focusing too much on the members, rather than what TRP is. The Red Pill boils down to truths. Truth about the sexual market place, sexual strategy, female psyche, life, etc.

A couple minor corrections:

1) Sexual strategy is a core topic, but it is up to the individual to determine what their ultimate goal is. RedPillers can be divided into 3 categories: long term relationship (LTR), plate spinning, and men going their own way (MGTOW).

2) Women are the gatekeepers of sex, while men (valuable men) are the gatekeepers of commitment. The 80/20 rule--women desire and have sex with the top 20% of males (alphas). That is why we promote self-improvement (game, lifting weights, career, money, status) to break into that golden 20%. It is foolish to think women are unethical for this. Women are hypergamous by nature and designed by evolution to seek out the best genes possible.

What the OP of the EMSK post doesn't seem to grasp is that TRP is just a tool--a collection of truths. What any RedPiller does with that tool is entirely up to him/her. A tool, like a hammer, can be used to build houses or to crush someone's skull. This does not make the hammer good or bad. It is up to the wielder to determine how to use the tool. It is beyond the scope of TRP to pass moral judgement. Are there a few RedPillers that use this knowledge for bad? Yes.

[My generalizations & anecdotes] I also find it ironic that his whole rant was about RedPillers using this knowledge to emotionally abuse women, which is an indirect endorsement that TRP works. Women are the masters of emotional abuse and manipulation. Women are inherently more deceitful than men. This should be obvious to anyone who has enough social experience. I would wager women emotionally abuse men 3 to 1. Meaning for every one man that emotionally abuses a woman, three women emotionally abuse men. (3:1 is probably understating.) And no I'm not condoning emotional abuse by either gender, even if women do it more often.

[–]1mr_throwz 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TRP is leading me towards a happy union with a foreigner. I'm American and I work out, which satisfied her hypergamy, and she's feminine which satisfies my masculinity.

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[–]∞ Mod | TRP Vanguardbsutansalt 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

for every 3 women emotionally abusing a man, there's 3 or more men physically beating a woman

[citation required]

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[–]∞ Mod | TRP Vanguardbsutansalt 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Did you know using the same methodology nearly ALL men are subjected to some form of domestic violence at some point in their lives and nearly 1 in 2 men and boys are the victim of sexual assault? Funny how you never heard about those little facts, probably because the don't support the feminist victim narrative.

http://time.com/37337/nearly-half-of-young-men-say-theyve-had-unwanted-sex/

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[–]∞ Mod | TRP Vanguardbsutansalt 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

supporting the claim "women are manipulative liars,"

Where, WHEN, did I say anything to that effect. You don't get to pull strawman arguments here, bub.

[–]TheYellowPill 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'd wager half this subreddit does but never realizes it because you all lack self-awareness

God damn fucking hypocrite! Way to generalize this entire subreddit! See, I can play that bullshit data game as well. Show me facts. I want you to gather a statistically relevant sample size of RedPillers, and then conduct a survey to make this claim. Oh and it should be peer reviewed by hamsters as well as published in r/TheBluePill.

[–]TheYellowPill 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

"Women are inherently more deceitful than men." I don't give a fuck if you're too socially retarded to make that same observation. Of course that last paragraph was generalizing, I intended it to be. Here's another generalization: "Men are inherently larger than females. This should be obvious to anyone who has eyes." Someone call the the "facts" police, because I didn't provide scientific data that men are inherently larger!

As for the 3 to 1 statement, I said "I would wager" = "I'm willing to bet" = "I have no scientific data but I'm hypothesizing". I wasn't trying to claim it as a fact. It is my guess that 3 to 1 females abuse males. If you disagree, great. I pulled that ratio anecdotally i.e. from my personal observation.

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[–]TheYellowPill 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry you were cursed with such an awful brain and a life that led you to become the person you are today. I feel bad for you, but worse for everyone close to you.

I don't think about you at all.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

It seems to me that most TRP posters have been wronged in some way by women or life in general and are trying to reclaim their psychological and sexual sovereignty.

There has never been a survey but I think this is just a myth. Plenty of guys here who just found this sub and things basically clicked (being nice is not a valid sexual strategy, women want a masculine guy etc.).

Loads of guys have been nice guys in the past and just slowly made a change when they found out it wasn't working and on the way found this sub.

Yes there are a couple of people here who have been hurt and have some anger in them but it's hardly a majority. I'd guess it's a small minority.

In my experience most of the guys here are either here because this is one of the only places where you can talk about masculinity and social interactions without having to put the PC filter on or they are here because they are still learning and internalizing some of the info on how the world really works and how you can use it to your advantage.

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[–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Being dumped doesn't mean you have anger in you against women in general. Different people deal differently with how they are treated by the world.

That said it might be a larger portion than I think. We will never know. Still I think the "TRP'ers are angry bitter men" is just way out from the truth. A lot of people her couldn't be much happier.

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[–]Riot101 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Who hasn't had a bad relationship?

[–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There is a difference between having had a bad relationship and afterwards still being "hurt" and angry. The stereotype is that people here are angry at women after being mistreated or some shit. I'd say most people here are not angry or bitter. There are angry and bitter people here which is fine, nothing wrong with needing some time to get over some shit, but I don't think it's a very large group in this sub.

btw. If you were agreeing with me or just making a general statement than disregard this reply. Wasn't really sure how you meant it.

[–]Riot101 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm just saying that I don't think anyone has only had perfect relationships to the point where all of their relationships have been positive and they never felt slighted. Everyone has had a bad break up or someone who toyed with their heart so I'm sure that most of the guys who come to TRP can relate to the ones who come here specifically because the just had a bad break or are in a hard relationship. But yes, I agree most guys here aren't coming off bad break ups and are not still angry or hurt.

[–]CocaineOnThaSink -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think our most vocal guys are the ones who've been hurt. I.E. new posters posting about how they just realized their ex or who ever was a bitch and how they needed to man up. For me, and I also think majority, it was this shit just clicks. This sub only put a face or metaphore to what we already knew.

[–]autowikibot 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Healthy narcissism:


Healthy narcissism is a concept that developed slowly out of the psychoanalytic tradition, and became popular in the late twentieth century.

The healthy narcissist has been characterised as possessing realistic self-esteem without being cut-off from a shared emotional life, as the unhealthy narcissist tends to be.


Interesting: Narcissism | Narcissism | Heinz Kohut | Self-esteem

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[–]Endorsed ContributorDenswend 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Now this is strange.

There is a known fact that contemporary culture is one which men are insecure and confused about what they are, what they should do, masculinity in general. This leads many people to be bitter and angry with their present status. People who would, when acting upon the way their masculine nature is, become happy. But for some strange reason, modern political correctness blocks that from realizing fully (lest your assertive behaviour be considered misogyny).

On the other hand, system kinda needs men to operate efficiently (you ever heard about that badass Matriarchy which went to the moon or produced great works of art? Me neither). Most manginas are men (lol). Much like a self loathing, but still favourably looked upon by his masters "House Negro" he wants to stay in slavery to the present unhappiness but doesn't care about others who might not revel in self loathing, "House Mangina" works under same principles, they even repeat their master's propaganda. Keeping men under "you're going to be fine with a mortgage, a wife who thinks you're reasonably cool" trance.

TRP (like any neoreactionary movement, though I would hardly qualify it as such) contains within itself a dialectic which a progressive cannot cover. Common cries of "muh soggy knee" are neutered here with a healthy does of "pussypass" and actual discussion. They deconstruct the female nature and feminist paradigm, and in order to understand TRP to be able to criticize it in any meaningful way, they must first understand the things that it criticizes.

When you expose TRP to a confused male, when its principles illuminate behaviour which is the very root of his confusion, you have succeeded by default.

OP got gold by shitting all over it, confused men got exposed to it, any by virtue of TRP's nature I'd be willing to bet that roughly third (or more) people actually "subscribed", feminists celebrated a "victory", and TRP was immune from the start from the cries of muh soggy knee and emotional abuse.

Xanatos gambit? You bet your ass OP is one smart guy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's funny that you mention neoreactionary movements. I unplugged after I left the West (I live in Thailand, currently). Physically leaving the USA was the shock I needed to swallow the red pill, but I've discovered that the rabbit hole is much deeper than I initially thought. I was pleasantly surprised after another TRPer linked me to the Dark Enlightenment subreddit and I learned more about it. It's an interesting journey....

[–]Endorsed ContributorDenswend 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Look up Gell-Mann Amnesia. When you understand what's wrong with one facet of status quo, you'll easily understand what's wrong with the rest.

[–]thewhitemexi 15 points15 points15 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I love the members of this sub so much. I'm so happy that the front-page post that could be considered a "calling-out" of TRP has led to some civil and productive arguments. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a mature exchange of ideas on the internet.

[–]Thzae 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know man, that sounds like something that could hurt some feels.

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[–]IN54N3 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for your directness, I rest assured it will be appreciated by the clueless. IMHO he is completely right and even adresses some issues which are not publicly discussed in trp due to certain rules. Reddit is not stupid but most people are clueless.

[–]CallMeMrBadGuy 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He's far from redpill he's just not a reactionary insta-hate like feminists and women/whiteknights who feel offended. Though, he is no less like them by being of virtue that he spouts hopefilled, neutral, "what the world should be in utopia" nonsense. If anything that at least makes him neutral or purple for at least having the gall to admit that yes TRP is right and correct about so many things, but he is not that much different from being BP either with his "you males should be totally nice to those sweet innocent halo-wearing creatures that are women" despite his qualification by saying "some TRPers" his post is still aimed at TRP and trying to link what is considered negative to the entirety of TRP via his presentation and choosing to not actually dole much of the positions that would support TRP in the main post. Plus when I read it thru the guy is about un-TRP as you can get. I doubt he works out, he plays D&D, he hasnt dealt with multiple women in dating, and likely married the first thing that allowed him etc.

TL:DR he's purple and made a big blue argument that was mischaracterizing of red full of just blissfully naively hopeful cliches.

[–]dreckmal 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most liberal Redditors cannot stand the packaging we present TRP in. This guy got gilded by dropping TRP truths in a much prettier package.

See guys, we could all get gilded if we just pussify up the advice.

[–]Plumerian 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I missed it. What is the original thread? Thanks.

[–]Chiptehubah 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn, you put a lot of time into this. Nice work.

You can find at least an inkling of truth everywhere, even in the unwittingly ignorant.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Somehow I am under the impression that TRP profits from this effect: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DONOTDOThisCoolThing

[–]Johnny_Shades 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He's not redpill. He's somewhere between red and blue aka /r/purplepilldebate

[–]baroncuttlefish 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think he just wanted some free reddit gold.

[–]2johnnight 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey, I can whore me out for some sweet reddit gold. All I have to do is poo poo on TRP and drive more subs to TRP?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

hah, I have to agree with you. I wonder if it is intentional.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Turns out he's Christian. Gives us some RP wisdom straight from the bible!

What does that have to do with RP?

[–]geofxc 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The biblical model of marriage is similar to the red pill model of an LTR.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you mean the part where you stone your lady for wearing clothes woven from two different fiber? Or the less sensible stuff?

[–]geofxc 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha I mean the parts about being a strong leader and provider. I prefer the secular version myself, but to each his own.

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[–]dureye 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I always wondered if Woman didn't give up their virginity until marriage , would there be a need for red pill ?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They'd still get some on the side and you'd have even more men raising other men's children, only unknowingly.

[–]assail -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

ITT: reddit discovers reddit /thread

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