Girlfriend all of a sudden doesn't want to swallow anymore.

FrameWalker · 2015-11-10T16:33:46+00:00

I ran into a similar issue with my main plate six weeks ago. She didn't want to suck my cock. The problem is that you've lost your testicles, become feminine or beta, and been too agreeable.

Reading material: 1) marriedredpill top posts of all time. This will teach you how to take am active role in leading the relationship. You can't just lay there and be the alpha bucks/fucks, but you also can't supplicate. There's a certain masculine attitude you can pick up from that sub.

2) Book of pook. Especially read the section on Jerks vs nice guys. It all comes down to being masculine.

3) Twelve steps of dread. Somewhere on the main sub.

Here's the plan I followed ed for myself, modify it for your situation.

First off figure out how to react. Overall she's been good but now she's misbehaving. Don't go nuclear. When she refuses your cum again say oh no problem babe. Give her a quick peck and get dressed. If she says what's wrong just say oh just got a little turned off let's get to sleep. She may reinitiate she may not. Either way act unphased. Decrease your availability and repeat. If you initiate ha rd dread all of a sudden you'll seem reactive so for the first ten days or so be unaffected.

She started giving blowjobs again but she would make comments about her jaw getting tired and was a bit bratty so I continued.

Then you want to time the following with her ovulation. About two weeks before she's fertile stop sleeping over and keep hangouts brief. This lead to enthusiastic blowjobs for me. Then a few days before her fertile window cancel/postpone on her.

Next time you hang out tell her what to wear. In my case it was a certain hairstyle I like a skirt and no panties. I then took her on a long drive and fucked her senseless in the woods. Do something extreme. Actively be the alpha fucks. Give her a reason to tingle. I fucked her extremely hard and had her choking on my cock.

The next weekend I took her out with friends and winged for my friends in front of her. She saw all the girls on me, some of them gridning on me or grabbing my butt for attention. I did this with as much plausible deniability as possible and made sure the girl got plenty of attention from me.

Next day she came over and over and over again. She opened up emotionally big time and was just putty in my arms.

I did a ton of work on myself. I fixed up my home, got a ton of work done, some career advancement, weighed out my macros every day, and picked up a new plate and had some ons.

In essence to cultivate the AF role and regain your masculinity your default stance towards all women is

1) noncompliant 2) disagreeable/confrontational (this is the number one trait women look for in short term partners)
3) unapologetically sexual. Flirt in front of your girl. Say crass things. Dominant forceful sex. You just grab her and take what you want once you're confident she'll enjoy it because of the groundwork you've layed out 4) unavailable

You focus on your needs first. Get yourself the food you need to grow. Clean up your house, etc. Send her home to catch up on sleep.

itsbooming · 2015-11-10T16:38:55+00:00

The best barometer for how well your relationship is doing is the blowjob. Do you get frequent, quality, spontaneous and unasked for blowjobs? Then you're in a relationship that is healthy. And if not healthy at least she's still very much attracted to you wants to please you and keep you around.

RacialRealism · 2015-11-10T20:28:41+00:00

I've had this come up recently too, just do whatever you want in the moment and disregard what she's telling you. If you want to bust a nut on her face just do it without saying a word, 99% of the time the girl won't object. If you ask first though (and she obviously says no because she doesn't want to be perceived as that type of girl), then she will be pissed if you do it anyway. If you just do it they can rationalize it away as "it just happened" or "I had no choice in the matter, it's not my fault".

My old LTR used to never wanted me to cum in her mouth. I would try to explain how much I liked it better cumming with her mouth wrapped my dick, how I didn't see it as disrespectful, and how the taste really isn't that bad, but she still would never budge. We broke up and became FWB and the sex was much more enjoyable after some dread game and dominance on my part. She loves swallowing my cum now despite hating the taste, because I use her to please myself and she gets off on that.

After a while, she shit-tested me with the old "I don't want you to cum on my face anymore". I asked why and she said because it's disrespectful. Rather than launch into a useless conversation explaining how I didn't see it being disrespectful I just changed the subject. The next 5+ times I made it a point that every time I came, it was on her face. I was physically dominant during sex and wouldn't ask for permission for anything, I just pulled out and did it. Any small protests were met with physical correction (ie moving her hand if she put it up, or readjusting head to face me if she tried to pull away). She made the minimum effort physically to show that she "didn't like it" and I corrected it with very little effort. She even looked me in the eyes and pouted when I held her neck with my hand, I just responded with "open your fucking mouth". She loooved that, smiled and complied. The next few times I had no problem doing it. She tried shit testing again, by acknowledging the fact that I was "intentionally making a point to cum on her face every time" since she told me not to. I just grinned like a bastard, kissed her and slapped her ass and went back to watching TV. That was the end of that.

Don't bring it up ever, don't try to discuss it logically, just do it in the moment and never justify your reasons behind it. If she fights it in the moment, adjust accordingly. If she puts up actual resistance that isn't just her ASD kicking in, then don't go and rape her, but don't be afraid to be dominant and use her as you please. This girl loves telling me she's "my fucking whore" now. This is a girl that was a virgin before me and lives in a traditional proper Indian home and believes 100% in equality in the sexes. It doesn't matter how proper a girl is, they love being dominated and used in bed.

rurpe · 2015-11-10T15:25:33+00:00

This is a giant shit test. The next time she tells you where to come, say "No thanks" and leave.

TheBeardedMarxist · 2015-11-10T21:31:17+00:00

I just cum on their face anyways.

nastynickdr · 2015-11-10T15:35:28+00:00

Dont get butthurt about it

You need to increase your attractiveness/SMV. Focus on being a high quality man, get in shape if you are not, and give her some dread game.

kabylewolf · 2015-11-10T16:09:38+00:00

Personally, in these situations. If she's going to play this card. I get very self serving during sex. Fine, she doesn't want to let me get my jollies off out of nowhere? Alright. Fine.

Just have the quickest, least satisfying (for her) sex. I've even just had the girl in my arm and I just jack off and then leave. It drives them fucking CRAZY.

You do your business and leave. Next time you hang out or get intimate. And if she brings that up again, show your disgust then repeat.

Their mentality typically doesn't last long after that. They think they're no longer the shit they once thought they were. And they'll adjust.

RPSigmaStigma · 2015-11-10T17:48:07+00:00

This is a very clear beta tell (meaning, she sees you as beta). In fact, in Rollo's article, he even cites this specifically as an example:

Is she averse or repulsed by your ejaculate being on her skin, in her mouth or overly concerned with soiling a bed sheet?

0io- · 2015-11-11T04:25:14+00:00

You could say "honestly, that's the only way for me to get off and the other stuff doesn't interest me very much."

I had a gf years ago who pulled something like this on me after months of my doing whatever I wanted with her, and it turns out one of her girlfriends told her some bullshit that if you want to cum on her face it means you are into pissing and golden showers or something. So after some reassurance that no, I just like to cum on her face because I think she looks so sexy, it wasn't a problem again.

Ask her to blow bubbles with it or dribble it on her tits if she doesn't want to swallow it right away.

You can also try having some warm wet towels nearby so she can clean up conveniently if it's because she doesn't like it drying out on her skin or something.

You can always suggest that you don't mind cumming in her hair, and for her to let you know when you're about to wash it.

Basically it's just a shit test, and if you lose interest in her rapidly because she can't satisfy you sexually, she will catch on and either try to satisfy you sexually, or you're going to have to spend more time with a better plate. Also you could cum on her tits and her face at the same time, win-win for everybody!

kabylewolf · 2015-11-10T15:34:50+00:00

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OMGTRIGGERED · 2015-11-10T17:48:33+00:00

Put out dread game, follow it up with a light command (i.e. undress), spank her ass if she disobeys and restate your command. If she refuses continue dread until she bends to your frame. Once shes submitted continue to issue a series of commands leading to her sucking your cock, tell her shes gonna swallow. Slap her face lightly if she says no, dont hurt her too much shes american and will claim abuse if it hurts more than a mosquito bite. Repeat your command. Reward with some affection depending on submissiveness.

Pretty simple fix really. Remind her of her place and dont bend by issuing commands. Rewarding with affection is Pavlovian conditioning for later.

The-Ban-Hammer · 2015-11-11T16:31:04+00:00

That's a deal breaker to me, so I understand your perspective. Everybody has something they absolutely want in their sex life, whether it's oral, oral with swallowing, anal, BDSM, etc.

If that is missing in a current relationship, the desire only gets worse. To add insult to injury is when they do what OP's girl is doing – started out doing what he likes, but is now attempting to assert her dominance over him.

It could be because you're not flexing your "alpha muscles" but it could also be her usual MO - bait and trap.

[deleted] · 2015-11-10T22:22:52+00:00

dafuq man. if she got sick of swallowing cum, then thats it. Deal with it .

Title	Girlfriend all of a sudden doesn't want to swallow anymore.
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Date	November 10, 2015 3:09 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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