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3rd sub possibility?

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April 21, 2017
7 upvotes

This is kind of an obscure question but what would the possibility of a 3rd MRP community be?

r/askMRP tends to get flooded with guys introducing themselves. Which is fine. Guys need a victim puke out of the way if they want to take this journey.

My problem (or suspicion) is that because of the nature of this community (fairly aggressive), it doesn't get used to it's fullest potential. It would be nice if guys could come here with a simple question and get straight forward answers. Even advanced guys have questions. Like bogey complaining that he gets too much head (you're still a fuckin piece of shit for that one).

r/marriedredpill is great for theory, advice and FR. r/askMRP would be great with only questions with answers (in "x" situation, would it still be advised not to text?).

I think a sub called say r/MRPintro would be great to filter out the puke that floods this sub. Bare in mind I'm not a mod and don't have the slightest clue what you guys do (presumably it's a pain in the ass). Maybe if you didn't need to moderate the first posts so much and let the wolves have them in a sub geared specifically for that, it would be easier?

Is this possible? Or is it too much work?

Edit: Also if people were encouraged to keep it honest and thorough, it would be a great reference point. You could go back and say "oh ya, u/dicks_in_ass has 3 kids and his wife cheated on him in the early going". That would be beneficial as well.


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Title 3rd sub possibility?
Author drty_pr
Upvotes 7
Comments 16
Date 21 April 2017 01:42 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/206257
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/66p975/3rd_sub_possibility/
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[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy

Having followed this sub for a while, I feel like nearly every post follows this path:

OP: I lift all the time, I have read all the books, I've been hardcore redpiller for years. But i feel insecure, weak, like a pussy. What do you all think?

Replies: Asking for advice is beta. Read the sidebar again and don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks. If you were alpha you wouldn't be posting on this sub. What the fuck is wrong with you?

OP: Thank you, thank you, thank you. That's what I really needed. I'm such a pussy.

[–]SteelToeShitKickerRed Beret5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

OP: I lift all the time, I have read all the books, I've been hardcore redpiller for years.

I want to go to this sub that you speak of.

[–]weakandsensitive3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

No kidding.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

My personal opinion? This place is shit, but it's nice to keep shit out of MRP.

If I were more like WnS, I would delete intro posts, the idea that other guys give a shit who we all are is asinine... I'd rather they lead with the problem, what they are trying to accomplish, then enough context to give actionable advice.

So for a third sub? It would have to be for something more.

TRP sexual strategy, Plates and general stuff
ATRP AFC's to ask dumb shit questions they should know already
MRP guys in Hard mode strategy
AMRP guys who are too weak to be on hard mode yet
PPD women to bitch and moan about TRP/MRP
TBP voyers to complain about MRP/TRP while flicking the bean
TYP Abdada telling you to stop buying so much dumb shit

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

TBP voyeurs to complain about MRP/TRP while flicking the bean

This just conjured up an image of a 3rd wave, post-wall, entitled, delusional, hairy, ANTIFA-fascist bitch.

[–]anythingincRed Beret3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think a sub called say r/MRPintro would be great to filter out the puke that floods this sub.

Solution looking for a problem. A few puke/intro question posts get moved from MRP to AMRP every week, no biggie. A lot of first posts happen in OYS, great, indeed it is encouraged. Then if you feel you need more attention than an OYS post gets then ask away at AMRP. I think puke is great here though, it is what we do.

Both subs can go a day or two without a new post so it is not like we are overrun.

https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/3h0uv8/meta_subreddit_fragmentation/

A year ago Jackten mentions that he replies to mostly the following types of posts:

A. Questions seeking help. A guy posting about his personal circumstances and marriage, and seeking insight or advice from the MRP community at-large. This is further sub-categorized as:

  • A1. The full victim-puke. A guy stumbles in here, no sidebar reading, barely any clue about TRP, dumping his entire life story and wondering why his wife stopped fucking his beta ass.

  • A2. The misguided approach. A guy part-way through unplugging, hits some roadblock in his marriage. Such as self-improvement isn't yielding more sex, or he's struggling to determine Shit vs Comfort Tests, or there's some family logistical problem is making it especially hard to maintain frame. There is an understanding of fundamental Red Pill principles, but the OP can't quite figure out how to apply them to his own circumstances.

  • A3. The legitimate conundrum. A fully unplugged guy with a pretty unique scenario, almost presented as a thought exercise. A good recent example is /u/TrainingTheBrain's recent issues in his marriage.

Those posts get moved to, or are encouraged to be posted in the "bullshit sub," AMRP, but once they were there, they didn't get any replies.

Coincidentally, I also mostly respond to those types of posts, and I kinda agree that it sucks that the dudes that need help are moved from a sub that is ostensibly full of 12,000 "woke" subscribers to 2,700 "newb" subscribers.

That said, I feel that the mod team must be doing a better job than a year ago, because I don't feel like men are getting short-changed by posting in AMRP, and I feel like almost all of jack's "A123" posts are moved to AMRP. I see the same seasoned names posting in both subs, I see a few Red Berets in every post. I don't think the post is limited by lack of views, it is more often limited by lack of OP participation. Regardless, posts often hit 60-70 replies in AMRP. If a post doesn't get many replies it is because it was super low effort, or somebody nailed a comment and its singularity and up-votes serve to amplify the message to OP. In MRP you might get an opportunity to post a couple times a week, the guys that want to post and want to help are going to find AMRP and help people. The ubiquitousness of the TRP/ATRP dichotomy also highlights and foreshadows our MRP/AMRP dichotomy for the men that find us.

When AMRP turns into ATRP, with 30K subscribers and 50 posts a day with 99% of the replies being pithy comments and "NEXT, lift, sidebar," then we will have a problem that needs a solution, assuming we don't have enough experienced posters and mods to handle the volume..but maybe we will, see you there.

Maybe if you didn't need to moderate the first posts so much and let the wolves have them in a sub geared specifically for that, it would be easier?

OYS is pretty friendly, people respect the guys making that effort, and there is a lot of empathy in there. Step out of there with some weak shit and you deserve some lumps. It's at the top of MRP, in red.

But I don't get any replies in OYS

Yeah, and like you just said u/drty_pr, you don't want those replies...because some will be "the wolves."

That said, AMRP, isn't all wolves, there is a lot of empathy in there too, sometimes provided by me in particular. And you wanted replies anyway right? So they are going to run the spectrum. You ever spilled your guts to a group of buddies? One is going to hug you, one is going to tell you what you want to hear, one is going to give you some advice, and one is going to kick you in your balls and laugh....you need all of them.

You seem to think we are running people away with AMRP wolves and moderation, but I think the mods et al do a good job of sending those people to OYS, or they read and internalize and try again. OPs delete more shit than the mods ever have. That urge to puke, followed by the urge to delete out of shame or rage or ego..those urges are what lead to change and action.

the puke that floods this sub.

I think puke is great here though, it is what we do. Plus, I need to read it. I need to remember what my past was like. I need to remember what the alternative is like. Good field reports do not motivate me at all, I'm living them, how could they motivate me?...but puke, puke motivates me because I REMEMBER, and I am reminded that I can't go back, the results are in front of me, 1000s of words, no paragraphs, no joy, no respect, no sex.

[–]drty_prRed Beret[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good point man.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Many subs do stickied intro posts, that might be a possibility. But I'm not really sure it matters.

Post flair is an option, too

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Meh. no.

It would create more confusion and really loud white noise.

Everyone coming in here has no speshul shituashons. They have specific barriers that are treated the same way in theory. The practice is up to the man.

Logistic questions can be handled in either of the mrp subs at this point.

Less is more.

[–]trp_ocd11 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Meh. no.

It would create more confusion and really loud white noise.

Everyone coming in here has no speshul shituashons. They have specific barriers that are treated the same way in theory. The practice is up to the man.

Agreed, more subs would detract from the needle point RP truth brings, no matter how the complainer tries to frame the road block. The OP does bring up a point, however.

Too many newbies, or maybe trolls, either posting or trying to give advice, and it really dilutes the message. I think an idea like, reporting more violating comments and posts may help, although increase the mod burden. Not saying report mean responses, just the useless ones...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

same issue, new day.

Isolation of the problem doesn't remove the problem.

Treat newbs like you treat newbs, let the sink or swim with minimal pointers until they show effort

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I more agree with /u/jacktenofhearts that combining everything into one sub would yield better results

https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/3h0uv8/meta_subreddit_fragmentation/

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

OYS is the official 3rd sub, right?

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That is certainly the intent.

[–]BobbyPeru0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It would just turn into what we already have with AMRP.

But, I have thought there should be a sub for guys over a certain age, maybe 35-40. Not necessarily a MRP sub thread, but just a general TRP 35+, where both single and guys in LTR's would post. I think a 40 yr old guy is generally dealing with a lot different set of challenges than a 20 yr old (life in general context, not AWALT context).

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I looked.

I don't have any hugs nor fucks to give.



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