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Crossing boundaries

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January 28, 2017


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Title Crossing boundaries
Upvotes 7
Comments 15
Date 28 January 2017 07:24 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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[–]nastynickdrRed Beret6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Imagine a mom with her kid is at walmart. The kid is being a complete brat, bouncing around, running around, touching things, dropping stuff on the ground, etc. Mom gets angry and mad, shouts at him, he keeps doing it. Tries to negotiate with him "Stop doing this and you can have some candy", he has the candy but doesnt stop doing it. She then tries to reason "Why are you doing this to mommy? Mommy gets very upset when you do this. Do you like to see mom sad? If you loved mommy you wouldnt do it!". Kid keeps doing it.

Now enters daddy. Kid behaves the same way. Dad states, in a calm and firm tone "If you dont behave you are gonna be one week without your xbox". Kid keeps doing it. At home, daddy tells him "You misbehaved at the store so you are gonna be one week without your xbox". Kid starts screaming, throws a tantrum, "I hate you!" "You dont love me!". Dad calmly gives him a kiss on the forehead, doesnt DEER, doesnt allow himself to be manipulated, completely unnafected, grabs his xbox, locks it away and gives him back one week later. Now the kid knows there are consequences if he misbehaves.

Now, your wife, the oldest teenager in the house. She acts bad,you punish her. What are your cards to punish her? Time, attention, affection, commitment. She acts like a bitch, you punish her by withdrawing those, in a non butthurt way, completely unnafected. You have more important stuff to do than being around an unpleasant bitch. You dont DEER, you dont get butthurt, you dont let her bad mood affect you. Punish her when she acts bad, reward her when she acts good. This is well explained in MMSLP. Improve yourself, works towards being a high quality man (sidebar explains how), hold frame, work on having outcome independence, and, if things dont improve, dont forget you can always walk.

[–]OldRoke0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Excellent response, thanks for that.

[–]Sapphire_Jizz3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

She probably doesn't treat anyone in the whole wide world with as much consistent disrespect as you. Not her Mom, not the random bitches she hates, not the mailman, not the barista, not even an ant. You've allowed -- enabled -- her to do this.

How would you treat anyone other than your wife if they acted like your she did toward you? Don't over-think this, take your initial gut reaction. When she behaves as such, treat her as if she was any other fucking person in the world, because that's what she is -- just some basic bitch who thinks she has you by the balls.

Two things are of the utmost importance here: 1. when she behaves with disrespect, your resulting actions of detachment and distance (cuz that's what we do to people who disrespect and insult us) are 100% organically in your self-interest and congruent. Out of her shitty frame, into yours. You actions are guided by your own motives, not hers. And 2. you must be willing to leave her. If she believes that you will never leave her, you will never get the treatment from her (or any woman) that you really desire. Abundance and outcome independence. And, honestly, it sounds like your kids are in a toxic environment half the time anyway, you whole family would probably be better off tomorrow if one of you two just got the fuck out.

[–]BrazilRedPill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, good advice here.

Also, when she disrespects you in front of the kids, state that she can't take out your authority from the kids. Then, without the kids around, pass shit tests.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

First of all, cut the fag shit

Look up self respect. Then respect. When you decide you want some, do something about it. Don't come here and expect us to give you a play by play. In reality, you won't set boundaries.

Side bar and lift. Quit the self deflating shit. You are a Fucking man

[–]ParadoxThatDrivesUs0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I told my wife in a calm moment that the next time it happens we're on the road to divorce. I meant it. It worked.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

State your consequences then make them happen. Meanwhile take your kids and go do something that's fun and good for them.

[–]The_LitzRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Your self depreciation is apparent, even in this post. Stop doing that and maybe, just maybe you have a chance of saving yourself.

Once you have reached that point you can start changing your situation with your wife.

[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Are you willing to divorce her? Because until you're willing to give it all up you have neither the balls nor the will to enforce boundaries.

My wife gets the benefit of one warning. Then she gets papers.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

but understands the need for the boundary from previous discussion

It's always nice when women say they understand what you mean from a conversation. Talks always seem to work so well. Why don't we use them more often?

[–]SepeanRed Beret-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I scolded her as the oldest child and broken recorded while she tried to hamster pivot to other hot topics. I calmly repeated the boundary several times but she never fully acknowledged the boundary (primarily because the children were in earshot) but understands the need for the boundary from previous discussion.

Scolding doesn't work. Broken record is not for something like this. I have no idea what you mean by she understands the need for the boundary, this is not some rational discourse it is a power play.

You sound very butthurt over how she treats you. But look, bro, fair doesn't enter into it. Women respect frame and SMV and shits on men who don't have it.

Stop scolding and expecting anything from her and go with this

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

She's not the "biggest child" in your house, she's your partner. Your wife is a bad partner but she's a partner nonetheless.

She probably doesn't realize this but badmouthing you in front of the kids hurts your kids the most. So she's not just being a bad wife, she's also a bad mother.

Finally I don't get why you've got to use "faggot." Lots of gay alpha men out there who are stronger more secure people then you. Why denigrate them? Work on yourself.

Hope that helps.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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