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[–]Aaren_Augustine11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What is a reasonable expectation for sex with a dead bedroom when starting out?
Zero expectations. Your wife will participate or she won't when you initiate. You must focus on improving yourself for yourself, not for the expectation that your wife will fuck you.
Lift, succeed, dominate.
[–]SexistFlyingPig11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are missing the point.
Two bulls standing on top of the hill are looking down at a herd of cows. The young bull says to the old bull, "Let's run down there and fuck one of those cows!" The old bull replies, "Let's walk down there and fuck all the cows."
Your goal is to get yourself put together enough that lots of women find you attractive. Step zero is to lift and to improve your wardrobe. Also improve your hygiene: shower, deodorant, shave or groom your beard. This will give you confidence. Confidence is attractive.
While working on yourself, you also need to right the ship of your marriage. You need to decide where you are going and how you are going to get there. You are the captain of the ship. You are the responsible one. Your wife should be your first mate. You should give her responsibilities, but you should be the director, the leader, the captain of the ship.
[–]The_LitzRed Beret5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How long is a piece of rope?
Build yourself without expectation. And if in doubt, tons of guys including myself came over from Deadbedrooms and are reaping the rewards. Am I getting enough sex? No. Am I getting way more sex, bj's and attention than before RP? Yes.
Initially most guys have NOOB gains. New found confidence and a can do attitude. Then the wife will increase the testing to see if you are for real or faking it. You will have many ups and downs, and sex will vary accordingly.
Some wives will hand over the wheel with pleasure, others will fight to the last drop of blood to stay in control.
[–]redearththeory3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Your expectation is a covert contract, drop it completely as its part of your problem.
Make progress until you're hot, which is probably 6 months if you work hard.
[–]logger1234 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
yes, this.
Look, I get the hook of MRP is more sex, but there is no promise of it with your wife, especially not anytime soon. The 12 steps of dred end up with you leaving and getting some strange. This could happen. The first 11 steps are everything you can to up to that in order to keep that more sex with your wife.
A /general/ rule of thumb is no real results for one month per year of blue pill lifestyle, but if she's bipolor (not manic/depressed, but instead depressed/angry) or borderline, you might never see results.
So the /reality/ of MRP is not more sex, but a better you leads to a better life. Then you need to decide if sex is worth nuking the marriage. If it is for you, we won't judge you, and yes, you can get more sex at that point.
I would suggest bluepillprof's book for you at this point -
https://www.amazon.com/Saving-Low-Sex-Marriage-Seduction-ebook/dp/B01BGZO1WK
It's cheap on kindle and very prescriptive. You may find yourself reading it more than once. That's good. My first blow-through reading had me missing key points.
[–]NONO2262 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i asked this same question just recently and received perfect feedback. heres the link so you can see how everyone responded. https://www.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/5dl0bo/if_awalt_when_can_one_reasonably_expect_to_see_a/
[–]onmyownpath1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Initiate anytime you want to fuck.
[–]ford_contourRed Beret0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is good advice, but it's only applicable after the mirror check "Would I fuck me?" comes back with at least a "maybe". Any earlier and it's a waste of time.
[–]SepeanRed Beret1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It depends on your starting point, how quickly you learn, how disciplined you are, your potential, and your wife. Most guys who apply themselves see results in 2 weeks to 12 months.
[–]SampsonBrass 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
in your case, who the hell knows? Not everyone starts from the same point and you don't provide much information.
[–]Thomaskingo 2 points2 points2 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Well MRP can almost guarantee you regular sex and a happy relationship within 6 months to a couple of years. The thing is though, that MRP can't guarantee it'll be with the woman you're currently married. Sometimes, it just doesn't work out, because it simply can't, but you can grow and move on.
[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Have an upvote kind stranger. Seems like you get it.
[–]stonepimpletilists 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
/u/fuckmrp finally changed accounts I guess
[–]fuckmrpRed Beret0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Come on, he didn't even call him a pussy. I'm still around, just busy as fuck.
[–]ex_addict_broRed Beret1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
Stand in the front of a mirror, undress. Say loudly "would I fuck me?" and meditate on this question for a moment. No need to tuck it between your legs.
EDIT: If you meditated properly, this also should give you answers on "am I lifting often enough", "is my lifting routine proper", "is my diet helping me reach my fitness goals", "should I start another family alpha blog", "should I STFU and lift" and all this kind of stuff.
[–]Thomaskingo 1 points1 points1 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
"should I start another family alpha blog"
Can't have enough of those!
[–]ex_addict_broRed Beret1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Would you do you?
[–]Thomaskingo1 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
TheThomaskingoAlpha?
[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So many answers with only a 1 minute routine.
[–]ex_addict_broRed Beret0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Try it today.
[–]TheFamilyAlpha -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When you're sexy.
How long does that take?
How fat and insecure are you?
https://thefamilyalpha.com/2015/11/17/10-ways-to-keep-your-wife-on-her-toes/
https://thefamilyalpha.com/2015/12/30/creating-your-slut/
https://thefamilyalpha.com/2016/02/15/lifting-is-step-1-towards-reclaiming-your-masculinity/
https://thefamilyalpha.com/2016/09/06/are-you-a-funny-fat-guy/
https://thefamilyalpha.com/2016/10/25/stop-being-a-clown/
https://thefamilyalpha.com/2016/09/20/break-the-mold/
https://thefamilyalpha.com/2016/11/16/burn-your-ship/
https://thefamilyalpha.com/2015/11/24/action-not-vows-is-what-your-marriage-needs/
https://thefamilyalpha.com/2015/12/15/be-unpredictable/
https://thefamilyalpha.com/2016/01/09/sex-marriage/
[–]GargantuaBlarg29 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How does the answer matter?
[–]WesternhagenWinner2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He wants to know how long he should wait before giving up on lifting, reading, and making himself better. When he hits the magic number of days then he will consider relapsing into apathy fully justified. ("Those guys said she'd fuck me after 37 days and it's day 40 so the hell with it, pass the donuts.")
[–]screechhaterRed Beret-1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"reasonable expectation for sex with a dead bedroom when starting out"
depends - what the fuck did you not do to get to the DB ?
Lack of shower and she can smell your rot ?
Lack of manners ?
Weak leadership ?
etc, etc, etc................
Reading identifies this - then you might clearly see that the time it took to the DB cannot be magically waived over. Also know as she wants some consistency in your improvement
Glad your lifting.....
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