Girls consistently do better in school than boys, despite boys' higher level of natural ability. (xpost from /r/science)

RedBigMan · 2014-05-01T12:56:58+00:00

Anything that involves telling children (especially boys) to sit down, hold still and shut up is doomed to failure.

Why else do you think that public education in the USA is cratering?

trpMilo · 2014-05-01T16:07:49+00:00

I took AP and Honors classes in high school, and while I and many of my male peers would routinely blow off homework assignments and hand in sloppy projects, girls just always seemed to take things so seriously. Same was true in college. It's like they don't understand what work is meaningful and what work is busy-work. They treated it all the same.

As such my male peers were always the intellectual heavyweights, drove class discussions when anything interesting was discussed, and in college girls always went to guys for homework help. But the girls still got better grades. You just can't beat the work ethic caused by the typical girl's mindless, blissful ignorance of the meaningless hoops they're jumping through.

TehFuggernaut · 2014-05-01T14:33:53+00:00

There's a few reasons for this. And since we are objective, we can all admit that girls develop faster and develop their language / reading abilities earlier in boys for a variety of biological reasons. No point denying that; this is not all societal.

But beyond that, most of it is. I will do whatever I have to do send my kids to a private school for this reason, and I will not have kids if I do not project having the income to do that. I am not letting my child's self-confidence / healthy bit of rebelliousness / positive perception of himself slowly get eroded by years of essentially supplication. That is how you do well in school; you just stop thinking for yourself and do what the usually female authority says to do, and stifle all of your natural male characteristics.

BoyMeetsHarem · 2014-05-01T12:43:00+00:00

“School marks reflect learning in the larger social context of the classroom and require effort and persistence over long periods of time, whereas standardized tests assess basic or specialized academic abilities and aptitudes at one point in time without social influences.”

Translation: A teacher's perception of you has a huge impact on your grade in school, and girls are consistently given better marks over time than what standardized achievement tests would predict they deserve.

Another widespread example of the pussy pass.

SillyAmerican · 2014-05-01T13:12:15+00:00

That's a feature, not a bug. It was designed that way. The system is now rigged in favor of women. It's all about population control; they have to the men up for failure to make them less desirable to the women. It's an alternative to killing them off in a war.

Mr_Mori · 2014-05-01T14:43:25+00:00

Well, when the entirety of the educational atmosphere is being set-up in a very feminized fashion, it's no wonder boys are actually starting to fall behind.

Remove competition. Reward all regardless of effort or success.

Boys and young male teens want hands-on work.

They want to look someone else in the eyes and see who does better than the other.

They want an educational rival to better themselves against.

None of this exists anymore. All of it has been replaced with rigid itineraries and set-in-stone 'teaching plans'.

But I'll stop here... my MRA is showing...

cooltrip · 2014-05-01T15:27:51+00:00

Never forget this simple principle: Men create and make; women use.

It applies both for technology and science.

aaron_the_just · 2014-05-01T15:36:03+00:00

Males always had greater variance in academic performance. There are more boys at both ends, both the top performers and the drop outs / social deviants. I have noticed that schools have started teaching towards the mean, which effectively chops of the fat tail on top. The brightest students effortlessly gets 100s on all their exams, so the magnitude of the outperformance of the top boys have been masked by the decreasing difficulty of exams. This effect is most obvious when girls supposedly do better than boys in math and science in the classroom, but the far more difficult SAT tests show that boys outperform girls. It is very different when the test is designed so that the average student only gets something like 60% of the questions right and many of them cannot even finish the exam on time, as opposed to a test where the average student gets 85% of the questions right and has 2x more time than necessary. It allows room for the top students to demonstrate their out performance. It's a side effect of national policy ("No child left behind").

I've also noticed that weighting of the school curriculum has changed greatly over time. Many of the "shop" classes have been cut (wood working, home economics, etc) or they've simply become pass/fail type activities (if you show up, you get an A) when they are actually very indicative of whether a student would become a well functioning. I understand why they have fallen out of favor, they are things that are difficult to measure (can't have a standardized test, etc) and therefore hard to justify to budget committees. It's easier to make kids learn a foreign language (99% of them memorize enough words to pass the test, but they cannot even carry a conversation with a 5 year old in that language, meaning it is actually completely useless). Extremely useful courses such as economics and finance are typically nowhere to be found in the public high school curriculum. Only those in private schools are the elite school districts receiver proper education in those subjects.

Public schools are no longer cultivating the best talent, rather their goal is to create the largest number of well-adjusted people (i.e. as many "average" people as possible). A lot of people who have high academic grades merely imitate intelligence. They go around citing statistics and the latest blog that they read, and they are incapable of doing their own analysis or forming their own ideas. You can hit them in the face with a brick of evidence and they drone off "citation needed, citation needed". Then you realize you can write a blog and send them that link and they'll accept it in that format. It is also why very few people raised in the U.S. will start or run their own small business. Most of the small businesses (restaurants, hair salons, dry cleaners, etc) are started and run by immigrants.

2014-05-01T13:38:14+00:00

Sitting in a class about a fraction as efficient as acquiring any skill on your own. This is why higher education isn't based around classes.

Lower and middle education is plagued with historical baggage, politics and poor social makeup. It would be better to replace this model at its foundation.

Meanwhile I don't think you should send any boy you have to a public school, and If there is no better alternative (home schooling isn't a good idea IMO) try to do damage control.

xantris · 2014-05-01T15:16:08+00:00

My experience is that women and girls excel at things like writing reports, giving presentations, writing documentation, and taking non-practical tests. These are all things that academia stresses when given grades.

But when you have a real practical problem, or when shit hits the fan, or when you need to innovate instead of imitate, or you need to build something from scratch... That's where boys/men shine. These virtues are extremely useful in real environments, but not in school.

Ochreata · 2014-05-01T17:03:41+00:00

The "education" system was designed and implemented with the express purpose of creating loyal soldiers in Prussia after their defeat at the battle of Jena in 1806. It's true father is Johann Gottlieb Fichte, a Prussian nationalistic philosopher, who’s most telling quote is probably; “ If you want to influence [the student] at all, you must do more than merely talk to him; you must fashion him, and fashion him in such a way that he simply cannot will otherwise than what you wish him to will.”

Thanks to that schooling system by the mid 1800s Prussia was an expanding empire that was getting lots of visits from others countries to learn about their education regime. Almost all of the western nations implemented the Prussian system as well as Japan which also adopted the Prussian constitution wholesale. No points to realise what the most zealous countries ended up like…..Germany…Japan…

The schooling system is a three tiered system with the top elite policy makers going to Akadamiensschulen. The second tier Realsschulen is for the professional classes, doctors, engineers etc. And last and very least is Volksschulen, for the plebs. Volksschulen, and to a large degree Realsschulen, are designed to remove critical thinking and curiosity from the individuals. Its purpose is to create societal worker bees and drones. The system creates a cult of authority that perpetuates the violent control system of Statism as well as the messy Kantian sciences. Ad verecundiam with a dash of Ad Baculum and no-one is the wiser…..

2014-05-01T21:53:56+00:00

Maybe I missed it but I didn't see anything in this article that showed boys have a higher natural ability.

aaron_the_just · 2014-05-02T06:48:27+00:00

Girls got better grades (meaningless)

Boys did better on aptitude tests (objective)

Title	Girls consistently do better in school than boys, despite boys' higher level of natural ability. (xpost from /r/science)
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