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Challenge a Shit Test?

by red_mainframe | July 18, 2019 | askMRP

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Title Challenge a Shit Test?
Author red_mainframe
Upvotes 19
Comments 38
Date 18 July 2019 07:59 PM UTC (11 months ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/246762
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/cexekx/challenge_a_shit_test/
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[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret18 points19 points  (16 children) | Copy

You need to continue your sidebar progress. You'll find that your response to this shit test is not a challenge, but a mix of Amused Mastery and Agree & Amplify. Read WISNIFG.

You don't challenge tests, you pass them.

I think in this case you passed.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy

I feel like a good pressure flip would work here too. I am still fucking horrendous with these.

Anyone here a master of PF's and have a good one for this situation?

Best I could come up with on the fly is:

"Hah, you are just saying that so I don't make you look bad by comparison huh?"

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy

Not really a good pressure flip question as it's a double bind.

Double bind = no right answer

Because any answer she would shit test again.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (7 children) | Copy

You could go full retard mode. "Who gives a fuck what you like. If I want your opinion I'll take my dick out of your mouth. "

[–]IncitingDramah3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

When I go full retard my line is "if I wanted any shit from you, I'll get it off the head of my dick".

Sometimes going full retard is worth it.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

You NEVER go full retard, man.

[–]coinbaserep1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yes, that would be retarded.

And quite hilarious if OP said it.

But still retarded.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sometimes I say retarded shit. Hense the flair

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

upvote for speaking the truth bro.

[–]weakandsensitive1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Frame dominance -- Careful - the volume's ridiculously loud.

[–]mitch2you803 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Negative inquiry is a little better than PF here. But AA&AM are almost always the KISS answer. All responses given with a huge grin. NI "what is is about skinny guys you don't like?" AA " I don't know, I'm going for a size zero, but I'm worried my hips are too wide no matter what I do" AM Whatever sarcastic thought comes to mind IE "yeah, if I ever had to survive with a skinny guy, he'd probably be the first to go down." and then swiftly move on to the next topic

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah that is much better.

[–]FereallyRedHard Core Red9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Directly replying to a test gives her power in that you're taking what she says seriously and engaging her.

She hasn't earned that right to challenge the captain yet.

So, no, don't give her words influence nor weight.

You're doing this for you, right?

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

Contrary to the comments so far, I don’t view this as a shit test. I believe it’s a comfort test. She wants to keep being a SAHM for kids in high school without the threat of a hotter woman who actually adds value. So, when you start getting leaner, it scares her in this way (threatens her security if OP’s SMV goes up too much).. She sees you getting momentum, and if you are making $, hot women for sure will hit on you when you get lean. Your lifts are decent, but you have way more than 15 to lose at 5’7”.

Do it for yourself

As far as your response, AM is your best bet. Chuckle and say “you think so?” If she keeps pushing fog and pressure flip it.... if you’re not advanced enough for those, just STFU. Then keep Your foot on the gas.

[–]Cam_Winston213 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Your lifts are decent, but you have way more than 15 to lose at 5’7”.

5'7" and 202 lbs.
Either the wife is a land whale who doesn't want to worry about her fat husband getting less fat & having options or OP is kidding himself because there is no way anyone with those numbers would hear "skinny" and take it seriously.

On your side, OP, but you're closer to 'obese' than 'skinny'. Continue your progress, she'll either join you or she won't.

[–]will-reddit-for-food0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh definitely a comfort test. She’s jealous.

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Her. You know I don't like skinny guys

Me. That's cool. Maggie does.

(doesn't matter who Maggie is)


You've not studied enough. STFU is your response if you can't manage AM or AA

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude, I would get a super pissed wife but crazy sex at night.

Edit: stealing this.

[–]Mrmlap5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't overthink it. Stay the course. Repeat. Eventually your better body and dgaf should pay off.

[–]useful_stranger8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

The latter. By definition the shit test if taken seriously is failed. You lose attraction. The shit test if responded to appropriately will increase attraction: amused mastery , exaggeration, (agree&amplify) etc.

The shit test must be seen as an invitation to tease her and flirt with her. Hit on her. It’s her way of saying “hey I am noticing you. Now let me throw this curve ball womanese feminine energy at you to see if you know how to deal with it and if you’re Man enough.”

Have fun.

[–]Big_Daddy_PDX3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You don’t reason with a woman. Don’t listen to what she says; watch what she does.

FYI you should start her back to work.

[–]IncitingDramah2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Her: you know I dont like skinny guys

Me: I'm more than just a peice of meat you know. (Said with a grin)

Or

STFU and ignore her. Dont let it rattle you.

Best way to start handling shit tests is STFU and dont acknowledge it if you dont have anything fun/witty to say.

Other comments are right though, you dont understand the concept of shit tests. Go back and reread them. Also, theres a link for a encyclopedia of them. If I dig it up I'll edit and share it.

Edit: found it. Read this to help. But also reread NMMNG

https://www.google.com/amp/s/illimitablemen.com/2014/12/14/the-shit-test-encyclopedia/amp/

[–]redismyfuture3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy

So, had the same thing happen to me. Started bulking (for my puny frame) and added some mass and after a 6 month bulk, I decided to cut a little. Got the same thing "don't loose to much, I don't like soy boys.". Obvious shit test and just ignored her.

Go on another 5 month bulk cycle and 3 weeks before we leave for Vegas I go into another cut. I wanted sub 10% bf while there. However, this time not negative word is said. She's rubbing my abs, tracing her finger on my Apollo belt, and posting pictures of us in bathing suits on her gram. Probably the horniest I've ever seen her. Funny thing is, I'm lower bf now than I was after the first cut.

Also, in the beginning (like month or 2 into lifting) she asks me, how big do you plan on getting? Maybe a shit test, but she asked nice enough, so I directly answered "Not sure, I've never tried to get big.". She replied "well don't get too big, I don't like beefy men". I shrugged and walked away since it turned into a shit test.

Now, she runs my arms and touches my chest daily. Poor thing, she just can't help herself but to swolest me.

Morale of the story is, stop listening to her words.

[–]FoxShitNasty832 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wheymen

[–]hack3geRed Beret1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I love the “Don’t get too big - I don’t like that.” Pussy says otherwise when it’s dripping wet after you pick her up over your shoulder and drop her on the bed.

[–]coinbaserep0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

That shouldn’t be too hard for most guys unless she’s 250lbs

Then best not to risk blowing out your back

[–]hack3geRed Beret1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

True - OP has decent lifts however his real issue is his frame is basically just the bar.

[–]coinbaserep0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

He’s a beast.

I’d love to put up that much weight.

His OHP is impressive

[–]mrp_awakening1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, every woman says that shit and then starts eyefucking you when the abs come out. My wife did too. DEERing is the worst thing you can do. Your response looks like a mild excuse/explain, but wasn't terrible. But you are talking too much. Just show you're not in her frame, and that you're OI enough where you don't care if she doesn't find you attractive (hint: this implies abundance and is very attractive). Better things:

STFU: Just say "yeah ok babe", and change subject.
Deflect: "I don't care/So what/That's cool" optionally adding "this is something I want to do/something for me". Change subject: "Aww... you're so cute when you get like this"

[–]470_2_700_nm0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Who hasn’t gotten this one I love it.

Then when balls deep they are grabbing your pecs and arms and ass. So I’d just leave it as is until I was fucking her again and hen ask her about it when fucking and she is grabbing you.

Hilarious.

Here at MRP we know the magic body fat range. We know lean muscle mass has power (yields options).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Im not trying to be skinny.. im trying to be the strongest man I know

[–]sidepiecebandit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"How much weight are you going to lose? You know I don't like skinny guys."

Why do you care? Are you doing this for you or for her? Just ignore or laugh it off. Use amused mastery " you don't like it, but my girlfriend does." She might laugh, she might call you an asshole. Either way, who cares. Your map is the only arbiter of what is and isn't acceptable.

[–]ChokingDownRPRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"Don't worry babe, even if I drop a few pounds this will still be nice and thick"

[–]i-am-the-prize0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I got this a few months back, "you know, I'm not into guys that look too skinny" (I am not too skinny now. But I was obese 2 years ago, as in nearly 50% BF, as my post history will show, she is still over weight now (we were the fat couple) but finally losing weight - she started dieting after she realized my change wasn't a fluke and my SMV rise has crushed hers) so this wasn't about my being too skinny, this was about me being thinner than her and no longer having control / the Sole Agency of the Pussy, dread, etc, etc.

Then this past weekend, I jumped out of the shower, and I saw her sneaking glaces when I was toweling off, having just got back from the gym I had the "pump" after a strong workout, so my lower BF (about 13-14% now) and muscle gains in 2019, were max'd with the pump.

Not a hour later, I got the "you know, I'm not into guys that look like body builder types" (immediately thought: I'm no way near a body builder, WTF is she thinking, then realized - stop, just like before, this isn't about logic)

My answer was similar, I believe, both times, with a sly smile of course: "that's a shame... because I feel even better than I look"

Either version of this "new me" was a better specimen than the old me. So don't hamster on "why isn't she happy for me" or any other logical lack of supportive BS. Dont' look for compliments (no external validation). You know you look good. Period. She'll hamster on being lower SMV compared to the new you, and how this newer/higher SMV you changes the power dynamic in your relationship. Remember, females are good at non verbal comms, and how you present to the world is in that domain. .



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