[Q4All] Which views do you strongly hold that are opposite of where you stand on BP vs RP?

apube · 2015-12-26T07:34:16+00:00

Hmm, maybe not really what you're looking for, but the first thing that jumped out at me would be having a serious problem if my partner was unwilling to do some sort of sexual act for me that they did with another partner. Don't get me wrong, I firmly believe that a woman should have complete sexual agency and doing an act in the past does not mean she has to be down to do it forever. But, personally, it would rub me the wrong way and could definitely be indicative of her being less sexually attracted to me than she was to her previous partner. This is also assuming that she didn't try it with her previous partner and just found that she didn't like it.

I completely understand why a guy would be upset to find that his girlfriend enthusiastically engaged in say, anal sex with her ex, but refused it with him. I don't think his girlfriend is obliged to do it with him in that situation, but if the guy left her to find a girl who didn't make him feel less sexually attractive than her ex, I would understand that.

whatmot · 2015-12-26T08:27:19+00:00

I like that red pill teaches men to dominate women. I think it's natural.

But I don't like the idea of "spinning plates". I still prefer monogamy, not just for my own sake but for the girl's. I think if a girl really liked me (and I liked her), I would be betraying her to then give myself away to another girl.

appencapn · 2015-12-26T12:14:28+00:00

I don't agree with most redpill standpoints but I believe attractiveness is kind of decided at birth and that men are more interested in looks and youth than anything else when it comes to how they view women. However I view this kind of natural emphasis on beauty as destructive and it should be restrained

KareemAZ · 2015-12-26T14:41:18+00:00

Basically all of the red-pill beliefs that don't discuss womens roles.

All that "Be the best you that you can be" stuff is pretty important to keep in mind, helped me lose weight, take care of my appearance and gain a lot of confidence.

TheGreasyPole · 2015-12-26T19:22:02+00:00

For me the notion that when women have ONS they invariably have them with attractive Chad like figures.

In my experience, it's rarely the much more attractive males the females go for in this scenario. In my experience they are usually drunk and horny... And simply chose to go with the lucky guy who made his move at the right time (I.e. When she was drunk and horny).

Attractiveness helps in this scenario, but there are plenty of women out there who can attest that they've woken up next to guys who emerge very much NOT chads, and not even guys they'd normally have considered attractive.

alreadyredschool · 2015-12-26T18:19:17+00:00

I don't agree with the average twerps view of feminism. Yeah, it sucked some years ago and the extremists still suck, but most feminists reacted to everyone jumping of the bandwagon and getting on the humanist/egalitarian train.

About the fear of female infidelity I would say that monogamy is something people value, some more some less, just like some people value intelligence, find a partner you are compatible with.

stats135 · 2015-12-26T11:54:12+00:00

I'd say that I lean red in that I firmly believe in employing a strategy that would maximise sex per unit of investment of time, money, and general effort. Having said that, I do not believe that "spinning plate" is one of those strategy. As far as I'm concerned it would have to be a full time job to get laid that way. It would be a lot more efficient to exchange having a relationship with a women in return for sex.

HalfysReddit · 2015-12-27T06:40:14+00:00

Redpill is typically fucking terrified at the prospect of fatherhood and disregards any responsibility when it comes to offspring.

Now if you want to get a DNA test just to verify the kid is actually yours and all, go right ahead. You should.

But if the kid is yours, you fucking raise it. Your actions resulted in the existence of this life, so everything that happens to it is partially on your shoulders. If your absent because you can't cope with the responsibility and your kid ends up a violent criminal, that's partially your fault. I don't give a fuck if she said she was on birth control or the condom broke or whatever - that's still your kid, and if the kids mother did lie to conceive it that's just even more reason that you should be present in its life (you don't want that kind of woman raising your kid).

To do anything less is cowardly.

Sneeksl · 2015-12-26T08:56:13+00:00

TRP forbids discussion on racial realism and how it affects SMV. I differ with them there.

Xemnas81 · 2015-12-26T21:19:18+00:00

It is logical for male reproductive strategy to rape women
I am a died-again Christian and the idea of raping women would make me ant to kill myself from shame

Da_Acolyte · 2015-12-27T18:16:17+00:00

I actually believe women are oppressed. I guess this whay makes me purple instead of red. I think overall women don't have it much better than men when it comes to a large amount of systemic power but I will say that the more egalitarian our society becomes the more of an advantage women seem to have in social interactions. Hopefully men develop a sense of self worth in response to this.

[deleted] · 2015-12-27T19:24:47+00:00

For red pill: I really like improving yourself, finding and maintaining hobbies, quitting porn, and limiting/eliminating alcohol/drug consumption.

I don't like AWALT, hypergamey, "plate spinning", and the general hate speech against women.

I think that there are real reasons why men are attracted to red pill, I think that there are some really terrible women out there. I have seen first hand how their actions affect others and I hate them for how they treat others. However, I think that while their actions increase the number of women they sleep with, the jury is still out on if they can find a meaningful relationship (or if that is even what they want).

For blue pill: I like the realization that women (and men) come in all shapes, sizes, and personalities.

I dislike when people put their heads in the sand about how there are just some terrible individuals out there...And that they come in both sexes.

[deleted] · 2015-12-26T06:54:01+00:00

I can't say.

I don't want to get exiled :/

Title	[Q4All] Which views do you strongly hold that are opposite of where you stand on BP vs RP?
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Date	December 26, 2015 6:44 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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