RP: Do you believe BP men generalize women for the opposite of AWALT?

[deleted] · 2015-05-27T04:30:43+00:00

The basic blue pill idea as expressed out loud is that all people are special snowflakes and nothing should be assumed about them a priori. Much like sheep seeing a new gate - Is it a wolf? Is it another sheep? Is it food? The unspoken idea is that women are simultaneously both better and oppressed, therefore they deserve extra consideration.

To summarize: Outwardly - egalitarianism. Beneath the surface - pussy pass.

TheGreasyPole · 2015-05-27T08:55:58+00:00

If AWALT means..

Every woman exhibits female behaviours to a greater or less extent

Then BPers do generalize women as the opposite of AWALT.

Their position seems to be

There is no such thing as female behaviour, so females don't display it. They are all snowflakes, special in their own way, and any commonality is co-incidental

Basically, they haven't realised that the "special unique snowlake producing machine" is broken... And that it stamps out 100 variations on the same snowflake, not millions of unique snowflakes.

They think that every woman has a 100 qualities, and her position on any one of them is as likely to be any value as any other value.

This one likes tall guys, this one likes short guys.

This one likes muscles, this one likes fat guys.

This one likes confidence, this one likes hesitancy.

They then sit there and wait for a snowflake to drift by that matches with their qualities... When that girl who likes short, fat hesitant guys swings by, thats when he is going to get the girl he wants.

They don't realise that the snowflake machine produces 95 girls who like guys taller than them for every 5 that like guys shorter than them. 95 girls who like muscles, 4 that don't care and 1 that likes a fatty. 95 girls that like confidence, and 5 that are prepared to overlook hesitancy if the other qualities are right.

So they are sitting there waiting for their 1/2 * 1/2 * 1/2 = 1 in 8 girl they think the snowflake machine produces that likes their short, fat, hestitant ass.

When they are really sitting there waiting for their 1/20 * 1/20 * 1/20 = 1 in 8,000 girl who really her a short, fat hesitant guy.

Eventually some woman decides she needs a relationship with ANYONE more than she needs a guy she likes, and so (usually in mid-thirties) she makes our short, fat hesitant guy BB.

Then a decade on, kids already in the bag, she decides to go our looking for the tall, muscly and confident guys again... Because, afterall, she's got the kids now and he's on the hook to pay for her and them whatever she does. So she goes back to her factory settings and tries again.

So, yes, BP guys think the opposite of AWALT. If they're lucky they are tall, muscly and confident guys who think that... and it doesn't matter. They do fine anyway, you'd think that only 1 in 8 snowflakes would like him. It turns out 7,999 in 8,000 do, so he does fine.

If they're unlucky, they're fat, short and hesitant men who think that... Who have a horrible twenties... A reasonable thirties (punctuated with blue balls) ... And a terrible forties full of divorce rape, no sex, no family, no kids, sitting in half a house watching half a TV and crying into his half a bowl of porridge.

Ignore statistical liklihood and assessment of women in the aggregate at your peril.

AWALT.

It works.

fiat_lux_ · 2015-05-27T04:26:12+00:00

A lot of BPers do.

HHL was a minor celebrity on TBP. The usual popular comment would express doubt that she was a woman.

"A woman can't possibly write that!"

Because they assume women can't talk shit about other women (even though men talk shit about other men all the time - including feminist men). Because it's often too blunt or offensive. Women can't be blunt. Women are too nice. What she says sounds too materialistic. Women can't subscribe to this or that philosophy.

If Paglia, Sommers, or other women offensive to mainstream feminism didn't show their faces in public, they'd be arguing that these women were actually actually men disguised as women online.

[deleted] · 2015-05-27T04:37:38+00:00

They deny it but their actions tell a different story.

exit_sandman · 2015-05-27T07:39:19+00:00

However, in the same token, one could say that BP men generalize female intentions and actions as opposite of AWALT: Kind, Loving, Loyal, Sweet, and Innocent.

I agree. It's not as if BP guys didn't know women can be shitty, it's just that they assume they're dealing with decent persons by default and can't wrap their head around how common different shades of very basic behavior are. I mean, not too long ago we had a guy who ranted about "the type of woman TRP works on", and then addeed that he rather sticks to "the other 95% of women who are actually normal". This tells you everything you have to know.

Nazrath2112 · 2015-05-27T04:36:57+00:00

Society is build on the concept that a woman can do no harm. We see this everyday with sentencing for crimes among other things. Everyone gets a trophy?

ALLWOMEN hash tags and movements because they get their feelings hurt? What happened to the day of you being in charge of your own feelings? Some dude was taking a selfie in front of a Darth Vader poster and a Mom went to get security because to her the dude was taking a pic of her kids and was a pedrofile.

This kinda shit aint happening because the male agenda. It's because we empower the very thing you are talking about instead of being a society of responsible adults who are in charge of their own feelings.

AmericanHistoryAFBB · 2015-05-27T05:19:48+00:00

Yes, and in fact; many Red Pillers probably had the same habit before unplugging.

Ultramegasaurus · 2015-05-27T05:53:22+00:00

The unconditional veneration of women is the same shit as AWALT.

MagicGainbow · 2015-05-27T13:14:37+00:00

I would like to wade in and point out one counter example from the bpers, the notion that every single woman that any trper has attracted is damaged/crazy.

I've gotten this more than a few times on here, apparently anything but damaged goods is not my lot in life.

chasingstatues · 2015-05-27T05:18:49+00:00

Why do you think people can only function in society if they stereotype women as being one way or the other? You act as if the world would fall apart were we to treat and evaluate the people we encounter in our lives as individuals.

kick6 · 2015-05-27T15:17:44+00:00

The BP views AWALT asa vast generalization and a defense mechanism, where one could say saying every woman is AWALT is a way of looking to seek comfort in conformation bias, expecting women to act in the AWALT fashion, so you can confirm your expectation of their behavior.

It is indeed a vast generalization but the point isn't confirmation bias, the point is preventative medicine. If bloopers don't understand this, then any question you'd ask based on this misunderstanding can't be answered properly..but I'll try.

However, in the same token, one could say that BP men generalize female intentions and actions as opposite of AWALT: Kind, Loving, Loyal, Sweet, and Innocent. Thoughts on this?

No, bloopers generalize women as superspecialuniquefairyprincesssnowflakes for which no generalizations can be made. The Opposite of AWALT is NWALT (no women are like that): that each is so magically individual that no prescription on how to deal with them can possibly be valid.

despisedlove2 · 2015-05-27T18:48:39+00:00

To their own detriment.

Title	RP: Do you believe BP men generalize women for the opposite of AWALT?
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Date	May 27, 2015 4:11 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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