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On trp - why are women who trade sex for sex called the whores, while the women that withold sex in order to sell it to one man in return for millions worth of his commitment - not whores? It seems to be back to front.

TRPACC

April 15, 2015
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Title On trp - why are women who trade sex for sex called the whores, while the women that withold sex in order to sell it to one man in return for millions worth of his commitment - not whores? It seems to be back to front.
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TRPACC

Upvotes 8
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Date April 15, 2015 6:30 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
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Comments

[–]leftajarRational Behaviorist17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Reminds me of joke:

A man walks up to an attractive woman. "Hello, I find you quite beautiful. Would you have sex with me for a million dollars?"

She thinks for a moment, then replies, "Yes, I would."

He replies, "Would you have sex with me for a hundred dollars?"

She glares at him. "What do you think I am?"

"Well, miss, we already established that you're a whore. Now we're just negotiating."

Sex for resources is the fundamental exchange between the sexes. Males have an abundance of productive ability and females have an abundance of reproductive ability. They each want what the other has. Hence, the trade.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, its a lot like that joke.

Today, women have productive ability and men's reproductive ability is controlled by women having birth control.

Now woman are trading sex for sex instead of whoring, but in some cases they are being called sluts for not being whores.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I don't see this insult used literally on TRP much at all, the dislike for sluts comes from a perceived devaluation of their bargaining power and unsuitability for committed relationships.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't see this insult used literally on TRP much at all, the dislike for sluts comes from a perceived devaluation of their bargaining power

People are called sluts for not being whores?

[–]drok007Not white enough to be blue pill2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I mean if you are going with the most insulting phrases don't they say all women are whores because they require time and money? Sluts are just the cheap knockoff version of whores that some people get ripped off on.

[–]speed3_freakOld School Red0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Http://Deanhunt.com/proof-that-women-are-evil/

[–]drok007Not white enough to be blue pill1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahaha yeah I remember that.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No I mean the way "sluts" and "whores" are used on TRP is literally interchangeable.

[–]kick6Red Pill Man6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

trade sex for sex? Does not compute.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

Having sex with someone for free, for the sake of sex.

As opposed to trading it for a life time of money and commitment.

[–]kick6Red Pill Man6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

You think women are having sex for the sake of sex? I'd say more often than not, women prone to casual sex are trading sex for validation or attention.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

In the same way men are.

There are also women that have sex because they like it.

[–]kick6Red Pill Man6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

Sure, but the dearth of male prostitutes would lead one to believe that they don't like it nearly as much as men for it's own sake, and their castigation of female prostitutes shows that they use sex more readily for alterior motives.

[–]archaicScrivener1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

You seem to imply that prostitutes do their job for love of the act. Now I'm no expert, but most things I've seen about this imply a different tale.

[–]kick6Red Pill Man6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

No. Prostitutes do it for money. The fact that prostitutes are overwhelmingly female tells us that women who like sex for the sake of sex are far more rare than men.

[–]ERockEfreedom0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

No, that just means they don't need to pay for it the same way a lonely, desperate man might.

[–]kick6Red Pill Man2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

Man shaming, how novel /s

[–]ERockEfreedom-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago* (16 children) | Copy Link

How is that man shaming?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If they can get it easily, why would there be a demand for male prostitutes?

[–]Eljona19910 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd say mostly for old/fat/unnatractive women.

[–]meehan666 7 points7 points7 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I think most of TRP would agree that it is better to know the price up front.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That doesn't answer the question as to why non whores are called whores and the women that charge the most are not seen as whores.

[–]24-7-69-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I honestly can't remember anyone calling them whores on TRP

[–]nomdplumeFormer Alpha5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

'Cause they're called bitchez?

(I'm kidding, folks, I'm kidding...)

[–]TheHeroReditDeserves1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

nomdplume why you call dem hoes bitches.

[–]ECoast_ManRed Pill Man2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

English must not be your first language.

Do you know what the definition of a whore is?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Yes, someone who trades sex for something, other than sex.

[–]ECoast_ManRed Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

This is stupid.

Woman who is promiscuous, meaning sleeps with many men, is called a whore.

Women who sleeps with one man, while having equal to or even more sex with this one man, is not a whore.

Promiscuity is a necessary element of being a whore. Is that even controversial?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Woman who is promiscuous, meaning sleeps with many men, is called a whore.

Even though she is not charging, she is called a prostitute.

Women who sleeps with one man, while having equal to or even more sex with this one man, is not a whore.

So long as there isn't a financial arrangement, like marriage in place.

Promiscuity is a necessary element of being a whore. Is that even controversial?

No, you can trade sex for a lot of money with one man, or it can be done for smaller amounts with many.

[–]ECoast_ManRed Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Even though she is not charging, she is called a prostitute.

As an insult, not as a statement of fact.

So long as there isn't a financial arrangement, like marriage in place.

Yeah of course? That would make her a literal prostitute. Marriage is not a financial arrangement. It is an institution that involves financial and non-financial aspects.

No, you can trade sex for a lot of money with one man, or it can be done for smaller amounts with many.

This is so stupid. Sure, if someone is a literal prostitute or a promiscuous woman, both likely qualify as whores.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

As an insult, not as a statement of fact.

Right, so women that do not charge, are called whores because they are not the women that charge the most.

This is a female strategy from the past - they heaped shame on women that undercut.

This is so stupid. Sure, if someone is a literal prostitute or a promiscuous woman, both likely qualify as whores.

Only the one that charges, the one that doesn't charge is not a whore by definition.

[–]ECoast_ManRed Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

This is unbelievably stupid.

The one that charges is a prostitute and a whore. A promiscuous woman who doesn't charge is called a whore. She is not a prostitute though because it's not a 'profession'

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

The one that charges is a prostitute and a whore. A promiscuous woman who doesn't charge is called a whore

Right, a woman that doesn't charge is a called a whore (a woman that charges) because she is not charging the highest price going from one man.

These are female tactics and double standards, why do you promote them?

[–]ECoast_ManRed Pill Man0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

What?

You've smoking too many of those funny cigarettes.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Im not the one arguing that women that don't charge are whores and women that do aren't.

You didn't answer the question - shaming women for undercutting is a woman's tactic that works against men, why promote it?

[–]winndixie1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women who trade sex for money usually do it with multiple men, ergo whore, which also means high partner count. Both cases women are whores, women who give up sex for money are all whores.

A virtuous woman is one who stays with you regardless of money, as long as basic needs are met, who doesn't leave when you hit bankruptcy, and ENCOURAGE and PROPEL you forward to earn money and be better.

A man in love with a woman will stay with her regardless of how much money she has.

Men are more faithful and stable lovers.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Women who trade sex for money usually do it with multiple men

Its more commonly done through marriage.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In English, words can have both literal and colloquial meanings.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If the goal is marriage, men and women will overlook an ugly looking virgin for a good looking formerly promiscuous spouse.

It makes sense, having good looking kids is worth the risk of a spouse running off.

[–][deleted] 2 points2 points2 points 11 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]hyperrrealLoves fun[M] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This was tagged Question for RP.

[–]CursedLemonA Bigger, Bluer Dick-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well...nobody's perfect.

[–]hyperrrealLoves fun2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Touché

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

horseshoe again.

if there's one thing TRP and feminists have in common. it's hating women that put out. fucking hypocrites on both sides.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Third wave feminism encourages women have sex without charging (putting out).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

they claim to be sex positive but go look at how they treat women in sex work. they get left out in the cold.

[–]thereddespair0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I believe they are both whores. No different. To think one is more worthy of commitment coz she wants your money or supposed value coz she has a void for you to fill in, sorry but thats just a whore just the same. and if you have such a woman, you have a whore.

the idea i think worth thinking about is, if this is the abstract then wouldnt it also apply to men? that men also are not any different. they are selling something to women to get something in return. are men not also just whores themselves?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well men that have been duped into a lifetime of paying for sex, are more like johns.

[–]max_peenorCertified TRP Shitlord0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Whore is a profession. Slut is a hobby. Professionals are always held in higher esteem than amateurs.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Nobodies answering the original question.

[–]max_peenorCertified TRP Shitlord0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you trying to get me to say all women are whores?

Anyway, I sort of did. A professional practices their trade a lot. Nailing down one man over a lifetime is pretty amateurish compared to multiple per day.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sluts - Trades sex for sex, I do not dislike sluts, I will also not take a slut seriously as a relationship prospect.

Whores- Trade sex for money, escorts are whores and in this aspect are actually not hated on in TRP, by all anyways...some even prefer to utilize their services as it is very clear what is going on. In fact they are some of the most Redpill of women in that aspect. There's less bullshit and you bothe get what you came for after agreeing beforehand.

Woman who withholds sex, uses it as a bargaining chip and then begrudgingly sells some starfish sex to a man for millions worth of his commitment...well lets not neglect that she gave this sex to lesser men more willingly for much less and much nastier. This is where the ire of TRP comes into play.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Typically a woman who withholds sex is testing if the man is worthy. shes not neccessarily 'selling sex' to the man. its to see if the man is interested enough in her so he is willing to wait for sex, because there is more to her than JUST sex.(if shes looking for commitment) the sex will come eventually though.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

because there is more to her than JUST sex.

not necessarily.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the word you are looking for is 'prostitute.'

[–]LUClENSociology of Sex &Courtship-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it's because of the way the transaction is done.

In the same way that we actually do not consider friendships trades, even though a friendship has a sort of exchange and reciprocity arrangement wherein each party provides the other with something they enjoy: whether that be laughs, trust, money, popularity or whatever else people are using others for nowadays.

The exchange is much less direct and far more subtle, concealed in various social norms, habits, and cultural ideas.

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