Why some PUAs believe their method works on all women despite some rejections they've been experienced?

Mystique94 · 2020-01-01T08:53:36+00:00

Because "x technique works on all women" sounds and sells a lot better than "x technique works once in a while on only certain types of people in certain circumstances." PUAs aren't around to help anyone. They are around to sell a product.

TeePeeDucks · 2020-01-01T10:35:36+00:00

Mental gymnastic

When it works, its pua technique

When it doesnt, its the womens problem.

So in their mind its 100% working

I_like_the_word_MUFF · 2020-01-01T13:19:04+00:00

Because there's an endless supply of people who want to sell that product, each having to one up each other's "unlock a secret to having women."

That means year after year, PUA have to make up another reason for you to buy THEIR product. Honestly, back in my day... Before I hit their proverbial 'wall', young guys were selling "charisma" classes to other young boys. Now, they have to sell an ideology and a 'lifestyle' choice to even be considered relevant.

Their product does not work, for the reason that you state, each woman is an individual. Every man is an individual too. That gives excellent fodder for the next big TRP, PUA guy to show up and sell his 'only slightly different' variation on the previous.

Why do you think they come here and say, "yeah I have given up on most red pill but has anyone followed (random person's blog), because he's on to something... " That's a perception you can have when everyday there is a new guy selling you a new plan to 'solve the woman problem' in your life. For guys who have never bought into it, it will never work because ALL pua are snake oil dealers.

But of course, pua go after guys who see their charade for what it is because it it protects their profits. Of course these Chad guys are 'cucks'... They haven't forked over their money, time in front of paying ads, or clicks on their website. Guys who have "taken the pill" are stupid billboards of free advertising, constantly roaming the internet desperately selling their PUA of choice's ideology and referring them back into the feedback loop to buy yet another book, another video to watch, and another 'paid access into a vip section' on their message boards.

David Foster Wallace once spoke to faith and worship as something everyone does, it just depends on what that person wants to worship. Worship money and you will always feel poor. Worship fame and you will always feel irrelevant. Worship intelligence and you will always feel stupid, a fraud. Chosing what you worship is an important process in growing up into adulthood. PUA and their ilk worship their masculinity, which of course makes them always feel like they aren't man enough for almost anything.

As long as there are lonely heart men who worship masculinity, there will be pua. Like makeup sales to women who worship beauty.

... And tomorrow another pua will unlock another secret truth to sell...

dongtouch · 2020-01-01T21:08:25+00:00

This is a kind of selling/brainwashing technique common in MLM schemes and cults. They hook you with some obvious, simple truths (like work out, become more social and confident), then sell hard on “the system”. Then, if you’re having no luck using it, it’s obviously bc you’re doing it wrong. It’s all your fault. When it does work, that’s obviously the system working!

lady_baphomet · 2020-01-01T21:37:53+00:00

Part of the method is to do it on every girl you find attractive as it is a numbers game, the more people you hit on the more likely at least someone will say "yes".

GCWanderer · 2020-01-02T01:21:48+00:00

I suspect most PUAs don't believe their "magical" method works on all women, but, you know, they have a product to sell, so they'll make fantastical claims that even they don't believe. It's best to take it with a grain of salt. A little less time on the Internet, and a little more time interacting with real people will show you what might work for YOU. Nothing else is relevant.

Mr_KenSpeckle · 2020-01-02T22:39:08+00:00

I don’t know of any PUA guru that claims their methods have a 100% success rate. Oh sure, in the title of the video or post they might be a bit click-baity. That’s no different than 90% of the rest of the internet. But in the body of their content they always make disclaimers. It's not a binary choice where you have to bat 1.000 or else it’s bullshit. The real point of it is to simply improve your odds by making incremental improvements.

NamelessJ · 2020-01-03T08:16:35+00:00

I'm not defending the PUA concept, but to be fair there are some that basically just teach you to introduce yourself and have decent conversation skills and don't claim it works on everyone. I think that's a very healthy thing to learn and I can say it helped me, and not only does it work, it's the only thing that really works. Where it can get weird is all of the artificial rules and techniques to attract her. Once you learn true self respect, it's really just a matter of being real and seeing if there's a match. Admittedly, the non-manipulative techniques still aren't bad to know in some situations and can spark attraction, and you don't want to be so afraid to make a move that you never do it, which a lot of the dating advice teaches, but it really just depends on the personality you're with. There's definitely some shady stuff in pickup, but there's also some good advice that gives men the training wheels they need to have basic human interactions which can lead to something.

loveopenly · 2020-01-01T16:45:21+00:00

OP is describing optimism and for some reason trying to paint it in a negative light.

Optimism increases success in all walks of life.

I_like_the_word_MUFF · 2020-01-01T13:13:51+00:00

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