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Help get that fire back

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February 3, 2020

Me: 33 Wife: 37 Married 5 yrs and 2 kids 5 & 2.

Back when I found TRP and sought advice from the members, I was driven to improve and had made some decent improvements.

At around end of October last year after my wife informing me that she wants to separate, she had previously asked me to stay with my parents and come stay in our house when it's my turn to be with the kids while she stays who knows where and vice versa.

I refused. Staying with my parents is not an option as far as I'm concerned.

She said fine she will find somewhere for her and the kids to live. I said if she waits till Feb/Mar when business picks back up, I'll find somewhere for me to go so she can stay in the house. No that's too long to wait was her response.

The main aim with all this was to give the kids a stable environment and keep interruptions to their lives to a minimum.

I was still at my peak of being driven and working on myself and taking in as much TRP knowledge at every spare moment I had, when I came home one Monday night (late Nov) to find no one is home and some clothes and small items gone.

After a few attempts to call her I texted her that night to ask if I can at least say goodnight to the kids. She replies later that night saying sorry kids are already asleep. No explanation, nothing.

I tried calling again and still no answer despite just sending me a text.

I'm losing my mind at that moment and if it wasn't for my deep dive into TRP, I think the old me would have.

The next day (Tuesday) I try seeking help and try to find out where my kids are and am told there isn't much I can do. Yes I have rights but the police won't assist until it's been a few days. A lawyer can send a letter at $xxx cost. What's the point in that though? Besides I don't know where to send the letter.

Wednesday afternoon I get a call from my wife and she is extremely hostile telling me she is in control here, not me. She says we can do this the nice way or the hard way and that it's up to me how this goes.

She has a very wealthy uncle and she mentions that he is willing to help her with legal bills etc. I don't know if there is any truth in this. He doesn't just offer his money out like that. But I'm not willing to find out in any case.

At this point I'm honestly thinking WTF has got into this woman?!? She is behaving rather dramatically even for her. She loves to dramatise things. Must be the effect of years of watching soap operas.

During this phone call, she agrees to let me spend 1 hour with the kids on Thurs with her present to supervise. I ask for 3 hrs and she absolutely refuses.

I'm thinking WTF do you need to supervise? Why is she acting as though I would harm my kids? This comment makes me think that wherever she's staying it's somewhere for abused women and she's making me sound like some violent maniac.

Meanwhile I still have no idea where they are, and she won't let me talk to my kids.

On the Thurs catch up, we meet at a shopping centre and I take the kids to a coffee shop and get them a drink and muffin to share. As I'm ordering my boy asks me if I'm getting something for mum. I think to myself after the shit she's put me through, she can go drink out of a toilet. I just say no.

Fast forward a couple of weeks - She's renting a place 10 mins away and thinks are civil and amicable. Whoever has the kids will call the other to say goodnight to the kids every night. She had me come over on Christmas morning and spent the day together. She's been asking me how I'm feeling about her decision to move out and how I'm doing etc. I tell her I'm fine because it's given me a chance to focus on myself and learn how to be independent. In the beginning, this was true. I was feeling great. I'm now in control of my home and it's up to me to stay on top of everything and organise my life in general.

I was extremely busy with work leading up to the end of Dec and things were good. I was happy to have her out of my immediate life.

I was sad for not being with the kids as much as I had been but I was managing.

I was just focusing on my mission of improvement and lifting regularly until I was pushing too hard and kept injuring my back & neck which kept me out of action and was just bringing me down because it was stopping me from being able to stay on track. Then with the holidays my eating started slipping and it's just been a downward spiral since then. This is further compounded by the fact that Jan/Feb are typically the worst months in the year cash flow wise because.

The legal advice I sought back in Nov was that 50/50 shared care for the kids is unlikely because my youngest is only 2 and she needs to spend majority of the time with her mother.

At the time I'm okay with this temporarily because I've got a lot of work to do on myself before I feel I can be the type of father that I want to be for my kids. (my parents basically didn't teach me any discipline and weren't really present in the ways a child needs from their parents and I feel this has a lot to do with how I ended up here and am so dysfunctional. Not passing the blame, just explaining I have ways to go yet)

The Present:

Now I'm really struggling to find the motivation to resume this path of growth and development when I really need it most. My boy (5) is struggling with this adjustment and he doesn't like that he doesn't see much of me.

My girl is struggling also but her ways of showing it are more subtle.

When I'm not with my kids I struggle to find the motivation to do things. Even my work is being affected. My eating, fitness, socialising has all turned to shit.

I saw a psychologist last week and she says I'm progressing through the stages of grief. Losing my kids like this, whilst is not permanent, it's still a form of grief. Right now I'm going through the depression stage according to her.

I know 80% of what I need to do, but yet can't fucking do it.

My goal is to eventually get 50/50 custody of my kids. Like say in 6-9 months time. They mean the world to me and there is so much I want to do with/for them and teach them and help them grow into happy, positive and very capable little individuals.

To be able to care for them 50/50 I need to get my business and cash flow to a much improved state. I need to manage my time and prioritise my life and just be a much better 'operator' to handle the challenges that come with single parenting.

My biggest and most immediate problem is I don't have anyone to talk to. My best friend is now one of my biggest client's and as such the friendship has taken a back seat.

Has anyone here gone through something similar? What advice can you give someone that's trying but really struggling?

Just finally before anyone points out I'm being beta AF or whatever. I feel like everything I'd learned about TRP has just gone out the window and I'm trying hard to spend time re-reading and just starting all over again.

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Title Help get that fire back
Author realestillusion
Upvotes 9
Comments 23
Date 03 February 2020 03:32 AM UTC (11 months ago)
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[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret54 points55 points  (2 children) | Copy

Calm down. Get a new lawyer. Then get another lawyer to compare the first two. Sidebar.

This is the way.

[–]mountainbiker1788 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is the way

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I make my own way.

[–]adeptintact22 points23 points  (1 child) | Copy

She's obviously fucking another guy since she just broke up out of nowhere. She's bad news. Look forward after the divorce to the rest of your life. Internalize red pill principles to prevent this from happening again to you. Be the best father you can be when you are with your kids.

Anyways shes 37 way passed the wall and you're only 33. You can easily find a younger hotter girl. Improve your SMV and your life will only get better.

[–]An_Actual_Politician11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

If OP is this fragile at AWALT, imagine the post he puts up when his kids hit him with the inevitable "mommy's special friend spends the night at our new house" bullshit that women always do during their branch swings.

[–]Tyred_Biggums18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

Find a different lawyer who will support you going after 50/50. What’s the two year old need the STBX for? She can eat solid foods.

I’ve been through some of the worst grief imaginable. Work on yourself and take it day by day. This is nothing. You’ll be fine IF you do the work. I had a bad 48 hours after my separation. You’ll get over it and be happier for it. Your marriage is dead - move on with your life.

Stop being a passive participant and start controlling the situation.

[–]simbarlionRed Beret19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pull yourself together you sound like a baby. Take your down time, and then go at life like a divorced 33 year old madman.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy

What fire are you trying to get back? You never fucking had any.

You signed up here about 6 months ago, posted a couple of really fucking weak OYS posts.

You did fuck all reading - 3 months in you were asking for directions on how to make a MAP , you don't lift, and then you told your wife about Fight Club.

There's a reason why we tell the noobs - Lift, Sidebar & STFU. Can you figure out why that is now?

But no, fuck that - you skipped all the boring stuff and signed up to in the hope of meeting women. Then sat at the bar alone, crying into your beer.

Fuck you.

Fuck you for being lazy.

Fuck you for not listening.

Fuck you for thinking you could not do the work.

Fuck you.

You got what you deserve.

Fuck you.

[–]RedPillGlasses4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your psychologist is right. You’re depressed, you got semi-fucked over. Just cut yourself some slack and realize shit will suck for awhile.

For real though, get on Tinder and go on a date. It doesn’t matter if you fuck, just matters if you TRY. And it gets you out of the house. 👍

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

The legal advice I sought back in Nov was that 50/50 shared care for the kids is unlikely because my youngest is only 2 and she needs to spend majority of the time with her mother.

I don’t know what state you live in, but get a 2nd opinion on this - sounds like BS. You would be interviewing at least 3 attorneys.

What. The. Fuck. Is. Your. Question?

All I see is rambling whining and excuses.

[–]Techn1ckS3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Finding someone to talk to isn't hard. Find yourself a man club. There are plenty out there. Download Meetup app and find people to socialize with around you. Or start a group there with a fun theme or one for other single dads. Hell, join a singles club. Go to your local sports center and find a team for whatever sport you want... I think you get the point.

[–]weakandsensitive11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

I hate you fucks and your "for the kids" bullshit.

[–]oneisalreadytaken1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

As far as your kids go. I left my ex when my daughter was 2 fought like hell for 50/50 set back after set back. Knock down drag out fight later, my daughter will be 5 in july and I got 50/50 this month. And my fight was quick. There was dv charges and multiple accusations as well as sexual misconduct and other bull shit. The age doesn't matter anymore. Most states are slowlying moving towards a presumption of 50/50 at separation. You're gonna be depressed, deal with it, you're gonna wanna give up, don't, you're gonna feel like there's no way you'll ever have your kids, if you haven't done anything wrong, you got very little to worry about. You have a lot of work ahead of you in just this area. So put your head down and do the work. If you want to be a parent, then be a parent. Work on yourself and show them that you're not gonna let something other than you control who you are becoming.

[–]learning00071 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Get 50/50 custody now, anything else else is bullshit excuses and being a pussy

[–]justpickanyusernameRed Beret1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Not sure I’m pulling for you here. Usually, I want to side with the man. You have not acted at all like one.

I think she made the right decision to kick your ass to the curb and take control of the family. Shape up or you will never see your kids much. We nor she can motivate you to wake the fuck up. You just sound like you are lazy. You get what you deserve.

Ideally, you get your head on straight and be there for your kids. Right now, it’s probably best where things are at. Your move.

[–]TimeToDigDown5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

He comes here asking for his fire.

The fire fucking comes from within.

Or doesn't.

[–]turbospeedsc0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I kinda understand where he comes from, before my divorce i was on fire, had my 4-5 income streams, my career was going up very fast, i was always doing something either fun or productive, after it, i did fuck every pussy that came my way, did have lots of fun, but i completely neglected my career, my finances etc, i just couldn't find the strength to keep being a bad ass at work, with the new wife i just coasted using up all the resources i had accumulated, just now i feel like im starting to fully recover, still cant be the get it done guy i was.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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