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tightsleeves · 2020-02-10T13:03:47+00:00

You are doing something called freakanomics. Comparing two things and trying to make some similarities or proclamations. You have it wrong

Women aren't choosing to sleep with their husband as some progress bar to help their husband identify their place on the BETA <-> Alpha bar; They aren't even CHOOSING to sleep with their husband... it really boils down to this: Are they attracted to their husband and desire him on a primal level. If so, they are receptive and open to being sexual. If not, they do their best to keep their husband alive with some drip sex

EasyDaysHardNights · 2020-02-10T14:55:49+00:00

There's levels to this shit brother.

Let's start with your logic.

Sex = validation

You are attempting to set up a scale. On one end is our Incel brethren ... who get nada in the sack. You acknowledge that point.

women not sleeping with their husbands

Implied is the other end. The sex that the mystical creature known as "Alpha" gets.

I'm sure you would acknowledge there is a world of possibility between the two points on that scale. How would you go about defining them? Categorizing the variables that move you up and down the scale?

Frequency is a metric. Multiple times a day, daily, weekly, monthly, annually ... and yes once a decade (we've seen guys come through here who haven't been fucked in a decade ... ouch).

Then there's quality. The "are you done yet?" level. Ouch, I've heard that one. That's definitely not "Nada" but it's certainly on the lower end of the scale. Then there's the "Fuck me in the ass!" moment she blurts out as you're railing her. I may have heard that come out at some point. Surely, that's closer to the "Alpha" end of the spectrum. How far though. Is that further along the scale then say ... her tying herself up in ropes and asking you to smack her ass? That gets a bit gray.

But that's just how she's responding to you during sex. Where would you put "are you coming home for lunch?" text messages? Or that moment she giggles and recalls out loud the blowjob she gave you on the last road trip. You're not actually having sex in those moments ... but she's being sexual. How does that factor in?

What about the number and age of kids ... do you get to throw that into the equation? Like ... if she's got a pair of newborn twins sucking on her tits and she's dazed and delirious ... is her not giving you sex OK there? Does that get a pass? What if she's strung out on drugs? She can't see the ceiling, never mind your dick ... only a kaleidoscope of colors is passing in front of her eyes. Or if she's hurling into a toilet from the chemotherapy. If she's doing everything she can just to hold onto her last threads of life ... does a mulligan get played there? What if your wife is Europe and you're in Australia on a business trip? Do those windows of time, "not count?" If she texts you a picture of her tits and the dildo she's riding while you're away ... does that count? If she's in the middle of shark week and fucks you ... does that get you bonus points? Do you get more points if she initiates vs. if you initiate?

Look ... at some point ... you're going to have to face the reality that there are infinite number of variables you'd need to consider and all that time is wasted. It gets you no closer to her actually fucking you (which is demonstrably different the "you fucking her"). In fact ... all you're doing is thinking about fucking ... and not actually fucking.

I'd suggest you drop your line of inquiry and just take it on faith, that in the pool of literally 10's of thousands of guys who have been here before you, that collectively we are far enough down the road on what actually gets you to a place where you are balls deep in your wifes pussy ... and that this line of inquiry won't get you there.

Of course you could just keep going further down the rabbit hole you're running in.

Your call.

Rabbit hole ... or Wife's hole.

You only get to pick one.

xX_bullitt_Xx · 2020-02-10T12:13:05+00:00

No. Beta husbands are rewarded with transactional sex, rather than the validational sex an alpha male receives. The quality of the sex is significantly different.

markreadsred · 2020-02-10T17:04:25+00:00

Rollo talks about desire not being negotiable for this exact reason. sex can be transaction to keep the beta and his resourcing.

Unless the sex is enthusiastic and on the terms of a man, it's not alpha fuck's sex

Less of a dichotomy and more of a comparison difference.

Sepean · 2020-02-10T11:25:43+00:00

No.

In general, if A implies B, then not B implies not A. That's one of the most basic rules in logic.

If you want examples, you could be having sex because you paid for it, or because your fiance is trying to hook you into being her beta bux.

Your lack of reasoning ability aside, you shouldn't waste time on shit like this. It's just intellectual masturbation. What are you hoping to do? Think your way into insight instead of learning and experimenting? Find some logical hole that invalidates the actual experiences from all the vets here?

Tyred_Biggums · 2020-02-10T18:49:33+00:00

An "alpha" doesn't need sex to prove that he's alpha. He just is. Get out of your wife's head.

10points4gryffinddor · 2020-02-10T11:29:32+00:00

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helaughsinhidden · 2020-02-10T15:23:18+00:00

Being alpha isn't a cheat code like a video game that gives you more "points" in the "fucks to use" stat line of a character that is measured by pressing the F key when near any NPC woman to see how effective the trait is.

Facts:

Correlation does not equal causation.
Beta is unattractive and gets less quantity and quality of sex in his life.
Being alpha and all it entails is more attractive.
Being more attractive gets you laid better and more often as a side effect.
Alpha does NOT need validation.
A man can be fully alpha and still get rejected and/or fail to be attractive to his wife.
A beta can still get frequent sex and it can still be good sex too.

part_wolf · 2020-02-10T15:45:05+00:00

In short, no. Getting laid doesn't make you an alpha. Buying into that mindset is chasing validation.

The fact that you're attractive, have high social value, and demonstrate good leadership means that you're more likely to get laid.

weakandsensitive · 2020-02-12T07:39:29+00:00

Propositional logic clearly isn't a strong point.

Title	Question
Author	10points4gryffinddor
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Comments	37
Date	February 10, 2020 11:02 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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