Setting The Record Straight on Racial Preferences in Dating.

theDukesofSwagger · 2019-01-18T14:12:36+00:00

“So you guys are racist?”

~ Other people. Still.

1st10Amendments · 2019-01-18T15:05:15+00:00

As a Libertarian, I owe nobody any explanation for any racial (or other) dating preferences I may or may not have engaged in. If I’m racist, that’s my deal, not yours.

sleepyweaselisawake · 2019-01-18T15:11:10+00:00

This is 100% of the problem. People don't want the truth revealed not to the public and certainly not to the masses.

Creating platforms where men can collaborate en masse in free exchange of ideas that results in women being exposed for what they truly are hurts women in the long run.

Life is generally easy for women, the majority of the misery they experience they bring on themselves. Single mother? She could have chosen abortion without the father's knowledge. Keeps getting pumped and dumped? She chooses her sexual partners. Ready to settle down after an extended carousel ride? There used to be guys waiting to pick up the tab, but not so much anymore and it's showing.

A generation of women is being left behind to wither away in spinsterhood with the next several generations barreling headlong into the same fate. Rather than preaching responsibility and encouraging women to foster relationships they're being told to chase cock and careers because 40 is the new 20 and eggs can be frozen. The lack of suitable men has nothing to do with a woman's choices it has everything to do with men not living up to her expectations.

Meanwhile, men are checking out in droves for good reason. It's better to live alone spinning plates than it is to be responsible for someone who will never be responsible for themselves.

ThroatYogurt69 · 2019-01-18T14:51:32+00:00

Honestly, as someone who was almost in an interracial marriage, I couldn't care less if someone is racist or has racial preferences for dating. If they don't bother me, then fine.

I'm not out to change anyone's opinion on race. I just want to make my wealth, be left alone, and hopefully witness the Vikings actually win a fucking Superbowl.

MisterPhamtastic · 2019-01-18T17:44:55+00:00

I'm an Asian dude.

Most girls are hesitant to date Asian dudes, but Asian girls have zero issues getting swooped by anyone really.

Such is life. It is out of my power how women have their own preferences. What I do have power over is how I take care of myself and present myself and my achievements in life to create "status" which women are attracted to.

NeoKiume · 2019-01-18T18:12:46+00:00

im with global free speech.

WAATGM_MODERATORS · 2019-01-19T04:16:52+00:00

As an addendum...

When we say men and women take race into account for dating, they take into account the mentality and culture behind the races in question.

An Asian American girl and an Asian girl are not the same. Similarly, an African American girl and an African girl are not the same. When we talk about race, we are really talking about the behavior of a certain group of people in general. While exceptions do exist, people, for better or worse will stereotype certain groups based on certain behavioral traits. If you act like the exception to the rule and someone still treats you with prejudice, then he/she is a racist.

When it comes to women, we tend to take the same approach: AWALT. All women are like that, unless proven otherwise. If you are one of the increasingly rare girls who has character and humility, you will not be treated the same as every other girl who is nothing but a glorified series of holes.

The main reason for the failure rates as they are explained in the post is because of the above mentioned difference in mentality. When it comes to white women/black men pairing, the girls are usually selecting men for excitement. Not a lot of girls go for upstanding black men. They usually go after thugs, bad boys and in general, men with an edge to them. Women live vicariously. As society becomes more stable, women push social norms and moral boundaries to feel this edge and see what they can get away with. Women are chasing two opposing goals: 1) to get as much resource as possible without having to rely on men and ultimately to become man-like themselves and 2) to attract a masculine man who will make them feel like a woman.

White women chasing black men fall prey to this 'controlled danger adventure'. When the danger becomes tame, they leave. When the danger gets close to threatening, they leave. It is a conscious choice by women to chase after men who do not have any long term potential but only short term excitement. Whether it is a black thug/white girl dynamic or a white girl/white thug dynamic, this is what is happening. Society, in general does not place the blame in the hands of women. They tend to absolve women (or reduce her responsibility) and shift the blame to these men. Most of the times, the easier cop-out is race. Some commenters in our sub do this to an extent too, but there are also many who concentrate on a rational discussion with the choices the girl made. The primary purpose here is to provide a place to vent about these issues, to learn from the evidence we present, and laugh at womens misfortunes after having made poor decisions, not at ambiguous problems they have due to race.

The main reason people, women especially, do not like male dominated forums and are quick to cry racism or misogyny in any of these forums is because they do not want to see the work behind developing a product. This is all just part of the “Just get it” dynamic. People do not want to see the effort that goes into building anything. They want the shiny final product and they want it for a discount.

But, men are builders. Rational men, even more so. And to build, we need to have a forum where we logically and rationally analyze facts, posit the self-destructive behaviors on display and form our own opinions devoid of frivolous opinions and directives. We will continue to provide a place for men and women to create their own opinions based on rational discussions, logical analysis, and most importantly, a release of frustrations from which a healing vine may grow. And we will kick out people who try to take advantage of it or turn it into something else or hinder this goal. We owe you no other explanations.

SirKolbath · 2019-01-18T15:11:15+00:00

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Omnibrad · 2019-01-18T15:52:55+00:00

“Burn coal, pay the toll.”

Is this racist?

Lord_Drezz · 2019-01-18T15:22:56+00:00

i dunno, i prefer redheads, but i wouldnt turn down a blonde or brunette if she excited my fancy. Id never turn down a blonde, just because shes blonde.

BluepillProfessor · 2019-01-18T17:21:21+00:00

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Farhandlir · 2019-01-19T02:17:13+00:00

As a White man I don't care who dates who, if White women want to date Black guys then good on them, there are plenty of perfectly fine respectable and family minded Black men out here. The problem isn't about race but about the type of men that women go for these days, be they White trash or Black thug, not the respectable men of either demographic. Then the same women end up being single moms and blame all men for it. No, blame your poor decisions when it comes to choosing men. Say you like Black guys, there is nothing wrong with that, but you had to choose between a good educated Black guy with a career and a ghetto thug with no ambition and you chose the later. The problem is you.

Hillarysdilddo_2016 · 2019-01-19T00:01:02+00:00

Here's an answer. People who are "redpill" are the type to seek truths even if they are offensive. These people prioritize truth over feelings. Bloopers are the opposite. They tend to prioritize feelings and avoid and censor facts contrary to their desired narrative. They are keen on shaming and subject to it. They are very much like fundamental religious zealots where information contrary to their belief system evokes a very strong pushback. Again conforming to the ideology is paramount.

What this means is the bloopers who stumble into RedPill forums are agast at the open "racism" "sexism" that abounds. When in reality people with intellect and critical thinking skills (RP people) will openly question and discuss topics in search of truth.

That is the phenomenon the OP is observing. Of course the post itself though it's purpose is to advance a narrative that RP people are racists and sexists (to shame newcomers away from the truth). The idea is to turn you into docile chattel that simply does as your told, unquestioning.

IterImpius · 2019-01-18T15:59:45+00:00

Racial differences in intelligence

loneliness-inc · 2019-01-18T15:57:15+00:00

The dual mating strategy is what frustrates men to no end and rightfully so. The dual mating strategy is the root cause of much of the "racism" here, real and/or perceived. (We don't tolerate the real version).

How so?

If a young woman wants to have a good, solid family, she'll save her virginity for marriage and she'll marry within her own race, ethnicity and religion! The reason for this is simple - there are already so many differences between men and women that can cause minor and major rifts between a couple. Any additional differences - such as different cultural, ethnic, racial, religious backgrounds and experiences - will only increase the likelihood of divorce. You can look up the statistics, intermarriage of any kind has a much higher rate of divorce and the children are much more likely to grow up confused and many other problems. Love cannot overcome all. That was a lie.

Therefore, when a young woman deliberately chooses someone from another race, ethnicity, religion or cultural background, it's for one reason - they were smitten by sexual lust! This lust may have developed further into love but it's basis is sexual lust - a fleeting desire. You can't build a foundation on something that isn't solid. You can't build a foundation on something that's fleeting.

People are free to date, marry or have sex with whoever they want and we're free to call them out for it. It's a free country (for now) and we still have freedom of speech (for the time being). We therefore will call it for what it is. This doesn't make us racist, sexist or any other type of bigot.

Bottom line - a woman who chooses a man from a different race does so because alpha fux. Because she follows her tingles and not what makes most sense for starting a family, she's more likely to end up as a single mother. And what do you know, the men who sired her children just happen to be from races who's genes make them tall, strong, athletic etc and not from races who's genes make them brilliant geniuses. What a mystery..... 🤔

Million-Suns · 2019-01-18T15:52:30+00:00

What people have a problem with is ...

People have a problem with everything nowadays. Do your thing and don't give a damn about how others are easily offended.

The_Man11 · 2019-01-18T16:59:32+00:00

It is simply a fact that interracial pairings, regardless of the races of the persons comprising the pairing, have higher breakup and divorce rates than pairings between persons of the same race.

This is only true for some interracial marriage combinations. Others are more successful.

Rank	Pairing	Relative divorce rate by pairing
	Black, Black	1.63
1	Black husband, White wife	1.62
	Black, White	1.55
2	White husband, Black wife	1.44
3	Hispanic husband, White wife	1.19
	Hispanic, White	1.13
	Other mixed race couples	1.07
4	White husband, Hispanic wife	1.06
	White, White	1.00
	Hispanic, Hispanic	0.98
5	Asian husband, White wife	0.79
	Asian, White	0.77
6	White husband, Asian wife	0.77
	Asian, Asian	0.24

Profitglutton · 2019-01-19T17:31:32+00:00

Interestingly though white men/black women pairings have lower divorce rates than that of most same race marriages excluding Asians. This is probably due to the difference in SMV but it is notable that they last longer than most other pairings in general.

CoMaBlaCK · 2019-01-18T15:51:04+00:00

The thing about ‘racism’ is it’s the answer they have to work backwards to solve. The end result is anything and anybody they want to call racist is and they’ll fill in the details about why later.

Pay it no mind.

where_muh_good_mens · 2019-01-18T17:38:54+00:00

There seems to be some confusion about what is considered racist and what is considered an opinion or phrasing using racial epithets, which in and of themselves are not racist.

racism

n. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.

n. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

When someone gives an opinion that, in general, a persons race carries forth distinguished characteristics that produce a group identity which leads to a group bias, it is simply a perceived observation.

discrimination

n. The act of discriminating.

n. The ability or power to see or make fine distinctions; discernment.

n. Treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit;

prejudice

n. An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.

n. A preconceived preference or idea.

In order to be racists, one has to state an opinion based on racial identity alone. Simply stating a phrase or expressing an aggravation that contains phrasing indicative of race is not racist unless the statement serves no other purpose than to expose/harm/injure/encourage bias of an individual or group of individuals based only on their race. A statement that includes race, is an opinion, and also contains the context for why race is used is not a racist statement.

Now, this is entirely up to the mods whether they feel that such a statement will alienate any members of that particular race and to remove that comment. So I cannot guarentee that those statements will remain up on the sub. But, members that use the above guidelines while venting/utilizing the purpose of the sub will not be banned for those statements. If you argue with the mods or attempt to undermine their authority, you will be banned. If you use certain, socially volatile words (you know which ones those are!), you will be asked to edit your comment or it will be removed with a warning.

We will not tolerate expressing yourself uncontrollably or being subordinate to the mod authority here. This post isn't about determining what is good or bad comments, but what stance the sub takes when dealing with content that contains racial undertones. We want to give members a certain liberty to make their statements and opinions on here, but realize that we also have to moderate the board in accordance with the "policies" of our discretionary site administrators.

assassingriskell · 2019-01-18T14:27:06+00:00

I mean you can post this all you want but the overwhelming comments in those types of threads are racists

nsfwalt900 · 2019-01-18T15:03:00+00:00

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2019-01-18T16:50:00+00:00

Humans have something called in group bias. We prefer something (mates, clothing, cars) that are similar to what our group chooses.

Chef_Chantier · 2019-01-18T17:08:58+00:00

Has the context of intra/interracial relationships been considered when comparing their "success rate"? You might be jumping the gun by implying that black man/white woman relationships are at a high risk of breaking up. Maybe socio-economic context has something to do with it.

IcebergHermit · 2019-01-21T16:25:23+00:00

Somebody out there is trying to make dating a civil rights issue 😡

Apparently your a racist if you don’t go outside your race and there is no worse sin than that

This is the mind of the far left

_Anarchon_ · 2019-01-23T16:43:04+00:00

Everyone is racist. Everyone is sexist. Everyone discriminates. It's good. It's healthy. What's unhealthy is pretending we aren't.

CiceroVoltaire · 2019-01-18T21:35:40+00:00

When I was chasing women I was an equal opportunist, pretty is pretty to me. I'm white and had ONS, dated and had relationships with women from many races, white, black, hispanic (Puerto Rican, Cuban), Asian (Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese and Philippine).

My preference is Asian women, Japanese and Chinese at the top if I had to choose a generalization.

My last real relationship, lasting several months, was with a woman half my age from China, and I'd likely married her if things had worked out. It was the best relationship I've had, but all the relationships I had with Asian women were better than relationships with women of other races, including my own.

I had many long lasting relationships including living with different women for more than a year, and a 20 year marriage before separation and divorce.

NickTesla2018 · 2019-01-18T21:45:39+00:00

I've dated white, black, latina, and asian. The woman that treated me best was asian. She wasn't originally from the States either. Unfortunately, she also got very violent when she was intoxicated.

AndyJN16 · 2019-01-20T23:04:32+00:00

Man this thread is a dumpster fire that makes little to no sense

Bluetinfoilhat · 2019-01-21T02:40:49+00:00

This is all true. But honestly white men are more opposed to dating a white woman who has dated black men, than white woman who are opposed to white men having dated black women. What does that tell you?? That white men are far more obsessed about race and entitled than white women.

In addition East Asian and south Asian men feel more entitled and obsessed with having sex with white women compared to south Asian women.

The point is I think both sexes feel entitled equally.

IcebergHermit · 2019-01-21T18:45:15+00:00

The thing is I NEED things in common

If she likes heavy metal and classic rock and likes Howard Stern and crazy cartoons and comic books and video games we will do well

Unfortunately women like that are few and far between of any race

hardlifeman · 2019-01-22T00:51:03+00:00

I appreciate what you're saying here, and agree with most all of it.

That said, calling someone a "coal burner" is kinda racist, and I have seen commenters use that here, more than once. It certainly connotes negative judgments purely on the basis of race.

There is, unfortunately, a considerable amount of racist/white supremacist commentary throughout the manosphere - well beyond the degree that most thinking people could just dismiss as culturalism. Case in point: Heartiste.

Title	Setting The Record Straight on Racial Preferences in Dating.
Author	WAATGM_MODERATORS
Upvotes	152
Comments	127
Date	January 18, 2019 2:10 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen
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