Carol is too good for everyone, lowers her standards, but still doesnt understand why those "losers" still wont commit.

ThePlague · 2018-06-24T16:25:49+00:00

The pendulum has swung. Just as women at one time vigorously defended their virginity prior to marriage, men are now defending their independence prior to commitment. They require a longer and longer vetting process, if they're willing to have their LTR cherry popped at all.

fmanly · 2018-06-24T15:39:53+00:00

The comments are interesting. It makes me wonder if the nice guys are collectively waking up and walking away from dating entirely. Guys who are doing PUA will of course be around, and that seems to be who they're running into.

Just isn't worth dealing with the insane expectations.

moorekom · 2018-06-24T16:15:55+00:00

//I have lowered my standards many times. It started about 8 years ago when I was like “you know, height isn’t all that important to me!” Then, 6 years ago “you know, there’s no need for a handsome man because all looks fade!” Then 4 years ago “I have a college and graduate degree but I am fortunate and maybe not all men are so there’s no need for any degree!” Then “I never expected a man who makes 6 figures but what’s 30k/year? I mean I know I live in LA/NYC where rents are insane, but as long as he has a room for rent and pays it...” Then 2 years ago “I’m not really attracted to much older men but I’m almost 30 so what’s the big difference between 30 and 46? At least he’s more likely to want to settle down, right?!”//

There it is gentlemen. The wall in all its glory. That shit just warmed my heart. The wall takes no prisoners and I want you, my brothers, to not give these basic bitches an out. Let these girls suffer as nature intended them to for their dumb decisions. Improve yourselves, learn game and go get younger girls or do your own thing. A woman is a terrible thing to invest on.

thefireisrising14 · 2018-06-24T16:24:34+00:00

NYC and multiple degrees = high probability that she's broke despite making six figures.

BluepillProfessor · 2018-06-24T16:08:53+00:00

I feel like I have a lot to offer and don’t know what else to improve on. I’m fit, I used to model lingerie/swim professionally and still look the same. Still young. Multiple degrees. 6 figure career. Property owner. Lots of hobbies and interests. Excellent chef. Don’t mind cleaning and chores. Almost never in a bad a mood since I really do have an ideal life aside from dating. I’m feminine and fun, always trying new things. Ive put in a lot of effort, so much so that I don’t know what else to improve on lol.

There's your answer. You sound like a narcissist. You sound like you are in love with yourself so much that you don't think you have any flaws. Therefore every bad thing that happens in a relationship must be due to a flaw of HIS, right? If you are capable of doing so, put yourself in his shoes for a minute. Would you stick around for that kind of BS? I didn't think so.

SpafSpaf · 2018-06-24T16:37:35+00:00

Aside from her alleged physical attractiveness, she brings nothing to the table in an actual relationship. When it comes to career women who go on about their accomplishments and how much they make, most guys either don't care or are intimidated. Even though my last ex had a couple master's degrees (and went through plenty of effort to make sure everyone she met knew about it) , it still didn't change the fact that she was a controlling physically abusive cunt who most people couldn't stand being around for more than 10 minutes. My current GF has a GED and doesn't treat me like shit, and I am extremely happy to be with her.

SirKolbath · 2018-06-24T17:04:39+00:00

She's getting torched in the comments. Jesus, some of the shit that's being said sounds like I wrote it. "You sound like a narcissist." "There's no way your shitty attitude isn't coming across in your presentation to these men." "Maybe you should start taking it in the ass."

sleepyweaselisawake · 2018-06-24T16:57:34+00:00

The problem is simple disparity. The guys she's after just aren't ready to settle down. The vast majority of guys should date well into their 40s, there's no reason not to.

Additionally, she's not just withholding sex for the duration of 8 to 10 dates, she's withholding affection and any sort of emotional investment. By the time she's ready to have sex I'm willing to wager she goes through the motions to give the guy a taste, but makes no real effort to make it memorable. The fact that she's willing to have sex is enough.

Furthermore, it's nice to see guys are starting to wake up. Commitment is on a gradual decline and based on the very small sample I see on the interwebs women have a losing hand. I'm looking forward to seeing what comes of this.

BiggusDickus- · 2018-06-24T16:21:30+00:00

Clearly she is full of shit in one way or another.

Possibilities include:

1)Lying about how attractive she is, or ever was. Was she really a model? Really makes six figures? I call bullshit.

2) Is completely unrealistic regarding who she will date. Does have to be rich? Super handsome? If her version of lowering her standards is that she will consider men that make "only" 250K per year and look like Brad Pitt then she is in fantasy land.

A "swimsuit model" attractive woman, with multiple degrees that makes six figures should have absolutely zero trouble meeting a great guy, even if she is pushing 30. There are tons of great men in their 30s that would commit to her.

JJ3314 · 2018-06-24T16:13:47+00:00

She's clearly a lovely lovely woman and hard done to. OR, and I suspect this is the real reason, is that her market value is a lot less than she thinks. But even starting to think along these lines would blow her mind.

JJ3314 · 2018-06-24T16:49:04+00:00

“But for whatever reason, men won’t commit. Now, I don’t mind being rejected, but I’m rarely rejected either.”

If they aren’t committing to you, you are being rejected. Rejection isn’t just for incels baby—you’re just getting rejected on the back end of the deal.

JamesLucratif · 2018-06-24T17:07:54+00:00

Every comment is like, maybe it's your personality, and every time she's like "lol nah there's nothing wrong with me"

Just another entitled princess who is certainly lying about at least one if not multiple aspects of her life to a bunch of internet randoms, imagine the kind of BS she's feeding to people in real life.

HighIQChad · 2018-06-24T17:47:41+00:00

The obsession with degrees is extremely annoying to me. I have multiple degrees and can tell you that while there is a correlation with intelligence, there are also many people with advanced degrees with little knowledge or wisdom outside of their specialty. There are too many women who think having a Masters makes them hot shit. A degree simply opens some doors; you can't point to it to prove your worth while delivering nothing of value or intelligence.

KingRobotPrince · 2018-06-24T21:47:15+00:00

Very weird and inconsistent overall.

Says she an in-shape ex-model, but then says this:

I typically don’t have male friends that are straight unless they are not into curvy women.

Since when was "curvy women" ever used to describe someone in good shape? And if "curvy woman" is being used as a desirable shape, why would her friends need to be "into them"? Makes it sounds somewhat niche, rather than widely accepted beauty.

I have lowered my standards many times. It started about 8 years ago when I was like “you know, height isn’t all that important to me!”

29, but she lowered her standards 8 years ago, at 21? She became desperate and lowered her standards that young?

Then you have her reaction to the obvious suggestion that if she is perfect in every other way it could be her personality. She considers that to basically be an impossibility. Not even something she would spend time worrying about. "No, it must be all the men that are wrong!"

Then she seems to suggest that she makes them wait for months to have sex, maybe demanding commitment before? While I agree this is a good tactic to keep your numbers down, she sounds like she's taking it a little too far, given what men are demanding. If she wants to wait for marriage to have sex then she needs to find a guy who will go along with it.

I figure she's either a little bit autistic, or she got dumped when she was late teens or early twenties and it meant she has been so scarred of her numbers creeping up it has made her obsessed.

Either way, she's totally weird and needs to maybe consider some counselling.

SirKolbath · 2018-06-26T06:21:05+00:00

"Who's the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?" - Obi-Wan "Motherfucker" Kenobi. (As quoted by Mace Windu).

"Who's the loser? The loser, or the loser who can't get the loser to commit?" - Sir "Motherfucker" Kolbath (As quoted by some bloke I met down the pub.)

BachelorInc · 2018-06-24T22:25:57+00:00

I don't buy for one second that she's lowered her standards at all. Her in the comment section regarding online dating -

They all wanted hookups and were perfectly fine lying about it. I often found out from friends of friends who had dated the guy and found out he did the same thing to them.

She mentioned she lives in both LA/NYC. Yet the same guys she meets online just happened to hook up w/some of her friends? Do you know how many men are in LA/NYC? What are the chances...So, if this is true they're all sharing the same top tier 1% men or wtf?...How many women are these tiny fraction of men sharing LOL? This is unreal.

Also her in the comments regarding men she met online -

He just wants a rotation of FWBs

How many men can have an entire rotation of FWBs, especially in LA/NYC the single most superficial and pretentious places on the planet (I live in So Cal)? Not many. Not many at all. You have to be absolute Adonis status online to have a rotation of fuck buddies. I'm talking well above just top 20%. Maybe top 10% or even 5%?

She hasn't lowered her 'standards' at all.

_1_7_7_6_ · 2018-06-25T00:15:27+00:00

An educated career woman quite simply means less time for her to support her man in the ways he requires. It has nothing to do with being intimidated. Men simply want a woman who will be there when he wants her... and a woman who isnt desensitized and damaged by sexual experience and abuse, and doesnt have a shit-ton of baggage killing her ability to pair-bond.

Zweihander7 · 2018-06-24T19:39:20+00:00

Lmao, she said she doesnt put out until date 8, maybe that why guys arent committing, lol how dumb can she be

IntrovertedMagma · 2018-06-25T00:00:02+00:00

This is MGTOW spreading in real time.. ENJOY!!!

TomahawkSuppository · 2018-06-25T01:00:39+00:00

Over inflated sense of worth - check Textbook narcissism- check Entitlement- check

Take a good look men, this is your average modern day woman. So fucked in the head she cannot fathom what it is to be feminine or have any sense of realistic expectations. Pump and dump, about the only thing she is worth, on and make sure you wear a condom.

LesboPregnancyScare · 2018-06-24T18:48:06+00:00

That's just wonderlandgirl, who's been posting the exact same thing for months and I'm convinced is a guy trolling.

void_magic · 2018-06-24T19:56:09+00:00

Her post history is full of this.

lorum_ipsum_dolor · 2018-06-25T10:07:24+00:00

Something seriously doesn't add up. This woman ticks off all the right boxes but can't manage to secure commitment. Something tells me she's not representing herself in an honest manner.

ButtsMacGillacuty · 2018-06-25T20:47:50+00:00

I feel like I have a lot to offer and don’t know what else to improve on. I’m fit, I used to model lingerie/swim professionally and still look the same. Still young. Multiple degrees. 6 figure career. Property owner. Lots of hobbies and interests. Excellent chef. Don’t mind cleaning and chores. Almost never in a bad a mood since I really do have an ideal life aside from dating. I’m feminine and fun, always trying new things. Ive put in a lot of effort, so much so that I don’t know what else to improve on lol.

I don't believe any of this.

where_muh_good_mens · 2018-06-27T20:15:00+00:00

She lowered her standards from Chad to Brad. Isn't that enough, guys?

Guys?

Helloooo! /s

Ghustgan · 2018-06-24T18:47:47+00:00

This woman is the epitome of the "where are all the good men". If the men you go for are shit, maybe you should go for the complete opposite? Just a thought.

[deleted] · 2018-06-25T04:35:37+00:00

She's probably a bitch

[deleted] · 2018-06-25T04:45:43+00:00

Painful reading that, and her comments are worse still. I actually think this might be a troll since there seems to be some lazy contradictions. For example, she claims she's an introvert then 'eccentric' later on.

Put another way, I hope thats a troll because if not that's a trainwreck

trevmon2 · 2018-06-25T12:56:37+00:00

sernie banders with the savage advice

vincentbriatore · 2018-06-24T16:59:35+00:00

She asks for advice but reacts very defensively to every single observation. Honestly she seems controlling and full of herself. If she has never had a LTR in her entire life she’s obviously the problem

cycloneous · 2018-06-24T22:25:26+00:00

Analysis

Something tells me there is more to this woman's moaning and groaning. She says she has lowered her expectations in men. Okay, that is fine but what about your attitude and character? You can have a 6 figure income, hobbies galore and be a 8/10 but if your character and personalty are shit, then I won't be hanging around much! She doesn't expand on that, and I am willing to bet no man wants to put up with her shit.

Verdict

Avoid Carol at all costs, her personality is likely that of a cat lady in the making!

ContradictFate · 2018-06-26T17:03:39+00:00

How does it feel being a man, sweetheart? Having all of your shit lined up and yet the opposite sex flips burgers and still thinks they are too good for you? Have fun on the decline, I can speak from experience that your mood will further spiral into a depressive and lonely nightmare.

NotLuceBree · 2018-06-29T10:47:30+00:00

Stupid woman.

She blows off anyone trying to tell her what is obvious: men DO want to commit, just not TO HER. Anyone who claims it's the fault of men ("they must be intimidated!") gets her full attention. It's obvious she just wants people to validate her.

Title	Carol is too good for everyone, lowers her standards, but still doesnt understand why those "losers" still wont commit.
Author	LesboPregnancyScare
Upvotes	118
Comments	129
Date	June 24, 2018 3:04 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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