Stay away from "Independent" career women

4benny2lava0 · 2015-10-27T11:22:33+00:00

I had a similar experience dating a slut who worked at dunkin donuts.

It has nothing to do with learning good.

IronMeltsinmyHands · 2015-10-27T14:21:18+00:00

I could never understand what women call "being abusive." it's so strange to me. I don't yell at you, I never hit you, u didn't even tell you to fuck off ever. But, I'm the one who is abusive?

What kind of insane gymnastics did you do to get that conclusion?

The only answer I can come up with is, women will call you abusive, throw around terms that have a specific stigma attached to them, so that they are seated in power, and can do the most heinous and vile things without any backlash, from society. And if society says it's ok, her conscience must be wrong, she's not really at fault.

evileddy · 2015-10-27T17:09:47+00:00

Yep. I was dating a chick for 6 years.. when we met I had a fulltime job and paid all the bills.. rent, food, fun. She was going to school ( one of those business schools to be a business admin ) and no joke the week to the day that she graduated.. she decided she was no longer "happy" with her current life.

So she dumps me, starts fucking a guy that she met with me not only a month ago and even had the nerve to wait until I was at work and cleaned out herstuff ( and a computer I lent her ) and left a "I'm sorryNOTsorry" letter.

Revenge time happened about 15 years later when I seen her pushing a stroller and looking absolutely horrible.. gained weight.. face was so aged.. holy shit... she just looked like life had chewed her up.. we made eye contact and I just smiled and shook my head and walked by.

Best. Feeling. Ever.

[deleted] · 2015-10-27T11:25:26+00:00

This is a normal Western woman.

Assassin1476 · 2015-10-27T17:12:38+00:00

This is just a typical fish doing what they're doing; swimming. I've learned a long time ago that you never entertain nonsense of any kind, you don't argue, you don't even ask questions or ask why and if you have to respond you remain short, sweet and straight to the point. You use pure logic, zero emotion. Just become the term indifferent.

Women will feed off of any energy you give them whether good or bad, logical or emotional, calm or screaming. They have a movie in their head where reality doesn't exist and they just hear, see, think and feel shit differently that whatever the reality of the situation actually is. AWALT at the core of their being. I've seen uneducated strippers spit more real knowledge and hard core truths and logic than career women, even some men. But you know what...doesn't fucking matter because that hamster can still inject itself with the serum that made the Tyrant monster in the Resident Evil movie and go on a monsterous rampage because you know why?! She's a fucking g.i.r.l.

Invalidity · 2015-10-27T17:32:59+00:00

I would only recommend getting married to a woman if she was making substantially more money than you. Then if a divorce is needed, you'd be able to walk away with money rather than losing it. This is not likely going to happen though unless you are an attractive guy.

Otherwise, I don't advise men to get married in the current climate. Career women are the absolute worst to get married, because they will generally only seek out men above their paygrade, and they will be more prone to their hypergamous instincts than other women.

cleftscout · 2015-10-27T15:13:57+00:00

1) Never question why a woman would call you abusive. When I was 16, my girlfriends best friend was angry that I didn't want her, so she went to my girlfriends dad and told him I was abusing my girlfriend. Her dad HATED me, but knew I wouldn't touch her. He then spent 2 unmedicated hours yelling at her about how shitty her friends are.

Fast forward 3 years, lying bitch shows up at my place of work as a fellow employee where I am overall the most well liked, and I break frame, my smile dropping when I see her as I go to he back room of the place to tell the scheduling manager that if I ever see her again, I quit. (I cooled down pretty quickly and retracted that statement.) Bitch can see this and takes the opportunity to tell everyone that I abused my now ex girlfriend, after I hadn't talked to her in 3 years, or my ex for about a year and a half. Of course I find out about this having happened weeks ago from a coworker calling her bonkers.

AWALT.

2) I went ahead and dated a girl I could pump full of redpill truths. Shit was bomb, but after 9 months I got bored because I never liked her at all. Now she hangs out with my ex mentioned above and they both are still trying to sleep around in my friend group and tagging me in posts all over social media, somehow after I block them, all the while saying they blocked me and I was a such a "caaareeeeep!"

Edit: Grammar and shit.

mugatucrazypills · 2015-10-27T15:39:21+00:00

I can make lists all morning of guys I've known who paid for the LTRs higher education with multi year subsidies only to be dumped shortly after they graduate.

Many women view Beta-LTRs throughout their 20s as a pussy-based scholarship. Bored ? Want a masters degree or PhD to put on the wall? Second Bachelors degree in something more useless than the first ? Get on the beta chump scholarship program.

the_red_scimitar · 2015-10-27T20:06:14+00:00

None of this has anything to do with "educated", nor "independent".

Then what?

AWALT. Simple AWALT.

You can't buy feels with favors, money, etc. The rule is: Attraction can not be negotiated.

What happened is beta you fell for the oldest scam in AWALT-dom - the dangling of the carrot, in exchange for financial favors (including gifts and non-sex benefits of all kinds).

I date them regularly, and find they make very fine submissives, and want to be such, and enjoy the roles very much. They crave a man who won't buy their bullshit (i.e. passes shit tests). Period.

This post is about you, not her, or them.

real-boethius · 2015-10-27T11:41:24+00:00

Truth is what feels good now.

[deleted] · 2015-10-27T16:51:24+00:00

Why did you keep contact? Is hard to tell, but is there a kid with this woman?

GarandTheftAvto · 2015-10-27T21:16:19+00:00

Lot of anger phase here, which is good- venting in this forum can really help. I think there is more to unpack though, why do some have such short memories for shared effort and contributions? As Patrice says, "what have you done for me lately?"

That being said, independence and career focus are not deal breakers. If you have money and success you are somewhat insulated from divorce rape if you marry to your same level of wealth and status.

Improve yourself, be a self made man in whatever way you can, and choose a partner (if you want a partner) at your level.

trpalternate · 2015-10-28T00:55:07+00:00

Reposting because the bot deleted my original.

The minute she graduated with her first degree,she forgot about all my financial help all those years ,the groceries,clothes,being driven around etc

Briffault's law in action.

After her second degree as a 27 year old,she called off our engagement. Now I must admit ,I only wanted to marry this chic so that our daughter would grow up with the warmth of both parents. She tells people I was abusive and that the child would be better off if we dont marry. Citing it would be a loveless marriage....Whatever lol.

To quote GLO:

"If anything is fashionable in America its victimhood. Figuring out a reason why you are the victim is a great excuse to talk about yourself at length. It could be a Native American great grandparent, a self inflicted eating disorder or your parent's divorce. If anyone tries to stem your flow of self pity, they are quickly declared insensitive and possibly racist. Having an imaginary abusive relationship is a great way for women to get attention, as if Facebook Instagram and Snapchat weren't enough to feed their narcissism...

...If a woman casually tells you that she was abused you have reason to be suspicious. Real abuse is painful and difficult to talk about. Its not something that can be casually dropped after a yoga class on the way to Whole Foods. A lot of women are narcissists and liars. There is nothing wrong in saying that because its true."

Read the whole post, it's worth going over twice.

Engagemnt off.....she sees other guys behind closed doors as she continues her big sham of being an angel in public.I honestly think this woman is worse than a professional whore. Whores are honest in that they offer sex in exchange for money.There is some level of honesty and transparency to be respected from a whore.

AWALT

ofcourse Her friends and mom were championing her filthy and selfish cause.They also believe God is on their side.

Women always side with each other. Also, AWALT.

Fast foward to the present,I have met a woman that's a 9/10, also way younger and the ex now claims I CALLED OFF the engagement. Lol wtf??????

The hamster at work. She broke off the engagement because she lost respect for you. But since she lost respect for you, in her mind, that's your fault. Ergo, you're the reason for the broken off engagement. Therefore, it's your fault, the engagement failed because of you, and you might as well have called it off.

So, what she said is all true, from a certain point of view

[deleted] · 2015-10-31T17:34:35+00:00

so you basically got to enjoy her youth, have a kid with her, at the price of supporting her a bit during this time.

Then you got let off the hook to upgrade to a newer younger model.

well played OP :)

thewrightstuff88 · 2015-10-27T13:50:26+00:00

It's not like non independent, part time job women are any better either. If anything, they will be more inclined to divorce you should you get married to them because thanks to modern laws, she will be more "entitled" to your shit and she could look just as good, if not better than a career driven women and can branch swing with the best of them

Evileddie13 · 2015-10-28T05:28:26+00:00

My ex, said to once,"How much easier it was for me to go to school with my beta bob ex because I didn't have to work." I was was pretty offended. Did I break up with her? Nope. Five more years of being a blue pill nightmare...I understand the thousand yard stare.

jay_jay_man · 2015-10-28T10:59:39+00:00

Recently a career-focused ex fuckbuddy called me up. She literally spent 40 minutes telling me about how ambitious she was, what she wanted (house & land), and flat out said she wanted to man to help her get these things, then barely mentioning something about wanting to be in a relationship with me again. I laughed mentally the entire time. I knew where this was heading 2 minutes into the conversation.

No way am I gonna be some single mother's fresh off the cock carousel's meal ticket.

The biggest problem with these types of girls in a relationship is that they don't really know how to turn off work mode. The constantly try to boss their men around as if dealing with a male subordinate at work. There subtle attitude and demeanor is not feminine. She strives only for things that men would do. Most men grow tired of their bullshit pretty quickly and the ones that stay around typically have limited options or are weak.

Fuck 'em but don't wifey 'em.

throwaway783487387 · 2015-10-28T12:56:27+00:00

On her. Not on you?

You seem a hopeless beta. I think she's way better without you.

[deleted] · 2015-10-28T13:53:46+00:00

and the ex now claims I CALLED OFF the engagement

It's amazing to me how women will completely reinvent history when they decide their wants have changed.

[deleted] · 2015-10-28T16:58:04+00:00

In my experience "educated women", think it will increase their SMV and would drop everything once they meet "Mr. Right" aka Alpha with cash.

Educated women are definitely a nono, because they think they are smarter and more educated than you, because they can quote obscure philosophers or indie movies.

They think they are god's gift to this world, because "Im smart and hot" and you better know it.

NEVER EVER DATE THESE WOMEN.

satanicpriest13 · 2015-10-29T03:43:28+00:00

Play along. Of course I called off the engagement. It was a loveless marriage and would have been harmful for our daughter. We both had to focus on our careers, and you seem so ambitious I didn't want to hold you back.

Besides have you seen my new bird? She's FIT.

IndyBrodaSolo · 2015-10-27T23:56:20+00:00

I see this all the time with female doctors. Nice young girl marries nice non-doctor during or before med school. Later in med school or residency, her Italian designer-clothes wearing "friends" talk about their desire to marry tall rich men, usually other doctors, who want to live in NYC. These slowly become her wants as well. She drags her husband along with her to dinners and other engagements with her friends and co-workers, and they all ignore him. Soon her friends bring up the D-word and talk about setting her up with Dr. so-and-so. Girl starts to believe her guy is not ambitious because he's not earning 6 figures even though he typically has a stable job in a respectable field. Then the affairs begin and she leaves him. Poor slob never knew what hit him.

Factushima · 2015-10-27T13:22:10+00:00

I would say that these women may be an partailly acceptable choice later. The problem is that you have to be ahead of these women financially and in your career. Women who have a serious career are more likely to support themselves, less likely to get a sweetheart deal in family courts, and less likely to require marriage and children. Why? Women are crazy cheap and selfish. When it's their money marriage is seen clearly as a bad deal!

hebola4lyfe · 2015-10-27T22:27:49+00:00

This should go without saying.

Once you talk to one of these career women you realize that women can get bitchier than they already are.

There is no limit to a woman's bitch level . Career women are the proof of this .

[deleted] · 2015-10-27T14:01:46+00:00

The minute she graduated with her first degree,she forgot about all my financial help all those years ,the groceries,clothes,being driven around etc

Sounds like you got played like a bitch and now you're bitter about it. It hurts to be stupid don't it?

Title	Stay away from "Independent" career women
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Date	October 27, 2015 11:10 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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