She’s Your Woman, Not Your Friend

awalt_cupcake · 2015-12-28T21:06:03+00:00

Treat your woman like the Queen she deserves to be.

You know what a Queen is?

The King's bitch.

thenemaxofredpill · 2015-12-28T20:50:58+00:00

Girlfriend told me that she should be treated as my equal. I told her to go open a pickle jar. She laughed and called me an "asshole".

cholomite · 2015-12-28T20:44:33+00:00

One of the hardest things for me to get into my head was that in order to have a girl become sexually interested in me, I had to treat her as inferior. This was so opposite to my blue pill upbringing that it made my brain hurt. You've explained it well in your post. Women want to submit and give themselves only to a man they view as superior to them. Part of that has to be treating her as an inferior. It doesn't mean demeaning or degrading, although a girl will gladly demean and degrade herself for a high value man. It just means never truly treating her as better, or even equal to you. It seems negative on the surface but once it is explained it makes perfect sense. By treating a girl as your equal, you are showing her that you are not worthy of her submission. Hence why the "assholes" always get the girl.

RedPillAnonymous · 2015-12-29T05:09:47+00:00

I'd say you have this backwards. Men don't need the woman to be a sub. We are perfectly capable of enjoying sex with a woman who is our best friend, in fact most would prefer it. It is the woman who needs to feel like you are her superior to feel sexual attraction to you, and will not feel that desire if you are her friend.

ransay3277 · 2015-12-29T02:20:18+00:00

This also applies to parent - sibling relationships. One day I was being punished as a kid for being a jerk and my Dad told me... "I'm not your friend: I'm your Dad." Had a ton of more respect of him after that!

rovert_nednil · 2015-12-29T05:21:47+00:00

This is the toughest thing to swallow for all us BP-raised males. Everywhere I look I see the couple/friend dynamic. They do fucking everything together, I just shake my head now, but not so long ago I looked at that with envy. No more.

soadaa · 2015-12-28T23:52:46+00:00

Good post. To me, this is redpill awareness summarized:

1: Women are hypergamous: they can only be attracted to men they feel are superior to them. So any sexual relationship with a woman starts with you at the top.

2: HOWEVER, they can feel the power unbalance and therefore demand to be treated as equal (feminism is the same principle at a societal scale). As a humanist and raised on the blue pill, I understand that need for equality. It is only fair..

3: If you yield and treat her as equal, she will be happy to get the extra power, BUT she will lose the attraction, dooming the relationship.

Benny757 · 2015-12-28T23:53:53+00:00

The "friend" part is fine as long as you are the alpha in the relationship and you really, really have the more kick ass life. She'll be your friend, companion and willing crew to support all the fun things you do. YOU do.

Now lets reverse that. She's the one with the agenda and in her mind, she's the busy alpha female. You try to become her "friend" and crew her, and tag along and do everything for her, then you've fallen into her frame. Oh she will use you all up all right, like the female black widow spider consumes her mate. Then she'll tire of your beta ass, and dump time. You will have "disgusted" her with your wimpy follow along tongue-wagging nature. Nice guy, sure, but as friends and not in her bed. Be fucking selfish. You are the king. Only one king...You.

BlueFreedom420 · 2015-12-28T21:31:59+00:00

I wish prostitution was federally protected like abortion is.

scarletspider3 · 2015-12-29T01:59:34+00:00

So true. Lose some status or utility and you'll see how much of a friend she really is.

NeoreactionSafe · 2015-12-28T22:05:29+00:00

What about man's best friend the dog?

Men love women, women love children, children love puppies.

I think if we see a woman as like a puppy they can be our friend, but actually the dog makes the better friend.

Women are more like cats when you think about it.

Hmmmm... I guess you're right.

BigSteroidMuscles · 2015-12-29T04:18:41+00:00

Disagree, partially

Current girl I'm seeing I have a blast with, would consider her in every way my best friend. And I do put her in her place often. She does what I say 100% of the time and if she ever disobeys me I make it really clear that she's out of place and she quickly re-aligns herself.

Fast forward 5 min and we're back to laughing, wrestling, snowball fights and pushing each other into strangers.

Best LTR I ever had

stawek · 2015-12-29T11:13:17+00:00

Marrying their best friend is an advice for women: after all the "friend" is their BB orbiter Once they approach wall they can marry him all right. Good deal for them. For the poor guy: good way to become a cuckold.

[deleted] · 2015-12-29T17:20:00+00:00

why this idiot removed post?

[deleted] · 2015-12-29T06:37:03+00:00

Everyone likes the idea of being married to their best friend.

Yet, you have the stereotypes of "sex 'ruining' the friendship" or men being kept in the friendzone.

Friendship and sex don't mix.

EDDbDG · 2015-12-29T04:01:26+00:00

Wow. I almost never find myself disagreeing with a TRP post but this is honestly sad. I really just feel bad for you.

While it's true that 80-99.99% of women will have nothing in common with you, depending on what exactly you're into, to say that it's impossible to find anyone who will actually be your friend, romantic interest or not, is sad. A lot of you probably do have a female friend, but you're not interested in her for whatever reasons. She's ugly, she's fat, whatever, but she has a lot of similar interests, and you enjoy talking to her like any other person. To actually believe that there won't ever be an attractive version of that is so hopeless and sad.

Marrying your best friend, finding your soul mate, etc. is possible. Just change your standards. A lot of you are into masculine things, and you say you want a girl who is super feminine, or into feminine things. Where are you going to find a feminine girl who is into masculine things? That's an oxymoron. You might have better luck if you look for more boyish or masculine (in personality) females. They probably aren't 10/10s. But the difference between fucking a friend and fucking a girl is that after you fuck the friend, at least you still have a friend. After you fuck the girl she's just nothing to you, because your sex drive is satisfied for now.

SkorchZang · 2015-12-28T21:36:25+00:00

Solid advice. The new dynamic brings all kinds of strange unexpected boosts to her attraction, compared to the blue pill "best friends" way. I'd say this is the most important thing to internalize early on, perhaps following the immortal pimp principle of "never chase after a bitch".

letsgetrandy · 2015-12-28T21:50:09+00:00

It's classic ladder theory. You're either on the friends ladder or the lovers ladder. You can't straddle both.

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[deleted] · 2015-12-28T22:00:45+00:00

The two most absurd statements are "I married my best friend," or "I found my soulmate." There is no such thing as a "soulmate." The reality is that there are many women with which a man can form an emotional bond. Men and women relate to each other differently than men with men. I hope that a man and wife are friends or at least friendly, but throughout history the bond between men is stronger than between a male and a female.

winningace · 2015-12-28T23:52:16+00:00

Hardest mentality to develop.

Erkster18 · 2015-12-29T07:09:20+00:00

Even before I discovered TRP, the whole concept of "marrying your best friend" didn't sit right with me. I'd think, if we share so many common interests, wouldn't it grow boring to just date a female version of myself? No, my friends are to remain my friends. After all, we see an LTR as an extension of ourselves - if she has nothing to add, why bother?

NameOfAction · 2015-12-29T12:30:16+00:00

During the get to know you phase of my current ltr I told her all the time that I wasnt her friend. Use a sweet flirty tone and they love it. They dont want you for a girlfriend any more than you want them as equals. A girlfriend is a competitor.

dat_honkey · 2015-12-29T14:10:20+00:00

Good post. And let's be honest; most women make terrible friends. My family gives me love and understanding, my guy friends give me loyalty and laughs. ALL i need from my girl is her holes.......and to change the discs when i'm playing xbox one.

Dunkh · 2015-12-29T15:41:11+00:00

Reminded me of this.

Dustin_Bromain · 2015-12-28T23:07:32+00:00

LTR recently tried to convince me that we were "friends" on some level and that it was good to be that way. Huh. I didn't know that "friends" come over to another friends place, get tossed around like a little submissive fuck and then pass out on top of one another butt-naked. Sounds like grade A friendship to me.

pbjandahighfive · 2015-12-29T05:21:51+00:00

You had me until you started spewing that "sex is about domination" bullshit. Sex is about feeling good, ejaculation/orgasm and for those who desire it to be, procreation. It is not about controlling someone and that school of thought is for fuckbois who put way too much importance on the act of sex. Red pill is not strictly about the pursuit of women and having sex with them. Red pill is about self-respect and how to be a man that other men look up to and want to be. It's about being a role model. It's about being successful and understanding that pussy isn't actually all that important compared to everything else that we should be focusing on in our lives and if when you are having sex and going out trying to find women with intentions of "dominating" them, you're putting pussy on a pedestal, thus lowering your level of self-respect and have obviously missed the point of RP by a few million fucking miles.

dysphoriangrey · 2015-12-29T07:04:12+00:00

"Sex is about domination, where a female submits her body to a man she deems superior to her." Just wow... You've had sex what? Like, maybe 3 times...?

Cyralea · 2015-12-29T14:40:35+00:00

Naturally you don't want to break the illusion for her. Let her believe that she's dating her best friend. It's part of her fantasy.

The "Marry your best friend" trope is pervasive because of female solipsism, they naturally assume what's good for them is good for men. They can't really see past the curtain towards male sexuality.

You can't date your best friend. If you see her as your equal it's a matter of time before she feels the same way and starts shopping for a superior alpha.

[deleted] · 2015-12-29T07:08:03+00:00

I'm fucking my downstairs neighbor and she and I vie for domination and we're best friends. The Red Pill philosophy really doesn't match my situation (single dad, kid loves her and I do too...)

Title	She’s Your Woman, Not Your Friend
Author	RickJamesBeyach
Upvotes	274
Comments	97
Date	December 28, 2015 8:33 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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