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[–]ka0t1k88 points89 points90 points (3 children) | Copy Link
never ruin your life over a woman's feelings.
[–]marfvf31 points32 points33 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Over anyone's feelings that is
[–]da_kochevnik15 points16 points17 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]NotherThrowaway2849 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh, wow, do I wish men would learn this one simple lesson. Really.
[–]biggy_sauce52 points [recovered] | Copy Link
Lol i she tried to bait him into a relationship, she only told him once she thought she had him around her finger, then tries to guilt him into it when he reacted that way
[–]HiredNote43 points44 points45 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I went to see the original thread, and , lo and behold, there was a single mom defending the woman. She was saying, "She wanted to wait until the right moment before sharing something so intimate." Fortunately, most weren't having it, saying, "She's doesn't need to be intimate before sending nude photos. But she needs to be intimate before saying she has kids?"
She had plenty of times to tell him. On the first night they met, when she asked if he wanted kids, when they texted, etc. But she had to wait until he was paying for her dinner before she let it out? Red flag.
More red flags: she's a liar. "Oh, I don't wanna go out evenings because of my parents." Don't date a liar. And she blew up on him over not getting the reaction she wanted and bad mouthed him to friends and family. Any chick that blows up on you for rejecting her for making reasonable choices (and doing it in a polite way) is not good relationship material, whether she's a single mother or not.
[–]SirGuileSir31 points32 points33 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Can't get any more NTA than that.
[–]mgtow__uk12 points13 points14 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Truth. Not the ATM.
[–]vitruvius_legion31 points32 points33 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Put these women in their place. Threaten to cut ties with your mom and sister if they don't respect your dating decisions, especially if they come to you with unsolicited guilt-shaming pressure advice.
[–]vitruvius_legion18 points19 points20 points (0 children) | Copy Link
When you started to date her, she hid you the fact she was a single mom. If this woman had respect for you she would have told you this straight from the beggining. Now, the bullet backfired.
[–]rigoexe34 points35 points36 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Holy shit, they're all in on it. Who can you trust these days to look out for you? Count yourself lucky if you have redpilled bros, appreciate them to the fullest extent, they're worth their weight in gold.
[–]ChunderSmash32 points33 points34 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Typical that as soon as he's not willing to raise another man's kid, she shames him then contacts his family so they can shame him too. I can't believe it's still acceptable for people to expect men to look after single mothers as if it's a privilege.
[–]Buchwild11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That was a nice touch.
[–]friggandfrayed[S] 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
And then the females of the family shame him too... sister... mother.
[–]teslaistheshit0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
NEVER pay for another man's orgasm. Fuck that
[–]devok1[🍰] 18 points19 points20 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Even his mother tried to shame him , by saying shes a successful woman.
Bitch , successful women are not single mothers , those 2 are mutually exclusive.
[–]friggandfrayed[S] 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Wah-men will do anything to play the victim so they band together to excuse each other’s disgusting behavior. We have no idea what his mother was like.
[–]Im_a_CNN_Expert13 points14 points15 points (0 children) | Copy Link
NTA. Your life, your wallet, your choice.
[–]Dorgdorg13 points14 points15 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Somewhere out there is a man desperate enough to date a single mother. could have been me if I never found mgtow.
[–]NeverNeverLandIsNow10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
NTA for sure, she should have told you right away, she didn't tell you I am guessing because she was afraid of exactly what happened, that you would no longer be interested in her.
[–]Shipbldr20009 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
NTA - You have a right to have standards. No one is at fault, she simply does not meet your standards.
Dating is an opportunity to gather information, which you did, and make an informed decision as to whether to enter a committed relationship.
You have made an informed decision.
[–]TheKnightRunner5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
How could he be the asshole? Having a kid is a major part of who somebody is. The fact she wasn't up front about that likely means there are other sketchy things about her she's holding back.
Modern society: Girls are celebrated for saying they only want guys 6' and taller. Yet men are not allowed to say no thanks to single moms without being judged.
[–]SneakyRat674 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Reeled him in then dropped the anvil when she thought she had him. Miscalculation.
[–]gottie10 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's like the Willie coyote skits where his shitty plan fails at the last moment or function, and the road runner goes on his own merry way.
[–]GSV-ZeroGravitas4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's turned into a hell of a thread! GOD there's some vitriol being thrown about in there. You'll get acid burns just from reading it. 😆
[–]Cizzar3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
It's like a sleazy car salesman trying to sell you a car with 20k miles without telling you that 200k miles have been substracted from the odometer...
[–]friggandfrayed[S] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Vroom vroom
She should have taken it in the ass
[–]Tex_Willer_442 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
As I've said elsewhere, the two instinct-driven goals of women:- procreate, and get a mentor. It's as cold and calculating as that. All else is woolly distraction and flummery to hide the stark reality. The only benefit to the male is passing on your DNA - but that is really only of benefit to the species as a whole, and not to the individual living his one and only brief life.
[–]Tex_Willer_441 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
And when you're mentoring another man's spawn, you're not even passing on your own DNA. There is no benefit at all to it.
[–]crawdaddy98802 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Good old bait and switch.
[–]Teflon081912 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Notice how she still lives with her parents, and "they get super weird" when shes isn't home on time.
My guess is that her parents got sick of taking care of the kid while she goes out partying.
[–]U-941 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
She's the asshole for polluting this planet with another person.
[–]lastlaugh1001 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Imagine if the dude waited a while before revealing he had $500k in debt and was a garbage worker and then demanded a girl keep dating him because he was "falling for her". He would be called a dangerous controlling asshole and probably have a restraining order filed against him.
[–]randybigbones0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I mean he asked in a round about way before the date. It is best practice to ask early on,"how many kids do you have?" Even if you already know the answer, phrase it that way and watch how they react.
[–]friggandfrayed[S] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Part of dating is the entertainment value. I’d ask every question direct and indirect just to watch her squirm until she finally brought it up.
I call it dinner & a show - be sure you put in on separate checks.
[–]migelall0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I would never marry or have a long-term relationship with a single mother. Why waist your time, energy, resources on someone else's child? It is not natural at all. In addition, one has to understand that for her the child most likely will always be the first priority. Also statistically, you are much more likely to get accused of molestation, abuse etc. It is enough for a child not to like you and he/she may decide to come up with such allegations. Stay away from them.
[–]Electronic_Record0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I know a single mom who lets her 7 and 11 year old sleep in her bed. No way you will be getting any poon in that relationship.
[–]Jsjgiwwsddd0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Hahaha, once happened to me.
I didn’t say nothing and I remember I banged her in her kids room while her kid was sleeping, and yes I banged her raw and came inside in a tiny bed, then left and never wrote back.
I’m glad the dude exit but he could have just pumped and dumped.
Pd: don’t try that if you don’t have a phone number bought with cash in a extra phone and untraceable, just saying.
[–]Cockinit0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If you go waaayy down you'll see the cucks.
[–]IterantImprovement0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
What exactly is it that she's successful at? She has a 4 year old, still lives with her Parents and has a curfew. Yup, sounds like a winner to me.
[–]friggandfrayed[S] 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Apparently successfully opening her legs. Like that takes skill lol
[–]GSV-ZeroGravitas0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Aaaand it's been locked and the original removed. BUT, sort by Old and you'll find the Automod copy of it. Tbh I'm not surprised as it was getting a tad raucous in there.🤣
[–]caralto0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
damn, tries to guilt op into being an instanta-daddy beta cuck, lucky he got out
[–]deepspace70 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
More men need to do this and set absolute boundaries about not dating, living with, and marrying single moms. That would cut off resources from a major societal resource hog.
[–]DarthVoidz00 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The post was deleted... anyone know a way I can (and others) read it?
[–]wonderlustraven-5 points-4 points-3 points (15 children) | Copy Link
you do realize the childs father could be dead right?
[–]GSV-ZeroGravitas5 points6 points7 points (14 children) | Copy Link
Dead, in jail, thrown out because he wasn't giving her enough 'attention' (money), or he just fucked off because he was tricked into giving her a fuck trophy?
[+]wonderlustraven-7 points-6 points-5 points (13 children) | Copy Link
that doesnt make any sense but go off crybaby
[–]Antipc024 points5 points6 points (12 children) | Copy Link
Made perfect sense also so what if the fathers dead that doesn't make a child disappear
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[–]L_Ollonais3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
With pleasure
[–]Antipc023 points4 points5 points (7 children) | Copy Link
You'll grow up one day bud don't sweat it
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[–]Foodspitter7 points8 points9 points (5 children) | Copy Link
This is easy to explain. Dating a single mother is a lot like a woman dating a short dude that works at Denny's.
She's just not going to take one for the team because he's nice.
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[–]Foodspitter5 points6 points7 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Apparently, we know women better than you.
[–]Antipc026 points [recovered] | Copy Link
You can understand women or love women you can't do both
[–]jrpark054 points [recovered] | Copy Link
Like understanding the screeching harpy above. :D
[–]gottie11 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You* you're*. Typing shorthand doesn't save time, it just makes you seem stupid.
[–]jrpark052 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
If single mothers (not widows, which are a vast minority) want to be loved by a good man, then they should own up to their mistakes. If they do not, then why do they "deserve" it? I didn't have unprotected sex, I chose my sexual partners carefully, and before I re-prioritized women (by going MGTOW) I prepared myself to be a great husband and provider. I didn't make the mistakes she did in the choice of her partner or her actions and decisions, and yes, that matters.
Also, you can love a single mother without marrying her or being in a relationship.
I'm sorry, but I wouldn't want to raise another man's kid.
[–]gottie11 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Learn to use your Shift key and use paragraphs stupid.