You dont find the RedPill, the RedPill finds you ?

TheStumblingWolf · 2017-11-27T12:59:54+00:00

People don't want the truth, they want to feel the warm fuzziness of pleasant lies. The truth is like a splash of ice cold water in your face and it freaks some people the fuck out. I've always been a seeker of objective truth, so when I found TRP it felt like a revelation. For many others it's the cause of great discomfort. That's why there are such things as "the anger phase" and all that.

Mainstream culture right now favors women and feminism. TRP is a way for men to reacquaint themselves with masculinity, and this in turn makes it harder for women to be told they're little precious princesses. They see that as threatening, and so they want to stamp it out. Basically women are pulling a giant shit test on the western world/men.

I had a conversation once with a guy, about his girlfriend. He reminded me a lot of how I used to be. I spilled a little RP truth here and there (as was relevant to the topic) and he eventually looked at me and said "look, I know you're right about everything you're saying but it's just so...unpleasant" - meaning he'd rather continue in willful ignorance.

All you can do is be the best version of you possible, and serve as a role model to others.

majorketone · 2017-11-27T15:03:46+00:00

I'm 19 and one of my best friends introduced me to TRP and I'm very thankful. However, I tried to pay it forward and introduce it to another friend and he only makes fun of me for it and even recently tried to shame me for it in front of our friend group. So it can go either way but I like to think I am proof that introducing someone to it can be beneficial.

boo_radley_awesome · 2017-11-27T16:57:15+00:00

This is a completely legitimate concern and a valid query. But it's kind of like The Matrix, no (to borrow from the same allegory)?- "No one can be told what the Matrix is, you have to see it for yourself."

Sometimes, being told isn't enough. You have to have something awful happen that acts as a sort of catalyst for you to then discover the truth. It's personal. It's raw. And you can't unsee it, as much as you'd like to.

Then (not to go too crazy with movie metaphors here), there is also the Fight Club aspect of it AKA secrecy. Make no mistake, TRP is a giant support group for men. We are the ones who make it better, stronger. We're the face of the movement and we apply it to our lives in everything we do. So what's that rule about Fight Club again? Oh, yeah... YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB.

Just look at the MSM and how crazy they become at the slightest mentioning of Red Pill or positive masculinity. Instantly, regardless of how strong an argument you make, you are villainized and made out to be some sort of misogynistic SOB.

I would say this: if it is another man (a close friend or family member) who you believe needs to be unplugged, then you, depending on the situation, gradually introduce him to concepts. Depending on the beta, it's a lot like giving your dog the heartworm pill- you have to smother it in cream cheese first so he will swallow it.

Hope this helps.

Lastly, do not fret that you didn't find it sooner. The point is YOU FOUND IT. Now fucking live it and apply it in your day to day. Do not waste the precious time you have in getting caught up over the past. Read the sidebar and fucking lift you beautiful bastard

IDGAFMentality · 2017-11-27T15:24:15+00:00

Simple. The sad truth is most people of what we like to call "society" are not ready and do not have the capacity to be truly unplugged. Almost everyone who finds the RedPill finds it at their time of greatest need, when they realize the game society forces them to play is fucked, when the blue pill doesn't work. In my case, I landed here after being what I believe at the time to be a perfect boyfriend and still watched my girlfriend abandon me and show no remorse. Not everyone is there yet. Not everyone wants to take the RedPill.

The choice between accepting the truth and living in a fantasy one is a difficult one. Few are ready to give up on the social programming they have accepted for the duration of their lives. Even fewer are willing to put in the effort to transform themselves into the people they were truly meant to be. The RedPill finds the people who need it most. The others either aren't ready or don't have the capacity to thrive here.

max_peenor · 2017-11-27T16:35:55+00:00

I see a lot of people are getting introduced to redpill quite early, 18, 16, somewhere i even red 14. But i am sure they are also finding it on there own.

Yes, and then about 9 months later you'll find most of them over at exredpill or blooptard land, upset because it didn't get them mad smash opportunities. Just because you read this or even post this, doesn't mean you understand it.

[deleted] · 2017-11-27T16:28:25+00:00

most people cannot and refuse to be unplugged until they get burned by reality.

if you told me all this shit back at the height of my blue pill days, i would have called you a misogynist. now i look back at how fucking delusional i was and just shake my head.

marian5567 · 2017-11-27T17:18:02+00:00

Let these suckers experience it first hand. That's the best lesson. Much better and effective than words. They will come to us, sooner or later. Bitches gonna bitch, cucks gonna Cuck.

gELSK · 2017-11-27T17:27:38+00:00

Every two weeks some jackoff asks the same damn question....

You can't fix other people when they don't believe they're broken. Since they honestly believe there is no issue within themselves, guess who has to be the "bad guy" if you try to change their worldview?

The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Business men, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system, and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

Read this love letter

BritneySmears · 2017-11-27T19:05:13+00:00

You can't teach someone who's never been to war to be a war veteran, and, you can't claim to be a war veteran if you've never been to war.

RPTA3498 · 2017-11-27T19:39:47+00:00

People want the steak and the lady in the red dress, not the barren nothingness of living in fear and soggy grits.

edit: would you have believed someone who told you all your views were wrong?

Hillarysdilddo_2016 · 2017-11-27T17:24:37+00:00

Talk to your average blue pill faggot.

Observe the tripe that spills from his slovenly mind. Unoriginal ideas. Talking points he heard on Colbert or read in the New York Times or saw on CNN. Absolutely vapid, completely hopeless.

When confronted with the truth they will straight up reject it. The new knowledge does not fit within the superficial framework that the bloopers have meticulously constructed. The parable of Plato's Cave applies here.

RP and truth are about pain. Something the BP world is averse to. The lies are about pain aversion--you're special, you don't have to change, you're good enough, women are special. Who, when dosed on feel good drugs their whole life, will accept a dose of painful reality? No one. Furthermore, they will lash out at you, as you directly are challenging their world view. You are bringing them pain when before there was blissful ignorance. You are the bad guy.

This brings my next point. Most people find TRP. They find it after their world is shattered. They simply are not ready for the truth, until that ignorant naivety, that ignorant bliss is shattered into a thousand pieces. Only then are they hungry for the truth. Many things just cannot be seen until experienced. Tell a young woman it is not love, it is just sex and see in her eyes how she does not understand. Tell the same thing to a 40 yo woman and see the instant understanding. Men are the same. As young men they seek validation, sex, love, relationships. But they cannot perceive truth due to their lack of direct experience.

The wisest men learn from others. The majority of men learn from experience. One of these ways is the best way to learn, but contrary to the human experience.

Tldr There is no need to proselytize. It would fall on deaf ears and will just ruin your reputation. It will dilute our following. We are the initiated. Let the hungry come to us where we will welcome them with open arms.

JYandeau · 2017-11-27T16:36:20+00:00

Unfortunately most men in the world are afraid of taking the red pill & are molded by society to take the blue pill. You can’t help a man that doesn’t want to be helped.

strikethrough123 · 2017-11-27T17:48:01+00:00

RP your son, sure. RP your friends? Hell no. The more beta cucks out there, the less competition for me. Let the BP take its toll. When the pendulum swings in the other direction they'll be flocking to us like moths to a flame.

zeussingh · 2017-11-27T18:26:25+00:00

I feel like I and a lot of friends were naturally red pilled. We just observed red pill phenomena happening around us and would just talk about it.. The ol "locker room talk" thing.

By naturally observing red pill things, I mean seeing things like that cute chick dating an asshole, taking care of him, spending money on him etc.. Using guy friends for attention or acting like they want to date/terretorial when said guy friend meets a girl and they're smitten. Just being aware that having muscles and being strong is an attractive quality and that spineless femboys aren't attractive. Women like seeing men fight for something-it turns them on. Most of this stuff was common sense to my friends and I. My mom even told me some of this stuff.

However, I did have that "unicorn" and "NAWALT" belief still, merely thinking it was just my social environment that propagated those stereotypes.. Which to a degree is a little true, but at the end of the day AWALT really. Like some chicks prefer guys who are into academics and "high culture" stuff versus a meathead tough guy who likes bud light and sunday football.. But at the end of the day, hypergamy and branch swinging is usually your fate unless you got a really good handle on the situation and her mother/parents set good example for their kids.

DJGammaRabbit · 2017-11-27T18:09:28+00:00

The best thing I got from here was to stop giving so much a shit about this projection of a false reality. It's uncovering the wool from your eyes. The best thing that I got from here is a feeling of freedom; that I can succeed if I want to but also doesn't matter if I don't. It doesn't actually matter if you do or don't have X because some other guy will have Y. AWALT. After that...you don't take anything personally. Understand the mind to predict the behaviour so that when shit hits the fan it's not some wallop of a surprize, it's more of a laugh.

general_derez · 2017-11-27T19:53:44+00:00

I'm what most people would call a "conspiracy theorist". I found this sub by googling for "Red Pills" about the global occult control system we are born into. Read the sidebar, had multiple epiphanies about my relations with girls and women, now I'm here to stay. So yeah, I guess you could say TRP found me, but not in the typical way.

The gender dynamics red pill is huge guys, but it's only one piece of a much bigger puzzle.

vengefully_yours · 2017-11-27T20:24:35+00:00

To put yourself in a perspective where you can see why, realize that you are an atheist. Even if you believe in a god, you do not believe in all the other gods, and you do not accept the ideology of feminism/social justice/political correctness,, this you're atheist in all those areas. If you do believe in a god, think of how you react to those who do not share that belief. It's probably the same way you will be treated if you speak against the feminine imperative.

RedHoodhandles · 2017-11-27T20:58:36+00:00

You can't rise from the ashes if you've never been burned to ashes.

TRP_mask · 2017-11-27T15:45:00+00:00

One of my closest friends introduced it to me when we were drunk, said I should read 'how to get laid like a warlord'. Only half a year later I seriously started reading TRP because it started to interest me (I'm 17 btw). I'm sure you have a few close friends that will support you no matter what; those are they guys you can introduce. I'm trying to introduce it to my best friend, but even if he doesn't want to swallow TRP, he won't judge me for it.

On the other hand, better don't get too many TRP males. We will stand each other in the way lol.

systemshock869 · 2017-11-28T04:34:30+00:00

Yeah pick a friend with the most fucked up women in their life, and they'll still crucify you for even suggesting that they think about this stuff. The only way to do it is by experience or by teaching your children. One cannot be told what the matrix is; you have to see it for yourself.

ImYourMajesty · 2017-11-27T17:43:55+00:00

I am 18 yo and I found it just a few weeks ago. I have already seen to an extent what not following the pill does and I usually see it on a daily basis at school. It's a pretty entertaining community at the least.

mountan4368 · 2017-11-27T17:56:25+00:00

I was introduced to the RP/mgtow by my two younger brothers about 2 years ago. It took a while to swallow it whole. When I did I felt the same as you and told a few people about it and it did not work out well. I now think it is not a great thing to tell your friends about. When my son gets old enough I will tell him about it 100% and am now giving him bits and pieces that he can handle.

skydragonwhore · 2017-11-27T19:30:28+00:00

If women hate men taking the Red Pill, then maybe they shouldn't treat men so badly in the first place.

InformalCriticism · 2017-11-27T19:41:59+00:00

Take some comfort in realizing the newer generations are given access to far more than the older millennials, like you, ever were. They are witness to the destruction society has been wreaking on men through marriage and hypergamy. It's kind of out of the bag. Young men these days won't need a concentrated dose, since they get it little by little on their daily social media feeds.

Your philanthropic reaction is not the first. A lot of people don't want what happened to them to happen to any other man, even if it was just a wasted decade.

If you want to make an impact, think small, first. Do a big-brother program to test the waters and see if TRP is even compatible with generation Z, or if you're just preaching to the choir. Chances are good that you might actually be learning from them more than the other way around. Millennial men got ass fucked from every angle imaginable. From the '08 recession to A solid decade and more of feminist indoctrination throughout our childhood, to females who had adopted completely own-group-biased and selfish ideals that enslaved men who made themselves targets with the principles they were taught would make them honorable men.

Not preachin', just sayin', not every man is doomed to go through what we had to, and the information is there via example. Feminism is getting a bad name, and people are taking notice of the reasons why.

SoulRedemption · 2017-11-27T19:20:38+00:00

I don't agree with the title phrase "You don't find the Red Pill, the Red Pill finds you".

I will not and cannot introduce Red Pill to a person I know personally due to the backlash it might receive. I've said this before, that I generally recommend Red Pill to strangers on Reddit/online if I feel like it might help them.

If I was to do it with people who are close to me, I will need to first stop a few truths and ideas and see how it goes. Yet be cautious of how they might react if I go full Monty. So maybe share am article with them and later let them find out where it is from. "Accidental". In my life there is maybe only one close friend who I know might take something out of this. The rest are too obsessed with "knowing everything" already.

GayLubeOil · 2017-11-27T12:14:06+00:00

If you don't understand why we don't prosthelytize the Red Pill you are too much of an idiot to comprehend meaning of Red Pill or it's philosophical anticednt Plato's Cave.

You have no idea what the Red Pill is. It's highly unlikely you have what it takes to read and internalize the sidebar. Do yourself a favor and go back to drinking beer and watching sportsball with your median iq Normtard friends.

[deleted] · 2017-11-27T14:53:49+00:00

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DamnDatAssSoFine · 2017-11-27T20:35:20+00:00

Though if TRP makes you bitter, you’ve gone wrong somewhere.

If you feel bitter after TRP, you’re still in your hopeless/helpless stage.

gELSK · 2017-11-27T20:19:43+00:00

// , It seems like it's time to do as ChumpLady.com did, and find out what keywords are leading people to websites with this train of thought.

1BadDayAway · 2017-11-27T20:26:36+00:00

I can’t even tell you when I found TRP or what was my first read but I can tell you it was around March or April when I started taking the steps to get over an ex. If you were to tell me about TRP a year ago I would’ve called you all types of names and disregarded everything associated with it. Now, I am still in the beginning phases of it yet I’m a lot better than I was a few months ago. It is a toolbox but a toolbox is only as good as its owner. Use it at your own discretion.

suske127 · 2017-11-27T21:29:57+00:00

I can say from experience - a friend of mine who I tried to "Red Pill" ended up resenting everything TRP and thinks we're all assholes and such, like the typical guy who hasn't explored here.

I myself, was never "introduced" - however an old buddy of mine brought it up in a conversation one time.

"Dude, what you're saying sounds exactly like the red pill."

"The red pill? What's that?"

"Look it up on reddit when you get home"

The rest is history

Trixem_fixem · 2017-11-27T22:00:58+00:00

I think the real deal is that you can tell people about trp, if they ask you for advice. You can't just go handing out advice, people don't really appreciate that. The same goes for politics. Just make sure people respect you and they will respect your opinions.

tam8a_tomato · 2017-11-27T22:56:07+00:00

I got here by the top post when it happened in r fpua (it's worth the short read, even the comments with an open mind) through my main account. Never posted here from it, but have many saved posts so I have to do a ctrl+f one day and save them all to this account to organise it.

[deleted] · 2017-11-28T06:49:53+00:00

I first discovered TRP when i was 17. A few months later still havent swallowed the red pill yet at all, just like reading stuff on this sub because some concepts involved are often quite interesting to think about. Plus I'm not terrific with girls at all.

I really think this is a classic example of the Streisand effect. The fact that the entire media tries to protest its existence because of its supposed misogyny makes it a hell of a lot more easier to find. I'm not gonna deny that's how I initially found out about it.

And no, i would never tell a friend about this because of the terrible media coverage this sub gets, and word spreads faster than the wind when you're in high school, and I feel at this age, people (including your friends) are a lot more judgemental of what you do. If i told someone who I consider less likely to tell, the whole grade will most likely end up thinking that i think it's ok to rape people or something equally bizarre.

Yeah i guess i really agree with op here. You have to discover the red pill by yourself.

[deleted] · 2017-11-28T11:24:39+00:00

It's not men vs. women like some sort of gender war.

It's you vs. the world.

TRP is knowledge that (should) result in your sexual strategy being changed and improved. When people finally become disatisfied with their results in any area, they will look for solutions.

What we shouldn't do is proselytize. I have nothing to gain by converting people, nor do any of you. The fact is, people hate unsolicited advice. They will resent you for giving it.

The better move is to use the knowledge you have to improve your situation. Have great sex lives, great relationships. Get promotions. Be successful in every part of you life and be the shining beacon. Let the rest learn through pain. It's the best teacher.

Project_Thor · 2017-11-30T09:51:56+00:00

I hallucinated TRP during a shroom trip and it was one of the final revelatory tasks that I had to do.

courtesy_flush_plz · 2017-11-27T13:31:28+00:00

So you have demonstrated a clear breaking of frame AND abuse of assumed power. Instead of making a realistic comment about my obvious length of time since reading the sidebar that I MENTIONED right off the bat. Why are you coming off as so bluepill?

Title	You dont find the RedPill, the RedPill finds you ?
Author	zeussingh
Upvotes	161
Comments	109
Date	November 27, 2017 11:59 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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