Depressed, suicidal, need your help brothers. Please take the time to read and respond I am at my last resort.

7pharaohs · 2018-09-17T17:19:33+00:00

You are in control of your destiny. The decisions you made are yours. You are letting 2 worthless people decide and control your fate. Let these two go from your mind. Life only come around once. Make it great. Let go of the rage. Turn away from the sauce. You are only 27. She gave you a gift here. She gave you yourself. Dont waste it. Many men get to be 50 to 60 when their wives divorce them, cheat on them or simply leave. Wasting 20, 30 years of their lives. You got yours back at 27. You arent depressed, or suicidal. You are wallowing in despair, anger, hate and doubt. Let go of them and be thankful she allowed you to trade 1 year for 30, 40 maybe 50 years. This is your freedom. Take it. Do what you want. Do what you love. Nothing is holding you back.

Sol_Install · 2018-09-17T17:21:25+00:00

It's time to turn your life around. No more fighting your rage and pain with liquor. Clean up your diet and focus on becoming successful. No more drinking. No more thinking about them. Your goal now is to get your life back on track. That means focusing on what makes you happy. This does not meaning seeking revenge. If you had posted a lot sooner, I would have told you to never bother texting her, cut contact, no drinking but it's too late. Yes, it's unfair. Yes you want blood. I have been there myself wanting to crush my ex's skull into the ground. Yes, even thinking about killing her makes me happy but I never acted on it.

If you think your life is in ruins now, if you act violently against either of them, you can end up in prison for YEARS where you cannot even SHIT when you want without worry. You were betrayed. You have every right to be fucking PISSED. But this will destroy your life in the end. You are still a free man. You have to clean up your life. Focus on goals to make money, spend your time doing things you enjoy. One step and day at a time.

captainsaveahoe69 · 2018-09-17T17:30:48+00:00

When you are 50 you will look back and this and laugh. Trust me, perspective is a great healer. Go and make a success of your life.

zero5hole · 2018-09-17T17:48:24+00:00

The best revenge is to live a goid life. Don't let the bitch win.

drizztdourden420 · 2018-09-17T17:28:27+00:00

Don't do it. Focus on yourself and getting better. They work at a fucking BAR. They're both losers. Focusing on yourself and your own success is the best 'revenge' if that's what you want. Get help for the drinking and ask your therapist for a good mentor that can help you get back on track.

Focus on attaining a better version of yourself each and every day. The more you do, they more you'll realize how little they matter and how more and better people will inevitably be part of your life, people that would never treat you that way in the first place.

Read books by Rollo Tomassi 'The Rational Male' and watch Entrenpeneurs in Cars on YouTube for advice on how to handle different situations. Take control of your life. You'll soon be outpacing the ex and your shitty "Not Friend" and you'll be wondering why you even cared about those losers.

The best way to move on is to focus on other things, mainly, your own self betterment. If you pursue that with a single-minded determination then you can't help but succeed. It's up to you and it won't take much. Just start off with easily achievable goals each day and go from there. Maybe pick up Jordan Peterson's book on 12 Rules for life, or other books that help you focus on getting great and feeling good about who you are as a person.

It's ok to give yourself a break and forgive yourself your mistakes so that you can move on from them guilt free. We all make mistakes, just don't repeat them.

If you do these things then a year from now you'll be looking great, feeling great, and wondering why you let two shitty-ass people have so much power over you in the first place. Don't ever give anyone the power again.

Best of luck to you, and to you as a future success.

astuteglute · 2018-09-17T17:14:34+00:00

One day at a time. Find a goal 2 years time frame to occupy this, one 5, one in ten. I can hold my breath for two years. It'll done and over with shortly. In the meantime get the fuck off the bottle.

Science4Lawlz · 2018-09-17T17:57:20+00:00

Brother,

I'm going to give you simple steps. They say the best advice is simple and easy to execute. If it's not simple then it's not worth anything.

Cut off toxic people, there are no exceptions, none!
Figure out a goal you want to obtain, no matter how crazy it may seem. Fuck people.
Start talking to yourself in a positive way. Notice all negative self-talk and journal it. Be your own best friend and tame your subconscious mind.
Journal, journal, and journal. This will help you see yourself in a third-person perspective. Try to extract quality from your experience. Self-knowledge is quality based, not quantity based.
Imagine daily where you want to be. Take 5-15 minutes a day and visualize yourself where you ideally would like to be. Take 5 minutes to relax your body (release all tension) and calm down then visualize. You're literally moving the Universe in your favor.
Read, read, read, read, and read some more. This will help you see yourself in a broader perspective and understand that your problems are nothing compared to what some people face.
Seek out people who are in the position you eventually want to be in. In that process, you'll find a mentor and before you know it, the past will be a distant memory.
Find a spirituality or philosophical system outside of yourself. It'll make the world's problems seem so small and give you an unlimited amount of power.
Pull energy from the Earth and the Sky. Walk tall, smile more, shake hands firmly, and look people in the eye. Say what you mean and mean what you say.
Lastly, stay positive! Sideline all negative talk. There's no time for that self-pity bullshit.

Without knowing it, you'll become the person you imagined yourself to be. Weak minds will call you arrogant, strong minds will call you a colleague. These are all techniques I've used from trial and error. I have another post somewhere on here where I go into more detail but this is a brief overview. This is from lots of reading and life experience. Walk on brother!

georgesoyros · 2018-09-17T17:38:47+00:00

This is what she (and he) wants. She wants you to feel miserable, depressed and have a shit life.

Why?

Simple.

She cheated on you with a good friend of yours. They both feel guilty, but don't admit it to themselves and each other. And of course they don't admit it to you either.

Now... What is their tactic to cope with this?

Blame you for those innocent texts.

Why?

Because you should be mad and angry with them, so they have all the reason to tell themselves, each other and maybe even others how much of a shitty person you are.

Newsflash: you aren't. They are.

But they can't live with it. They can't live with the guilt they're having because deep down inside they know that they messed up. They know they treated you like scum, and only went for their own pleasures.

So they want you to get pissed, angry, insane... So they can tell themselves: "See, he's the asshole here! We made the right choice. We have all the right in the world to be happy together."

They still feel miserable probably, but the more you rage against them, the more their thoughts are justified for them. Again: "See, he's just a raging lunatic. We made the right choice."

How to solve this?

You need to realize and accept that this wasn't your fault. At all. You didn't do anything wrong.

You need to realize that the best revenge is to forgive them. Yes, you read that right: forgive them.

Why?

Simple. Your own peace of mind. By forgiving them, you're making yourself king of the situation again. It's your life. It's your mental health. It's your energy. Ain't nobody going to take away your crown. Life's a bitch, but you're still standing. Nobody is going to mess with your head. Nobody.

Of course... Revenge, yeah I understand... But that's only for a little moment. It'll only give you a minute of joy, maybe.

Forgiving them? That lasts for eternity. But you need to make sure it's genuine. Really forgive them. You don't have to accept the situation, because yeah, those people fucked up pretty bad... But to forgive, is divine. Nobody can take that away from you.

If you forgive them, accept the situation you're in now, make plans for your future, for your own life... Then I'd say that is the greatest thing you can do.

And the best part... They won't see it coming. They're back to square one and there's a good chance they're going to feel guilty again...

Because after all, 'that lunatic' (you) isn't mad anymore. What?! How did that happen?

It's your life. Rise above the situation. Life is a bitch, death is her sister. You'll walk out of this life with your head up.

badjoojuu · 2018-09-17T17:32:33+00:00

Cant tell you anything that anyone else on this reddit hasnt already. Focus on your health, wealth, and personal circle above all. If you want the final revenge against the bitch then picture this: Wahmen always check up on those they hurt roughly a year or so after the incident. It gives them an emotional uplift knowing they hurt someone to the point of no return. When she goes to check your fb, instead of having posts of self pity and shit.... work to have them filled with pictures of you living life to the fullest. Im talking the random road trips doing anything and everything (except women of course). She WILL try to contact you to monkey branch. But it WILL be up to you to fall for her bullshit again or get the satisfaction of getting the last words in.... as in " LOL FUCK OFF BITCH".

MenGoingTOWin · 2018-09-17T17:54:05+00:00

You aren't getting another shot. But there are no real mistakes, the only mistake is not taking the opportunity to learn from them. You need to take responsibility for where you are, and work to get to where you need to be. Nobody is coming to save you, nobody is coming to rescue you from yourself.

You need to stand up and take responsibility for where you are and map out where you want to be. Set a series of small goals and take them one day at a time, so that you are always moving forward, always learning. You have the gift to better yourself and to elevate above your station as a human male -- no other creature on Earth shares this gift.

It's already been shown to you the way you were living isn't going to work. You need to make changes. You need to decide what is important to you, and how to get yourself there. Every day you take one step forward, no matter how tiny, is a step closer to where you wish you were.

Killing yourself is going to get you nowhere, it's giving up. It's being a woman, "the world won't bend to me so I won't have a part of it!" Sorry but the world is a lot bigger than you. You are just a cog in a great machine through your interactions externally. The only way up is internal.

You are not a snowflake. You are not unique and dying. Nobody is going to regret your death and change the world so that a future person of your choices would be able to reign free destruction. They only see the external -- and what you are presenting is something to be rid of this world. Don't be that. That's not you. You have great things to do. It's going to be hard now meeting those goals, but that's good: you needed a hard slap in the face that your previous goals of drinking and driving and women weren't the right path. If you had accepted them the first time you wouldn't be in this situation, so the consequences got worse until you would accept them. Now you're at the point that you're either going to accept nothing at all forever or you're going to start working on getting over those delusions that you ever needed those destructive behaviours, those feminine behaviours, and you're going to start working on becoming a man, a constructive person, both unto society and more importantly unto yourself. What will it be?

Also, a related poem to bring you cheer!

AppreciateYa · 2018-09-17T18:10:32+00:00

Bro, at 27, I had a $20 hr, dead-end job I hated.

I quit my job, loaded my car with my camping gear, and went on a crazy ass road trip across my country.

I ended up living in a tent, going broke, getting a credit card to live off, before getting a blue collar job at a factory for 6 weeks, to pay off the credit card-- while living in a tent.

Then, I drove to a different region of my country to try and get a real job. I lived in a tent for a month while applying for jobs. Got a corporate job at $50k/yr. It was decent at first but eventually sucked.

So, I kept moving. Kept working on my skills (self-taught via online tutorials, ebooks, videos on youtube to learn web programming). Even took classes at a university.

NExt job? $100k. Got laid off.

Now I am interviewing for a job tha tpays $120k just a few months later.

During those months guess what... I lived in a tent, but kept building my skills. Now I am able to build my own web applications. Soon, I'll start my own company based on the business systems my applications provide. I'll hire people to work for me.

I could have given up when shit got tough. But instead I said fuck that, I am going to keep building myself into someone I respect.

Skills bro. Thats all a person needs to be successful. Skills which are in demand by the economy that surrounds you locally-- your local region is specialized in something. Or a few things. Those industries or job positions which pay highly-- get into that. Or, get into the stuff which you A. somehwat enjoy doing, B. pays somewhat higly and C. is somewhat in demand in your local economy (substitute somewhat with 'very' and youll be kicking ass)

Btw, I also had a DUI. I had to do a 3 month alcohol/drug program to keep it off my record. That shit cost me about $4,000 between police fines/program payments.

Listen to some Jordan Peterson. Listen to some Eric Thomas.

Get your mind in the game, bro. Choose some new goals. Make them your focus. And you will get there-- just like me. I accomplsihed my goals and had to pick new goals-- that's where I am at now: working towards my next goals. Once I get to that point guess what... im gonna choose new goals and work towards them :)

I lived in a tent several times in life. If I don't get the job I am interviewing for today... I am sure ill get one within the next 1-2 months. Why? B/c I have the skills they need.

Change up your mentality-- your focus isn't on the thing that will bring you prosperity.

What will? Skills, Goals, and positive thinking. You can do it bro.

Plenty of ppl have been through worse and made it out way ahead. You ever been homeless? I have, several times. Hell, I practically am right now. I am broke as fuck. But working towards my goals, so it's all good :D

20cansofSpam · 2018-09-17T17:14:19+00:00

The past is past. Move forward. You are better off without her.

manhatten2012 · 2018-09-17T17:17:42+00:00

The best revenge is to show her that u have moved on and made something with your life.

But never look back and she will come back to you and then just say “ no thanks”

Infinitewisdom1984 · 2018-09-17T17:49:35+00:00

Anything you do which harms you or your life is another win for them. Do not retaliate against them, do not contact them, do not think about them. They do not matter anymore. From here on out your life is about maximizing your purpose and living a life that you want to wake up to every day. Set short term and long term goals for yourself and set out to tackle them one at a time. You are only 27 years old and you have no ex wife or children, no baggage of that kind. Get in school, learn a trade and go make some money. Stop drinking alcohol, shit is poison.

BangkokBeats · 2018-09-17T18:20:47+00:00

Some great comments on this thread good work guys. OP you’ve got this I’m sure in a couple of years time you’ll have outgrown those losers and will look back thanking your lucky stars you don’t have shitty people like that in your life anymore.

Ketsa · 2018-09-17T18:23:27+00:00

Learn about meditation or mindfulness.

NatSoc16 · 2018-09-17T18:23:55+00:00

You are lucky you’re not in prison. 3 DWI’s in TX is 25 to life with a bad attorney or 10 years probation. I was on probation for a felony evading arrest in a motor vehicle and got a damn DWI. I went to east Texas to a “cognitive rehabilitation” for 4 months called ISF or Intermediate Sanction Facility... but it was basically a prison with AC and you could not fight at all. This was all just to avoid a felony conviction. I completed the rehab and finished out the remainder of my probation in January 2017. Did the classes and shit, It was really nice to finally get off papers.

Though it seems tough right now, it’s pretty easy. Quit drinking NOW. Just stop. Start smoking cigs or whatever you have to do, just don’t fuck up probation. I really suggest working out. You can spend hours in the gym and lift weights and it’s actually very rewarding. Alcohol is a depressant and once you stop, you’ll feel better emotionally.

Now, I have a cozy 9-5 making good $ all because I avoided the felony. Idk how 3 DWIs looks to a corporate employer but you should be able to line up something worthwhile once you are off papers or at least you can in TX. For now, deal with this man. I always say, the easy way out is just that, easy. Fuck easy. If God or death doesn’t take me when it does, suicide definitely won’t get me. There is no level of lowness or despair that could bring me to do it unless I’m beyond elderly or actually dying. Trust me, I’ve thought about killing myself, plenty... but it just doesn’t equate to being worth it. My life for all this bull shit I’m going through? I don’t think so. More like, fuck no.

Hope this helps. Not trying to be too sympathetic. I’ve been there. If I can do it, you can.

EqualityBites · 2018-09-17T19:31:49+00:00

You know she's gonna fuck him over too right? He's gonna get burned twice as hard as you did. Happens every time.

Lexeklock · 2018-09-17T22:13:39+00:00

I hate to admit it and its inly ever been twice or thrice that i told anyone about this story...so please let this be a lesson , not only to you , but also everyone who needs a life lesson.

Be me in early 20s....be shy, introverted and gets boored of people after 2 minutes....finds a random girl in the internet about 3 hours away.

A solid 2.5 maybe 3 at best....fat, short dark blue hair, emo style....drinks, smokes and all kind of disastrous behaviours and red flags that you d think of (she got them all)...... yet for some reason i didnt get boored, at all....like 7 hours of straight conversation and still couldnt get enough.

I myself couldnt know what was wrong with me, it was like i was under a spell or something...but talking 10 straight days to her for an average of 5 hours non stop and not getting boored was something i never experienced, even with old ex gfs.

A month in we were officialy together, i still have no idea how it happened til this day.

Fast forward another 3 months, and she tells me that she was with someone else, that it was only about sex and that she still wants to be with me.

How i felt that moment can only be destribed as getting sick from being force fed a barel of radiating elements. Never in my life have i ever felt rage, depression, anger, sorrow or despair as i did that moment.

Usually i am a very calm person, but in that single moment i was out of control. I took my phone , threw it at the window, broke both, took my computer, threw it from 3rd floor, went down, took it and started smashing it on the stairs until it shattered to a million pieces.

Nothing i did could calm down my anger, the pain was simply too much and i just wanted to end it all. Went to my mom's room...took her sleeping pills and took half the bottle at once...in my eyes suicide was the only out to get this misery to end.

I locked my room and just waited for something to happen, anything.

The only thing i remember is that i woke up 3 days later in my room with a headache.

My mom took a week to ask me what happened but i never really told her the truth...the truth that i was this fucking close to dying because of some girl.

It's not something that goes away easily, and it does leave a scare on you for ever, but if you can survive through this, know that you wont break again.

I only had music as my only real friend to get me through that , i didnt have friends to help me get up, my family was barely present at all and i am not someone to open up to people easily.

The point is; stranger; whatever happened did happen for a reason : to give you a warning about your priorities in life.

Nothing, no one, no matter how close to you, no matter how special you think they are, no matter how strong your bond is or was, nothing at all is more precious nor should be than your own self.

They will call you selfish, they will call you all sort of names, shame you and try to hurt you...but remember that your life, is yours alone to control.

Go your own way, bend but dont break, survive and live for yourself, you deserve it.

zero5hole · 2018-09-17T18:12:32+00:00

Yes sir! You’re rite I am lucky in regards to no children, mortgage, child support, divorce. I have quit the alcohol you are rite it is poison and I’m the one who brought that into my life. Thanks for taking the time to respond my friend. I greatly appreciate it. These comments have given me a new light and tools I can use to better my situation. Thank you fellow MGTOW

TerraEarth · 2018-09-17T20:12:06+00:00

They threw you to the bottom of the well, sure. But the only one keeping you there is yourself. Get up, dust yourself off and start climbing my lad and don't repeat the same mistakes you made in moving forward.

Find in yourself those things that give you the strength to move on, and focus your energy towards that direction.

Martel_732_Tours · 2018-09-17T20:28:58+00:00

'When you're going through Hell... Keep going'. Accept what has happened, put them out of mind and pursue your goals.

pnwhomebrewer · 2018-09-17T20:31:42+00:00

I have a dui and driving while suspended and decided to break off my probation. Jail was the best thing to happen to me and I learned more about life then in school. I financially wrecked myself to the point of only having $33 in my bank account but have come roaring back.

The first thing you must do is take personal responsibility for your own actions and happiness. Yes those people are shitty but you can’t control them. You can only control you and your thoughts. When you are ready to take that step you can start to build a life based on your mission, passions, hobbies and personal validation. PM if you want to talk.

tgdfhhjgrddghhffdfgh · 2018-09-17T20:59:27+00:00

You are young, lots ahead. You got in a bit of trouble, but nothing irredeemable, but you have to stop that now before it starts to look like a pattern.

Step 1: whether it is true or not, go to AA, got to any kind of alcohol treatment you can get through probation etc. Not for the treatment (you may need it and it may help you, or not, but the treatment is not the point.). The point of doing this is to be able to say, in 5 years or so, that all these convictions are a result of alcoholism and you are 5 years sober. That will reduce the impact of the convictions to almost nothing.

Step 1.5: never talk about how the girl or your friend caused this again, from now on it was caused by alcoholism and you are getting treatment for alcoholism. I believe you that they did exactly what you say they did, but if it sounds like you are blaming others no one will believe you or invest in your success.

Step 2: Step one only works if you stay out of trouble from now on! No revenge. It won’t improve your situation one bit.

Step 3: Learn a trade, welder, plumber, electrical, etc. You can make a great living and if you want open your own company doing these trades. Either way, you’ll make as much or more than most of your friends with office jobs and degrees.

Your probation officer can probably help you make arrangements for some of this. Also, they keep records along the way, you want that record to show you are seriously working on self improvement.

In 10 years you could own your own small business making a great living. No giving up!

TheLastMgtow · 2018-09-17T21:00:22+00:00

Ill send you help. Hold on there. You can also come to my country and live in my floor. I can give you food. All you have to do is workout and heal. It sucks but thats all you need. Think about it. Food and working out, away from everything and everyone. Sounds like heaven. For now, just hold on there because help is coming your way.

TheLastMgtow · 2018-09-17T21:05:46+00:00

Watch Count monte cristo. Know that this would never have happened were you a mgtow. And please hold on there.

ManIsWalking · 2018-09-17T21:07:01+00:00

My guy, your "friend" threw away y'alls friendship for some loose tail. Do not worry about what they are doing, get your life in order. I can tell you without a shade of a doubt she will branch swing from him as soon as a better deal comes around. Then that cunt of a friend will be sitting on the curbside thinking of killing himself. The difference is, he doesn't have MGTOW in him (no cheating soyboy cuck ever will). That's the "happiness" he deserves.

Don't ruin your life over a swamphole and a thief.

urban_hermit91 · 2018-09-17T21:07:16+00:00

Maybe this habit can help you take control of your life... I know it helped me.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/9c6htq/how_waking_up_at_430_am_dramatically_changed_my/?utm_source=reddit-android

t353tfb · 2018-09-17T21:13:09+00:00

You fucked up a bit, but the punishment is too harsh. Given time this will not be such a big deal. Until then, don't let the bastards win.

Agamand · 2018-09-17T21:14:37+00:00

I build myself a flowchart to become happy and stay happy.

RedCentreRat · 2018-09-17T21:31:05+00:00

I might sound like a parrot on here but I went through something similar. Set a short term achievable goal and start doing pushups. A few sets in morning and night with a change in diet. This pulled me out of my depression and rage phase and I have not touch weed or alcohol in over a year.

RuralNinja7 · 2018-09-17T21:33:47+00:00

I will try and do my best for you here with my advice. Firstly suicide is never the answer it only proves there point that you are “weak”, fret not we brothers are here for you. Secondly you are at the most bottom of rock bottom that you can be right now. But you can only go up from here. I’m not gonna bull shit you, it’s not gonna be a steady climb back up the top. There are gonna be hiccups along the way trying to throw you off course and send you back down to the bottom. Focus on yourself and what you love to do. If you only enjoy taking a walk then walk for a while everyday. You’re are still so young still so much to do. You are free of the chains that once held you down. Pursue what you want to do. Use these experiences as your teacher so that way you can carve the path YOU WANT! I hope for nothing but the best for you brother<3

Check out a man by the name of garyvee he is always giving great advice.

russpav · 2018-09-17T21:49:37+00:00

Get to some meetings and get some help and support. I know it’s easy to want to shut out the pain with drugs and alcohol, but I promise you it will only make it worse and prolong your suffering. Check out the sub r/stopdrinking if you want.

As others have said, you’ve been given a gift at 27. Channel this pain into healthy outlets and become who you were meant to be. No man achieves their destiny by focusing on the external and other people. Turn inward and find yourself.

Godspeed!

no_one_special_too · 2018-09-17T22:00:03+00:00

Once upon a time I felt the same way. Gave up my shot at college for her; gave up a chance at a great career for her; and she told me that she would dump me if her other flame were to show some interest in her. It felt as if the bottom of my world dropped out from under me. As if I'd lost everything and had no reason to go on.

You know what she did though? In making me feel as if I'd lost everything, she freed me. When you have nothing more to lose, there is no lower down you can go. You cannot lose anything because you no longer have anything to lose. You can either stay at the low point or work on climbing up.

Right now you are at the bottom of the well. Start climbing. It's hard; you'll still be furious and wish you could do something to get back at them for this. Just think though, after the rage passes, you have nowhere to go but up. And every step you go up is one you did all by yourself. All your work. You struggled but you succeeded. Isn't that worth living for?

Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat · 2018-09-17T22:02:01+00:00

Always remember: The thousands of men who collectively created what we now call MGTOW went through much worse. A modern divorce is a trauma like what you experienced x10!

I'm twice divorced and would honestly say that I'd trade your experience for mine in a heartbeat. For some reason, the male mind requires perspective...and your life going forward can be amazing if you realize how trivial a simple "break up" can be.

In fact, YOU as a man were evolved to breed and walk away to the next woman. Your DNA, your programming, is already capable of getting through this! MGTOW came about for a reason....and it will lead you away from this misery......

TheRabid · 2018-09-17T22:20:24+00:00

Stay strong and focus on the positives in your life. Get a dog.

Bathman00 · 2018-09-17T22:20:30+00:00

dude, a simple plan. finish your probation, your other charges, hit back at life, graft as hard as you can, build your stuff, you have time bro. dont let a thot get to you, you are a man, a man never quits.

TheDrunkSemaphore · 2018-09-17T22:45:03+00:00

I'm very confused by your post history, I'm not convinced you're not some creative writing major.

How are all your first submissions all major hits?

snowflake64 · 2018-09-17T22:29:36+00:00

Pick up a copy of Dante's Inferno. Following Dante's example pick which level of Hell they deserve to be in and what is the appropriate punishment. Dante gives a lot of good examples. Then decide whether you want to be in Hell with them and if so which level and which punishment. If you do not want to create a personal hell then you must learn learn how to suffer. The good news is that suffering is temporary. Humans can adapt to almost anything. Hell however, is eternal.

zero5hole · 2018-09-17T18:09:00+00:00

Thanks for this brother. You are rite I know I’m not unique and people would not miss me if I took my life. I would be a distant memory and they would win. I must grab myself by the balls admit my faults and move forward. It can all be so very overwhelming and disheartening but I appreciate you reaching out and your brutal honesty. Thank you sir and that poem is fantastic thanks for sharing

zero5hole · 2018-09-17T18:10:08+00:00

Will do brother thank you

zero5hole · 2018-09-17T19:31:13+00:00

I agree brother! The brother hood shown in these comments is the true essence of MGTOW

Swan_in_a_Cage · 2018-09-17T19:48:52+00:00

Next time, walk away. Attachment is the cause of all suffering.

zero5hole · 2018-09-17T21:07:46+00:00

Thank you brother this is great. I do admit I have the disease called alcoholism. This is because of my choice to rely on alcohol. I am attending shift at my church which is AA related and dipping in AA meetings here and there but need to more. I have 7 months sober and my sobriety is what’s most important now. Yes I was betrayed and thrown under the bus but I’m the one who chose to drink and handle it that way. You’re rite with the courts they want to hear that I took responsibility for my actions and turned it around. In 5 years I can be a whole new being with new opportunities. It’s hard to see that in the moment but I must try to see ahead of the moment. Thank you brother for this

zero5hole · 2018-09-17T21:40:48+00:00

Thanks for your time and input brother. Yes I am at the rock bottom and there will be hiccups along the climb back up but at least I’m climbing and reaching out. All these comments have helped give me hope and a new perspective thanks for reaching out

zero5hole · 2018-09-17T21:55:24+00:00

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orionface · 2018-09-17T21:55:34+00:00

Cool it with the booze man. I got my first (and only) DUI I will ever get a couple years back. Had fucking thing on my car for 9 months. Nothing that happened is worth killing yourself over, almost nothing is. Felt shitty every day I drove because of that fucking thing in my car but looking back it's honestly good that I got caught because I was being real fucking stupid driving trashed. I barely drink at all anymore, no need/reason/urge to tbh. You can turn things around. Do it for yourself and noone else.

Itisforsexy · 2018-09-17T22:40:41+00:00

Just a question, did you actually go to trial, or did you accept a plea bargain?

Even though gynocentrism is king, I do not believe a single text could have ever landed them a conviction. In fact, if you had refused the deal, they'd almost certainly have dropped the case, knowing they couldn't win.

Now if you had sent multiple texts, or tried to berate them in real life, that might be a different situation. Given your context though, and I say this for other men, always get a lawyer and consider fighting. The law / cops / DA are extensions of bullies in high school. They have more power now, but it's constrained.

R00TT00R · 2018-09-17T22:41:33+00:00

Basically any advice you are given here is going to boil down to "tldr go your own way" But apart from that we are all here for you. And I will bet good money that most people here will GLADLY Welcome you with open arms and speak to you about anything by nothing more than sending them a simple message. Myself included

bowlblock · 2018-09-17T22:50:39+00:00

I grantee you she or he will cheat. It may not be now, but maybe a year from now or even better after they marry. The point is both of them are thinking who will cheat.

Dregenfox · 2018-09-17T23:32:51+00:00

Give yourself a little time to think about your life. Feel sad, frustrated, angry, whatever. But consider what you could have done better or what mistakes you made, and what was in or out of your control. Life almost never turns out like you imagine in your head, don't beat yourself up over it.

Title	Depressed, suicidal, need your help brothers. Please take the time to read and respond I am at my last resort.
Author	zero5hole
Upvotes	62
Comments	90
Date	September 17, 2018 5:09 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/9gm72v/depressed_suicidal_need_your_help_brothers_please/
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