I used to be a Beta Bux and I can never forgive myself for it

BallsNemze · 2018-09-05T17:59:20+00:00

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TheRabbitTunnel · 2018-09-05T18:00:05+00:00

Instead of believing “all women are the same”, I chose to believe that the “poor girl” had low self worth

They all have low self worth. Dont confuse their narcissism for high self worth. People with high self worth have nothing to prove. They feel no need to upload 10 selfies a day. They have low self worth, so they love the attention from social media, because it makes them feel less worthless.

MenGoingTOWin · 2018-09-05T18:23:04+00:00

You have to forgive yourself. Hiding from the person you are means you will stay that way. You don't want to remain a beta bitch do you? You don't want to be weak, you want to be strong right? To do so you must embrace your faults. Accept that you were that way, why you were that way, and then you can work on not being that way.

And of course. Women don't experience love the way a man understands it. Loyalty and commitment are not things that are a part of a woman's love -- they are part of a man's. The less you give, the more she wants it. The more you give the lower your value. By giving her unconditional love and unconditional support and help you are pricing yourself at $0.00. Worthless to her. There are a million dudes who would do the same to her, but only some will make her work for it. She wants those who make her work for it.

I've been there man. I was real life captain save a whore for a long time. Maybe I'll share some of those stories one day.

But now you know how things are, your choice remains: Do you want to work on having relationships with a woman who you know is not capable of loving nor understanding you the way you need to be loved? Do you really want to abuse them, which is the only way to really attract them and keep them (as you saw with "Chad" here)? Or do you want to stop wasting your time on women altogether and learn to love yourself?

Please read this.

Sandbagicus · 2018-09-05T18:49:12+00:00

dude, it happens.

forgive yourself and move on. I sure as hell did.

Signed,

divorced 16 years, now have custody of kids, own the house, and get child support.

gone_for_years · 2018-09-05T19:07:00+00:00

Never assume that a woman is innocent or isn't a slut just because she is an introvert or she is shy. The biggest sluts are those who seem innocent at first. If she acts like innocent virgin towards you, then chances are she is somebody elses slut right now. Simple as that.

richbeezy · 2018-09-05T18:05:48+00:00

“She wanted to take things very slowly” = “I need more time to suck you dry financially and time-wise”.

yooshio · 2018-09-05T18:45:36+00:00

You'll get over it. Guilt is a horrible thing to carry around within a man.

Bill Gates told us that, "If a man is born poor it is not his fault. If he dies poor it is his fault".

MGTOW says, "If a man was born blue-pill it is not his fault. If he dies blue-pill it is his fault."

roxon89 · 2018-09-05T18:33:06+00:00

You are one of millions of dudes who have been duped in that way. There is no shame.

But men you know the truth. We forgive you. You should forgive yourself but remember what Jesus said, go and sin no more.

realChebz · 2018-09-05T19:35:41+00:00

You are forgiven.

Go forth and sin no more my son.

AllahHatesFags · 2018-09-05T18:59:52+00:00

Stories like this are why we need to find a way to Red Pill all the young men out there so that they can avoid this fate.

Chairman_Ellen_Pao · 2018-09-05T20:36:28+00:00

Chad the Bad, he gets all the women. Nicky the Nice Guy gets nothing. Men, don't be Nicky. Don't be nice. At best, you get used by women like a tool. You lose. At worst, they accuse you of being "creepy". You lose.

ransay3277 · 2018-09-05T18:04:08+00:00

I wouldn't worry about it celestialbeingeorge. Your still in the anger phase. Once you get past the anger phase, you realize greater awareness. You realize that getting mad at a woman for acting on her nature is like getting mad at a compass for pointing north. It's what they do. But being past the anger phase you understand such nature and adapt to it. Believe me, when you act out of understanding vs. anger, life gets so much better.

t353tfb · 2018-09-05T19:50:45+00:00

You are the ten billionth and one man to have that experience. Your choices are either to get depressed or to realise that the game isn't worth the candle right now. My recommendation is that you take a break from chasing women until you reach a point in life where they want you. If that point never arrives then so what? You need to organise your life so that you enjoy it and grow as a person in the here and now. This is a hard pill to swallow for a young man, but it may be that your life will not include women at all. Accept that now and then if you occasionally get laid see it as a bonus.

Ghustgan · 2018-09-05T20:22:10+00:00

It's all because of the brainwashing. Women raise simps on purpose and men raise simps because they're simps themselves. Even chads are simps.

Baldrbaldr · 2018-09-05T20:00:07+00:00

Forgive yourself for it. Then go your own way.

Older_Miggy · 2018-09-05T20:55:38+00:00

You have to forgive yourself. When you do, and start moving forward, you'll begin to see what a great life you still have ahead of you.

Some of us spent decades being simps. THAT is hard to forgive. It still pisses me off.

JohnnySkidmarx · 2018-09-05T19:18:27+00:00

You can forgive yourself. You have seen the light and now realize what you did wrong. Don’t repeat those same errors you made.

divorce33 · 2018-09-05T19:23:13+00:00

We need more field reports like this!

500dollarsinprizes · 2018-09-05T19:40:35+00:00

You are doing your part by writing it out for others to read.

Also, you cant improve what you cant see, and you see now who you were. You’ve made it.

rebuildingMyself · 2018-09-05T20:14:00+00:00

You learned about AWALT before marriage. Take solace in the fact that your pain, while intense, will eventually fade as you pick up the pieces and move on. Should you have to deal with this pain plus lawyers picking at your life's past (and future) earnings.... every man has his breaking point.

realChebz · 2018-09-05T20:26:33+00:00

You can't blame yourself, must of us been there. Blame the media and culture pushing this nice guy nonsense into your head.

RetiSetGo · 2018-09-05T20:31:49+00:00

Well, you're not doing it any more, that's all that matters.

iseehot · 2018-09-05T18:51:08+00:00

Rule 3 in the sidebar.

lolklolkgf · 2018-09-05T21:07:07+00:00

Sometimes education costs, money.

labiteatibit · 2018-09-05T21:12:49+00:00

Forgive yourself, but dont ever forget.

Gmann14 · 2018-09-05T21:11:05+00:00

Nonsense. We all were, brought up by Disney movies and lies. You learned thru life experience and know how it works now. Seek your own worth, chase your dreams/hobbies/money not pussy.

Relmtopper · 2018-09-05T22:28:36+00:00

Welcome to the movement brother. Glad to have you.

2018-09-06T01:00:40+00:00

The cuck stops here.

serenity_now_man · 2018-09-05T21:30:06+00:00

Yeah man, as an old beta I have many many of these cringe moments. It sounds like you wont collect them like I did.

512165381 · 2018-09-05T23:04:26+00:00

I was blue pilled for 40 years!

Then I discovered that my sister was secretly taking all my mother's savings. I was in denial and my brain could not understand how SHE could do that. Now I know a lot better.

Red_Pill_Dynamics · 2018-09-06T00:09:41+00:00

Sometimes it takes that moment of clarity to completely break into your being.

As a man, you were loving her the way you thought and felt; hence there is no wrong in that - at all. You're a man, we love differently then them and they don't deserve the way we love, not now & not ever. Fuck them.

So, there's no wrong in feeling the way you do - we have ALL felt the same way.

The reality is cold, but also liberating. So who gives a fuck? It was YOUR experience, as they all are. Your experience has shown you the TRUTH. And that, my friend, is what COUNTS the MOST. The truth.

So don't be so hard on yourself. Embrace the truth, forgive yourself and revel in the fact you're now red-pilled and know the way. It's better to know now then repeat the process only to have the bottom fall out again. That's what learning is all about.

Welcome home.

Good luck, brother.

jackIt66 · 2018-09-06T01:41:34+00:00

You gotta get burned by these hoes to truly appreciate MGTOW nature.

banned_by_cucks · 2018-09-06T01:54:46+00:00

You know, I've come to a point to actually be grateful to the women who've done me wrong no matter how invested I was, why? Because those are the women who will make your internalize the true nature of women more strongly and faster than even the most scientifically robust content on hypergamy.

BanMeIMakeNew · 2018-09-06T02:07:46+00:00

Man I could write some fucking cringe, you came out alright bro. I know simps that have been humiliated worse, and still stayed her little taxi driver. Literally driving the bitch to the fucking other guys house and the whole nine yards. Whats crazier, is that its my own father. You woke up and if you remain true, you have everything to gain.

neverquittable · 2018-09-06T02:46:00+00:00

Bro. I'm so sorry to hear this. That was me to the core in my blue-pill days, believing the best in women, and it makes me so fxking angry when I think about it.

It's almost like men (the decent ones anyway) have to be rational and reasonable, treating others how we would like to be treated. But women live on another planet. "I couldn't help myself"? What nonsense is that? That woman has no humanity.

It really pisses me off because it makes me wonder what's the point of even being a decent human being anymore when women are becoming degenerates? Sometimes I think we might as well all become animals, with the men killing each other for access to women, and the women fxking whoever wins each battle. Reading your message, it sounds like that woman is nearly there.

All I can do is sit back with a beer, and watch the decline, because at this point, it's probably too late.

deathtocontrollers · 2018-09-06T03:03:37+00:00

We were all dumb asses at one point in time.

Yasai101 · 2018-09-06T03:28:06+00:00

good job escaping the matrix my fellow dude. having these memories must suck.. but thank you for sharing for the next douche to think twice upon his actions.

syilent13 · 2018-09-06T04:35:44+00:00

And in that same raw moment you learnedwhy chad never gave a fuck when she dumped him

Megitgud · 2018-09-06T08:06:08+00:00

"Most innocent thing."

That's a massive red flag I learned to avoid early in life.

2018-09-05T23:10:28+00:00

OMFG. Sad sad story. Glad you are awake now.

Pk_s_to_the_yizzle · 2018-09-05T23:27:24+00:00

Don't blame yourself.

The tide of thots ahs to CRASH againt your ROCK OF PROGRAMMING.

And the tied doesn't BREAK THE ROCK.

It erodes it.

Truth of what happened Seeps through the Cracks. Into your sould.

Slowly makes the programming go away.

what's bad about it, is THAT IT TAKES MORE BAD EPISODES WITH WOMEN TO WEAR AWAY THE PROGRAMMING.

Be kind to your self. If you got to rage, rage.

I Raged and womanized like crazy. Took sex vacations, went to swinger parties, and the MORE TRUTH I SAW THE MORE I GOT MAD.

I thought it was an endless CYCLE, felt like a death spiral,

But it just ended, and now I'm way better.

Take your time. Be nice to yourself as you would a retard. Cause you were one in terms of female knowledge.

MajIssuesCaptObvious · 2018-09-05T23:33:35+00:00

Don't beat yourself up about it or you'll end up resentful and unhappy. What you need to do is learn to not invest so much in someone and focus on happiness, doing what it takes to make more money (education, work, investments) and your hobbies. Happiness and success are the best revenge.

TheSecondLesson · 2018-09-05T23:52:15+00:00

We've all been there, and--thankfully--that is what brought us here.

caem123 · 2018-09-06T03:39:41+00:00

Keep visiting this board and other sites like it. I do. It's like immunization from slipping back into blue pill world.

Dynastywar6 · 2018-09-06T03:49:28+00:00

May I ask what ever happened to her? How did the relationship turn out after that incident of seeing the Chad leaving? I'm just curious by nature, if you don't want to answer totally cool.

I hear you on the simp/blue pill, I was there once as well. Now never again.

GoDuke2018 · 2018-09-06T03:52:38+00:00

Always remember mgtow model, alphafux/betabux. This can save your life. If you are not chad or tyrone, you are walking wallet/atm soon to be raising tyrone thundercocks kids then divorce raped. #manout

2018-09-06T04:31:08+00:00

A lot of women crave validation, in its various forms, and the mistake we men often make is to attribute, or allow to be attributed, the woman's failings as our own.

If you are emotionally attached to such a woman, you just gotta bail on her otherwise it'll eat you up inside. If you don't care either way and she's bouncing on your boy, either bail or keep her sandboxed.

sidel3 · 2018-09-06T04:42:12+00:00

The first box you need to check off for internal validation is forgiving yourself.

dravenaus · 2018-09-06T05:26:11+00:00

Brother, you're out of the plantation. You found out the hard way, but still learned your lesson rather than simply move on to the next.

throwaway_ftb · 2018-09-06T06:39:41+00:00

this was painful to read man... glad u learned and wont suffer like that again.

cobaltcolander · 2018-09-06T06:48:14+00:00

Obviously he was treating her bad and she started looking dead inside. I white-knighted her hard. Wrote her a long ass message telling her she was beautiful and deserved better,

Technically, that's not "whiteknighting", that's called being an orbiter.

Language matters.

Playerhst · 2018-09-06T08:38:16+00:00

Well done brother for the growth you achieved.dont cringe while thinking your old self see how stronger you are now because of that experience.

jeffreywolfe · 2018-09-06T09:01:56+00:00

And my scars remind me that the past is real...

2018-09-06T11:25:30+00:00

Thanks for sharing

2018-09-06T11:33:46+00:00

She sounds like a pathetic loser, even by female standards.

bluescape · 2018-09-06T11:50:54+00:00

There is one thing I will say about this sub, you guys can be really really harsh on anyone that hasn't been redpilled yet. I'm personally a bit more sympathetic because I understand that not everyone knows what I know, not everyone is where I am in my journey, and not everyone is going to agree with me. They might even argue with me, but truth is truth, and if this were 15 years ago, I'd be right along side them, and so would many people around here.

In short, I think too many people around here choose anger and derision towards people that would have been them just a few years prior. I think stoicism and patience works much better in most situations. I'm not upset at the three year old because he's upset he can't have ice cream for dinner. I know what I know and I understand that he doesn't know...yet.

CerebralAbrasion · 2018-09-06T12:04:03+00:00

Don't blame yourself too much, you just didn't know at the time. Consider the suffering you went through as a valuable life lesson, accept that it's just how women are, and move on.

pahike · 2018-09-06T12:48:33+00:00

I’m probably wrong about this but I think everyone who has gone MGTOW has been there. Then there are those of us who see what other men are/have gone through and said nope, not me. Stay strong and focus on you!!!

OniiChanStopNotThere · 2018-09-06T13:23:35+00:00

It's ok. You didn't know any better. Your mother, the media, and school all taught you that what you were doing was correct. Be thankful that you know better now. Some men out there never wake up.

Cristi_Tanase · 2018-09-06T13:27:40+00:00

If you have learn from your mistakes, then is OK to forgive yourself.

Rimefang · 2018-09-06T14:23:51+00:00

Stories like this always fill me with rage, mostly because we were taught and trained to believe lies. My father taught me shit like this, and was basically Chad. He fuckin worked out like crazy, had multiple phone numbers, random women show up to our house: all while being married and preaching Bluepill 101. A huge hypocrite and a manipulator.

Ofc I have my own woman story, but usually the catalyst for this shit is society and who raised us to believe this garbage. Sometimes fellas, it's not the woman.

Caliban991 · 2018-09-06T15:44:55+00:00

Many of us have been in a similar situation. All you can do it stay strong and keeps your eyes open so you avoid being a white knight in the future.

We all learn this lesson the hard way. You may feel shame now, but eventually it fades and in time you will even start to feel a sense of vindication when you avoid falling into traps like this in the future.

FuriousStylesMGTOW · 2018-09-06T18:37:35+00:00

We've all been there. The disgust I have with the way I used to be is part of what drives me to be a better man today.

Title	I used to be a Beta Bux and I can never forgive myself for it
Author	celestialbeingeorge
Upvotes	268
Comments	85
Date	September 5, 2018 5:42 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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