Do you think women are even capable of true love?

ar10308 · 2013-07-07T12:59:20+00:00

I would define "True Love" as being willing to lay down your life for that person.

Would a woman lay down her life to defend her man?

http://therationalmale.com/2011/10/03/war-brides/

She will fuck the man who kills him.

cma6250 · 2013-07-07T11:26:14+00:00

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roe_ · 2013-07-07T14:42:26+00:00

Here's how it works in bullet points:

Male sexuality sees women as essentially fungible. On some level, pussy is pussy.

Female sexuality wants to see the man she's fucking as "special." If he's not awesome, why is she leasing out her womb to him, at great personal cost & sacrifice to her?

Females see male commitment as fungible. Resources are resources.

Males want to see the woman they commit to as "special," and it's super-important she is absolutely in love with him. If she's not awesome and worships the ground he walks on, why is he committing to paternal investment, at great cost and sacrifice to himself, and if she's not helplessly in love with him, she might cuckold him.

The way I see it, this basic difference in preferences underlies all male & female insecurities, and is the cause of the current problems between the genders (after you percolate all that through modern culture, and particularly, birth control tech)

Doctor_Illusion · 2013-07-07T15:29:02+00:00

Yes, they are very much capable of it. But you have to earn it, often on a day-to-day basis. I've had several women love me despite me fucking up constantly, getting thrown in jail, losing my job or vanishing for days. My ex wife cried herself to sleep for months when I left her, and still isn't over me after 3 years.

But you have to keep yourself up, stay dominant, and be an attractive, interesting, desirable man. When a man gets married, then starts playing Call of Duty all weekend long and gets out of shape....the woman has every reason to fall out of love with him, as he is unlovable.

drjohnno · 2013-07-07T14:10:32+00:00

Yes, I do. I think it's expressed via this thing we call "maternity". I also think that men believing or looking for a woman capable of loving them the way a mother loves her child are just a bit mistaken. Even worse, getting upset because they can't find such a woman -getting upset for not finding something that doesn't exist, if you get my point. It's really hard to get rid of social conventions we've invested ourselves in for so long, if not most of our lives. It all comes to the difference in meaning of the word love between men and women. Do you mean women are not capable of love as we men define it? No, they aren't. But just because we have a different definition of love that does not mean ours is better, or the "true" definition.

VianDawn · 2013-07-08T23:27:54+00:00

I know it's cool in Red Pill thought to not just remove women from their pedestal, but to completely write us off as uncaring, hypergamous, unrestrained, and unrepentant sluts who only care about what men can do for them, not for the men themselves. While it is true we are not angels, neither are we devils set on masculine destruction. We are humans, capable of love and bonding.

So yes, women love men. We do. There is a woman, in fact there are thousands of women out there who can and will love you for the man you are. I understand that you're afraid that no one can or will love you, that's a natural human fear.

I'm afraid I'm too worthless and broken to find love - heck, I've FOUND love and still struggle with that fear, but the fact of the matter is you're not worthless and you're not too broken. Someone will love you, you will love someone. It's not always going to be easy, it's not always going to be fluffy clouds and rainbows and love hearts, but it will be real, it will be satisfying and you can't let fear hold you back.

Good luck.

yankeetiger · 2013-07-07T11:40:30+00:00

I think we just love differently. Don't hate women for it, we are different to them and they are to us. You just have to realise it and understand the importance of being alpha. From what I see women often fall out of love when the man becomes too beta for them, and I can't fault them for that.

rebuildingMyself · 2013-07-07T10:25:39+00:00

Read this sidebar material right now

redpillschool · 2013-07-07T16:32:24+00:00

Read the sidebar women in love, men in love, and of love and war.

MTLSNowman · 2013-07-07T13:44:05+00:00

Love is a construct. To put it kindly, love is a lie that people make true. It is one of the most successful social technologies that we have made.

What you call love is something you built in your own mind based on your parents, books, movies, radio, advertising and your own experiences. Although your idea probably shares a lot of similarity with the next guy and girl (because they've been exposed to a lot of similar social messages as you have) it still is something wholly unique to yourself and varies wildly between individual.

Once you understand this and disconnect it from the weight of being in love equals happiness you can try to rebuild it to a definition that makes love a byproduct of your happiness, your success instead of needing that 'love' to be happy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_(love)#Popularization_of_love

Mitchell78 · 2013-07-07T15:58:39+00:00

Women are capable of opportunistic love if you can call that 'love'. To me it isn't.

lazlounderhill · 2013-07-08T17:50:50+00:00

I challenge you to define "true love" universally. It's an artifice, created by courtly love poets.

Bhorzo · 2013-07-07T15:05:44+00:00

Depends on how you define "true love". As an emotion, both men and women can feel "true love" "in the moment".

But as a form of commitment and loyalty, men generally hold onto it for much longer. It's much easier for a woman to "fall out of love" than it is for a man. A man can persist in his love if he chooses to - due to his sense of commitment and loyalty - whereas women let go of it much more easily.

As mentioned in this thread, long term unconditional love is usually reserved for a woman's children, not partner/spouse. Sure... both sexes can have unconditional love "in the moment", and often do, but if it fizzles away after a couple of months/years is it really "unconditional"? Compare that to a mother's unconditional love for their child that never fizzles out, even in the worst of circumstances.

projectself · 2013-07-07T16:22:50+00:00

love is real, you just have to define it properly.

love is a set of brain chemicals released by what you have trained it for. some people feel love when the partner is distant and they feel the need to chase. some feel love when there partner shows them atttention. either case it is the release of dopamine (the chase), the release of seratonin (the success), and the release of oxytocin (the connection and attachment). These chemicals come from the limbic system, primarily the amygdala. It is part of the fight/flee/fuck insticts that keeps our species alive. Love is a biochemical response to lifes experience.

Love does not last. It fades. It is real, and if you like and want love you will find it. It will be temporary and it will end. But if you still like and want mroe love in your life you can find it again.

The key is to not let relationships define you. You are you, you accept that and own that women will enter and leave your life but that no woman will ever be your life. If you want love and to feel loved, you can have that. As long as you never site of the big picture in doing so.

lono12 · 2013-07-07T17:07:22+00:00

I thought only women are capable of true love. I will never fall egoless in love the way girls fall in love. A girl in love treats her man like a king, put his life ahead of her own, don't even notice other guys, makes constant rationalization to forgive his bad behavior, forgives cheating, even violence and cries herself to sleep to the thought of losing him. That women can't fall in love with a beta doesn't mean that women are incapable of love.

theitalianstallion76 · 2013-07-07T12:06:23+00:00

t21spectre · 2013-07-07T21:11:59+00:00

Was listening to a sad song about love and realized I was sort of sad because I would never have that person in my life.

You need to unplug yourself from societal/media portrayal of "true love." None of it is real, it is that "fantasy" discussed on occasion and it does not exist.

"Love" is a hormonal psychological response, coming after Limerence, where Limerence follows Infatuation

2013-07-08T12:27:13+00:00

I think a lot of questions and answers should be rewritten as "are the smokin' hot women, the type you look at and think about sex, something something?"

The answer is for these types no, but some women can fall in love, but there is a good chance that they will look too plain for you if you are very sex oriented.

fuk_offe · 2013-07-07T11:53:29+00:00

They are, but it's not permanent. They are emotional beings, so if they are "trully in love", they are, however, that feeling might change in a week.

So... I guess not.

meltingtapes · 2013-07-07T13:39:42+00:00

Take another Red Pill

VZPurp · 2013-07-07T18:05:54+00:00

I think that women love conditionally. They will love a man as long as he is able to provide something for them, such as protection, a home, etc. But, as soon as the man is unable to provide for them (due to injury or illness, for example), they will move on and find another man.

If you really want to give your gf a shit test, ask her what she would do if you were diagnosed with cancer and had to undergo chemotherapy. You would lose a lot of weight, your hair would fall out, and you would probably have to quit your job. Ask her if she would stay with you through that or if she would move on.

jakethesnake76 · 2013-07-07T19:04:35+00:00

No, these children ( women) can't feel like we feel, but they can put us on a pedestal , that's the best you can hope for i guess ,then you can't descend down to her level..

anal_cyst · 2013-07-07T19:54:10+00:00

2013-07-07T21:38:16+00:00

If you ever think you saw Santa, won't you go check it out? See if he's real after all?

But do you actively look for Santa Claus? I sure would be quite surprised to see him IRL, and I may well be happy, but it's nothing that will shake my reality or [gasp] consume it.

I don't! I look at "love" and "women" in the same manner as I do Santa.

VZPurp · 2013-07-07T20:30:59+00:00

Absolutely not.

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