Are we about to see a rapid increase in MGTOW, like the Herbivore men in Japan?

nikopua · 2017-11-13T17:13:36+00:00

Yes. My nephew is Western European generation Z. Didn't date once in high school because society is so toxic towards boys. There seems to be a general consensus among these kids that women and girls are toxic and will only get them in trouble.

I never "red pilled" him or anything. He just has a natural hostility against feminism and all this progressive crap because he grew up in it. Was molded by it.

MGTOW is basically the only option his generation has...

Jarwanator · 2017-11-13T13:12:30+00:00

The Japanese govt. Has dating events.

TimVertex · 2017-11-13T14:40:46+00:00

The increase is already happening. To r/mgtow all the way to mgtow.com....Mgtow every where is increasing in popularity. Not on japan levels though. Maybe in the next 2 years or probably sooner

deadBeefCafe2014 · 2017-11-13T15:46:24+00:00

Feminism has overplayed its hand, and it will increase its burn rate until it is a meteor breaking up as it enters the planetary atmosphere. What will be interesting is to see just how hot said burn rate gets before it burns out. I expect this will exceed many projections.

I don't get the impression that Japan was poisoned by feminism in the same way the rest of the west has. There is no way a feminized society would have let something like hentai be created and popularized the way it is over there.

That said, I am already starting to point my boys to trade school as a viable career choice. The oldest son has interest in being an auto mechanic, and since I can carry him on my health insurance until he's 26 (thanks, Obama!) I fully intend to direct him at the trades. He can always add in college part-time later, at a much more affordable rate.

throwaway_2two · 2017-11-13T16:26:37+00:00

There are no MGTOW statistics that I know of...I like to judge by the fertility rate.

2015 Fertility Rates

Japan: 1.46 babies per woman

Italy: 1.37

Spain: 1.32

Germany: 1.50

USA: 1.86

Using fertility rate as a measure...most of the western world is already ahead of Japan...and if you look at just the white people in the USA the birth rate is lower than Japan. The attention given to Herbivore men is a shaming technique to get japanese men back on the plantation.

strangerthing7 · 2017-11-13T15:37:50+00:00

I saw cases in Japan where there are empty schools, like 4 children in a class that can seat 30, and it's not Just men, women too there choose to raise a pet rather than a baby. The cost of bringing up a kid in Japan is very high.

Teflon0819 · 2017-11-13T13:00:57+00:00

I’m curious wat effect has it had on Japanese women and society at large? Have the women done anything to entice men back to the plantation or are they just aimlessly wondering “where have all the good men gone”?

cleats4u · 2017-11-13T16:55:48+00:00

If they start taxing me more for being single I will start working less and they will get even less taxes from me. As a man I don't require that much. That is what the government and feminism doesn't understand. For every action there is a reaction. MGTOW is a reaction. Nobody wants to date big daddy governments daughters anymore. Daddy put to many conditions on dating them. Now they can just live at home with him and he can take care of them.

geocitiesuser · 2017-11-13T15:37:42+00:00

Not about to. We ARE. It is happening right now. IMO.

simplystimpy · 2017-11-13T15:22:04+00:00

Most likely yes. Word is spreading like wild fire, and the state can only manipulate social media to an extent, but otherwise the official talking heads cannot speak unchallenged like they do on cable news.

Where will you be when the Narrative collapses?

shit-zen-giggles · 2017-11-13T16:10:46+00:00

Yup. It's just taking longer because Japanese men were reacting to the economy and traditional values rather than pure shit in favor of females. Buying property in Japan is crazy expensive. Raising a kid is crazy expensive. And the only way to move up companies isn't by being smart and innovative, but but working their a long time. I mean they have a word for literally working yourself to death. So, it's no surprise they are opting out.

In the west, economics wise, we aren't too bad. None of the stuff I mentioned above is out of reach, so it takes western men to be screwed by the system to open our eyes. Women just have so much now, and the game is rigged to their favor, which they will all vehemently deny. So it's a slow creep, but it's affecting everything before society even realizes it.

2017-11-13T18:16:58+00:00

I'm pretty sure it's already happening, i remember when this sub had 26k mgtow, now we're almost at 40k.

we are becoming a genuine lifestyle choice, if i was a woman i'd be worried.

SomeGhostingGuy · 2017-11-13T17:28:48+00:00

For the cost of one alimony and CS payment you can get a decent gaming PC, a VR-headset and enjoy gaming like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC3mA93MNgU

2017-11-13T17:59:23+00:00

Personally, I think its already happening. MGTOW is simply men pulling back and reorganizing.

MGTOWinCambodia · 2017-11-13T18:38:59+00:00

In terms of people who feel some alignment with a "MGTOW movement": maybe a bit. Not huge.

In terms of men who naturally figure this out on their own and see little to no benefits in marriage: that's already exploded and will only get bigger.

mongolian_usa · 2017-11-13T18:41:33+00:00

Even though this is already happening, I'm still waiting to see when it's all out war between the feminists and the rest of the women who aren't. Women are downright cruel and vicious to each other as is.

Brothers, have the popcorn and beers ready ... I'll save you a seat on the couch inside my heavily fortified rec room!

juninikun · 2017-11-13T19:30:35+00:00

Give it 5 years and mgtows ranks will triple as all of the blue pill cucks start getting divorce raped for nothing.

Amnesia2508 · 2017-11-13T16:30:02+00:00

I don't know why Japan's government just doesn't turn around and restore traditional roles like they had a hundred years ago. Of all the developed nations they are in the best place to do something like that I think. I mean who's going to stop them?

Tyrone-Chaddingston · 2017-11-13T14:39:46+00:00

Too bad, subservient oriental women are the best kind.

K_J_K · 2017-11-13T21:51:58+00:00

The Japanese economy, workplace, and labor reauirements/expectations are primarily what drove the destruction of traditional relationships. Feminism is just insult to injury at this point.

If anything, Japan is an example of some very interesting economic implications, but I would also like to make it clear that it isn't the SOLE reason for the collapse of genderdynamics there.

AntiAbleism · 2017-11-13T23:39:29+00:00

I can see why it is growing. I’m not a MGTOW, but I see how toxic women and their male slaves are.

1UPZ_ · 2017-11-14T00:20:16+00:00

Have you seen Instagram comments though?

Those THOTs are getting 50+ year old desperate men comments that are sickenning. And I'm pretty sure they DM for sure.

So if younger men go MGTOW.... I can assure you, desperate cashed up 50 year old men, divorcees or willing to leave their older wrinkled women for younger sluts will replace them.

Just look at the comments from these wrinkled cocks, desperate.

And the sluts will embrace a sugar daddy they strip for but not sleep with... as they milk them until death.

letsriseup · 2017-11-14T00:40:51+00:00

MGTOW will grow, but not as fast as it has in Japan.

Reason is cultural. Macho masculinity is more deeply ingrained in Western culture and to break away from that into more intellectual territory like MGTOW requires deeper introspection.

Japan or Asian culture in general is more accepting of gamers and introverts who think more introspectively.

I know because I've lived in both the West and Asia for many years. The problem I see in the West is a lack of cost benefit analysis when it comes to women due to an ingrained culture of PC and pussy worshipping.

P4P is huge in Japan and other places in Asia that it's not hard to become red pilled.

Bodybuilders are actually valued less in Asia as opposed to the engineer who makes a lot of money. Asians tend to be very financially savvy so even the typical Asian nerd engineer can understand women better than a Western jock because he understands P4P and knows the true cost of pussy.

Whitepill-rescue · 2017-11-14T00:41:46+00:00

Yes, Japan is always a leading indicator for the west. What comes first for japan will come for the west 10-20 years down the road. For example, they had the lost generation recession in the 90’s, the west had the exact same thing in the 00’s. Japan had the MGTOW movement in the 00’s which gradually enveloped the majority of their male population, the west may follow suit in the 20’s

Are we about to see a rapid increase in MGTOW, like the Herbivore men in Japan?

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Title	Are we about to see a rapid increase in MGTOW, like the Herbivore men in Japan?
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Date	November 13, 2017 12:54 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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