Logistics or: How to kill your game before you even walk out of the house

Heathcliff-- · 2016-06-02T12:20:15+00:00

100% accurate. Good post. You must make the decision for the girl an easy one, the more hoops she needs to jump through in order to fuck you, the less likely it's going to happen. Opportunistic is a perfect description. If you're pulling at a club or a bar, the sexual tension will never be as high as it is when she's grinding her ass into your groin on the dancefloor. Every second you waste not getting her naked in your bad will just dry her pussy up. You must capitalise on the now and get the girl carried away in "the moment". Ideally she wants you to take her clothes off right away, and while club toilet fucks do happen, most girls want to be taken back to your place. Your place. That's another shit test. Wait for the girl to invite you to hers, never ask or drop hints. If your place is a no-go then accept you're probably not getting laid that night because you didn't have your logistics together. Act as if you're not desperate to fuck her either way (and you shouldn't be). You might get lucky or have good enough game to get a girl to take you to hers, but it's just simpler and easier to have somewhere to take her. If you're serious about game, don't make it harder than it should.

I once got picked up by a girl at a club (first and only time I've been approached). It was a uni night and we've made out and basically fucked on the dancefloor and I take her outside. She doesn't want to go back to her place, I say lets go to mine. We walk to the bus stop. We wait 15 mins for a night bus. 10 mins into the ride she gets off and goes home.

I remember taxis were a thing when I was sober the next morning. I was probably too broke for it at the time anyway.

Another night one of my flatmates brought her friend from Paris to visit. An impromptu drinks night resulted, everyone got pissed and I was running real French Girl game (TM) on the visitor. Sexual tensions run high and by the end of the night I knew she wanted to fuck me. Problem. My dorm room was a tip. Not presentable in any way. I'd got fucking lazy and hadn't cleaned up in weeks, not to mention my room was basically home base for my stoner friends and I. It was the kind of messy that would bring up red flags in any girl that came over, and a lot would leave.

I didn't fuck her that night, I played it cool and pretended like I'd lost interest. She left with her friend but didn't forget to stare me down as she was leaving. I got a FB add a few days later (she wants to fuk) but I haven't responded.

I lost the lay because I was too undisciplined and couldn't even maintain the simple task of keeping my room clean. I know some people would say fuck it take her anyway, but I have too much respect in myself to bring any potential fuck into a gross room. The lay isn't worth that much anyway.

Again. Once, I got a day off. Rare for me. I sleep in, wake up, jack off, fall back asleep, wake up and jack off again. Shower, breakfast, gym. Get back, eat, smoke a j, dick around on Reddit for a bit, see a post with a girl in it, jack off again, read for a while but then get itchy and jack off again.

Friends come round to smoke in the evening. We go downstairs to play pool. Hear a pretty loud party going on a few floors down. Crash the party. Run game on some undergrad cuties. Few hours later I have a blonde 10 on my bed. Clothes come off. She's an 11. Most girls never look as good naked as they present, this girl looked better. I get hard-ish. Put a condom on. Boner disappears. Keep trying, more foreplay, soft dick. We try it bare, nothing. She sucks my dick and gets my pubes all up in her mouth (always shave!!), tries to ride me, limp dick.

She was polite about it and left, but I know I'm going to be just another funny story to tell her friends.

Logistics, logistics, logistics.

Always be prepared for sex. Make the decision an easy one for the girl. Don't give her too many hoops to jump through. Always be prepared for sex.

Last week I met a girl at a flat party in my dorm. I chatted her up for a while, then abruptly left (distance yourself). I went up to my room, cleaned it and the bathroom, changed out the sheets. Went back to the party and resumed drinking. I've learnt my lesson now, and I like to make sure I'm always prepared.

dates_only_chinese · 2016-06-02T15:01:53+00:00

Very true, also plays into the whole "it just happened" from her side. A 30 minute taxi ride totally kills the spontaneity of the whole ordeal.

Different thing for FWBs though, those girls will fly across oceans to fuck you.

boscoist · 2016-06-02T19:09:15+00:00

Just like war.

"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics."

Gen. Robert H. Barrow, USMC (Commandant of the Marine Corps) noted in 1980

"Clearly, logistics is the hard part of fighting a war."

Lt. Gen. E. T. Cook, USMC, November 1990

"Gentlemen, the officer who doesn't know his communications and supply as well as his tactics is totally useless."

Gen. George S. Patton, USA

"Bitter experience in war has taught the maxim that the art of war is the art of the logistically feasible."

ADM Hyman Rickover, USN

"Forget logistics, you lose."

Lt. Gen. Fredrick Franks, USA, 7th Corps Commander, Desert Storm

mugatucrazypills · 2016-06-02T19:02:26+00:00

How to fail before you start !

Mystery, RSD Tyler, et all, and the whole PUA community talked this subject to death 10+ years ago.

If you're looking for an immediate lay, you don't pick a 22YO grad student who has to go back to her 'rents house in the suburbs by 11.

Likewise, per "The System" you look for the 1% that are basically DTF, and logistics supports, at that given time and focus you're energy there.

Lots of bent-dick griping posts on here about dudes worrying about how much they can lift or keep a frame of kryptonite when they've never even thought about logistics properly.

They're the RP community equivalent of the dumb bitches who start a little dress shop, fashion store, boutique with hubby's cash and expect to be successful without actually learning anything about retail or thinking about business.

You end up with a roadkill enterprise that couldn't have succeeded.

M1s4n7hr0p3 · 2016-06-02T13:40:13+00:00

This is how I pulled a lot of girls from campus. I was literally walking distance in an area where everything is a ten minute drive away. I also had a really nice place that I shared with a manchild who was never home and had a cute dog to boot (having a roommate with a dog is tits because you don't have to feed or walk it and the draw is still there). Since moving out of there it has become much harder to get girls to come back because I live 20 minutes away. A 90 minute ordeal becomes spending the night and not many are up for that.

arghx7 · 2016-06-02T14:56:30+00:00

Here's something I had trouble with when I was backpacking in Europe. To meet girls, staying in a party hostel is among your best options. But where do you hook up with them when it's 3AM? Get a hotel or Airbnb and your odds of meeting girls are lower.

metallica11 · 2016-06-02T13:53:51+00:00

Great Post, and a "minor" factor that is overseen by most men. Women want things to "just happen", and trying to struggle with logistics at the end of the night just makes you seem like you are trying too hard.

squidracer · 2016-06-02T21:27:40+00:00

Which is why drive a big truck with tinted windows.. They like the shiny rims and the large backseat

FrameWalker · 2016-06-02T15:37:46+00:00

Plan your dates with this in mind as well. Always plan to the end. Keep your home comfortably neat and fresh and same with your clothes. If your room smells good its very easy for them to get into bed. (Spraying axe isnt gonna do it)

My favorite logistics play is picking up girls and having them drive me and my roomates home provided the girl hasnt been drinking

poochman · 2016-06-02T16:06:49+00:00

How do you handle her cock blocking friends?

scf424 · 2016-06-02T16:38:33+00:00

My biggest pain point is that I live at home. Convenience for work/student loans etc. When I go out, I'm usually crashing at a buddy's place.

How would you handle the logistics here? Push for her place? Ask whomever I'm chilling with if I can use his place?

michael_wilkins · 2016-06-03T09:46:49+00:00

I live about a 20-25 minute drive away from the city and I've never had the slightest difficulty with logistics.

When they ask where I live I say "5 mins that way" or "The next suburb that way" and on the journey keep them entertained.

I've had 0 Women question why "5 mins" is so far or bail on me.

If your logistics are bad just lie and keep them entertained on the way home.

purduered · 2016-06-02T18:21:21+00:00

So how do you solve this when you live in a large city? Do you just make sure your place is close to the bars or the scenes where a lot is going on?

korewarp · 2016-06-02T18:14:42+00:00

Before this post. I didn't even realize why a girl turned me down some years ago. But now I see, and it all makes sense. Logistics were all wrong - and while it made sense to wait a little in my logical male head, to her, waiting 2 hours is like waiting years. Sad but true.

MattyAnon · 2016-06-02T21:46:26+00:00

True. Now show us how to handle it for best effect.

SpiderSwimMan · 2016-06-03T00:44:59+00:00

This is a great post! Just last week on asktrp someone mentioned to me I was making a situation harder than it had to be because my logistics were all out of wack.

Party_tonight · 2016-06-03T02:04:17+00:00

I don't usually chime in on here, but I'll tell you a story. On a cruise ship with a dance club on it. In Europe. While in the club I meet a hot blonde and she was into me at go starting making out on the couch or whatever furniture it was. After I few minutes it gets pretty touchy her hand down my pants and my fingers up her skirt. Was considering just fucking her right there. We get a few warnings and eventually escorted out by security. On the way down she says let's go to your room, my room was a no go because I was sharing it with my brothers, her room was also a no go, I just stopped her on the empty deck and she sat down on a stool at the bar and continued where we left off. Then she spread her legs and I just fucked her right there. So, as I see it, if you have a goal oriented no fucks given attitude, you win.

Niko_Choski · 2016-06-03T06:28:25+00:00

Always date within a 5 mile radius of where you live. Keep a good distance, but a 5 minute uber ride / car ride if you drove.

Meristry · 2016-06-06T19:04:57+00:00

Wanted to leave a reply to confirm this. Had sex yesterday with a woman who I had met fifty yards from my place at a local event. Was the easiest lay ever: 'Let's go to my place. I live there.' - 'Alright'.

Done.

GMUwhat1234 · 2016-06-02T18:34:38+00:00

but what about being asian? Asian men get cockblocked just because man....

Title	Logistics or: How to kill your game before you even walk out of the house
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Date	June 2, 2016 9:00 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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