Summary: Well what can I say, I am tired of the race whiners on TRP and alongside Asian men, Indian men have the tendency to whine the most about their race. As an Indian guy who has had a lot of success with women in the USA, this is my advice. If you follow my advice, your life will change for the better a year from now and you won't be one of those Indian guys who is always whining about his race (both on and off line). You will do a lot better with women, of all types, and love your life more.

Let me tell you, Indian guys do whine a lot about their race:

While the standard red pill advice such as lifting and learning game apply, I think that there are some parts of game Indian guys

Both in real life and online, I have met and run into countless Indian men that whine about their race. The usual "girls don't like Indian men" and "man I wish I was white" nonsense keeps coming up, before we can solve any of that, lets get to the bottom of what is actually causing all of it. The victim mentality, low self-esteem, and toxic personality that literally drives people away from you.

It's Indian parents, without question.

The way your parents raise you has an impact on how your self-esteem, personality, and confidence are like in your adolescence as well as your adult years. Indian parents are probably worse than Asian parents, they work their ass off to raise betabucks. Here in the USA, Indian parents are constantly trying to compete with each other on who can give their kid the most beatings for making a B or talking to girls. Your low self-esteem, low sense of self-worth, lack of confidence, and weakness mainly comes from parents who wanted you to be that submissive beta buck.

Maybe it's because your dads who were forced into an arranged marriage are envious of the fact that you are in the western world and have freedoms. Perhaps there is money at play and your parents want to make sure their plans to get you an arranged marriage don't go south. Best way to ensure that? Raise a spineless kid who girls will avoid like the plague. Your race whining spineless attitude and gloomy outlook on life comes from years upon years of parenting that is world class when it comes to raising betabucks.

It doesn't matter how westernized you are, traces of your parents' and their backwards way of raising kids are still there.

So what can you do?

You must tell your parents to fuck off, start slowly but gradually improve. One way or another, you have to stick up to your parents because the truth is, they do not have your self-interest at heart, they have theirs. The raised by narcissists sub on reddit is a great start to facing it all. You don't have to hate your parents but you have to realize that they do not know what is the best for you and their aspirations of life require you to be a virgin at 25 and have sex with only 1 girl they picked out for you.

Now that we have that out of the way, lets start addressing some other issues that plague Indian men and how they can fix them.

1 - Stop trying to one-up people around you, no one is impressed.

Indian guys, westernized or not, do this so much (Persians and Arabs do it too). Stop trying to throw your weight around about how much money you make and trying to one-up almost every single guy you run into. Not only is it annoying but it shows how insecure you are. Now if that wasn't bad enough, it will also cause people around you to hate you and make you some enemies that you do not want. Western women that look good can easily climb the corporate ladder and date a guy driving a Lambo, they are not impressed by your BMW.

2 - You're a fucking Indian male! Not "Italian", Persian, Latino, etc.

I see it so much about Indian guys with a lighter skin tone, this desperation to pass off as other races. "Oh me? No, I don't even look Indian, I look Italian!". First of all, this just screams low self-esteem and to make matters worse, you probably look Indian anyways. By doing this, you've already said to the world that the race you were born into is inferior to others and you are desperately begging other races to accept you as their own. To most people, you look like an Indian guy, no matter what shade of brown your skin is. Just own up to it, be proud of it, and embrace it.

FYI, I know some Indian guy is going to barge into this thread and boast about how the part of India he is from is so much better than other parts. Look, you're a fucking Indian male! That is what most other people see you as and they could give less of a shit about what part of India you're from. You think that HB9 at a club even knows the different parts of India let alone where on the map it is? You're Indian, accept it or be a self-hating loser for life.

3 - You're probably better off in an area without a ton of Indians in it if you want to go interracial.

Toronto and Vancouver are probably the worst cities in North America, if not the world, for Indian guys that want to date hot girls of other races (especially white girls). Why? The cities are loaded with lots of Indian immigrants who have acted in such creepy ways that they have completely ruined it for Indian men in general. If hot girls go for Indian guys in those cities, their social status is taking a nose dive and most hot girls don't want that. I know it kinda sucks but it is what it is, location tends to matter even more if you aren't a white guy.

4 - Ditch your brown friends and branch out.

I seriously mean it, your Indian friends are likely feeding your insecurities talking about how their part of India is better than yours or whatever, ditch them. The Indian guys I've known who have done well in the game had friends of various kinds of races. Going out to the bars with your 5 Indian friends is automatically going to make women avoid you and see the worst stereotypes about your race, it's just the way it is. Plus, you can gain a lot of perspective and benefits by having friends of various ethnic backgrounds, take advantage of that.

5 - Brace yourself for the shit-tests: zone out from the stereotypes and statistics.

Once again, there are nasty stereotypes about Indian men out there and unlike with black guys, it is okay to be racist towards Indian guys. The liberal media won't be protecting you anytime soon, it is just the way it is. You will hear racial slurs, race jokes, and other nasty statements about your own race. The fact of the matter is, the idea of an Indian guy doing well with women (especially hot white girls) is not going to sit well with most Americans. You are going to get a lot of shit-tests and racist nonsense thrown right at your face the second you walk into a bar with a hot blonde by your arm.

"What's wrong with Indian girls?" (Watch as the comments on this thread whine about me talking about getting hot white girls as an Indian guy)

"says stuff in an Indian accent to mock you"

"You know, girls don't like Indian guys!"

You need to be strong on the inside as an Indian guy, you have no other option. The western world, especially the USA, is going to go right at you the second they realize that an Indian guy has aspirations of wanting to get hot girls. Again, it's okay for white guys and black guys to date and fuck good looking girls but by the logic of some people, it isn't okay for an Indian guy to get hot girls. I suggest taking up MMA because there are going to be some tough times. You just won't hear too many good things being said about Indian men in the game. The truth is, even though a lot of women might hate Indian men as a race, they will still get with alpha individuals.

All that being said, I have known Indian guys that killed it in the game and the ceiling for a higher SMV Indian guy is pretty damn high.

I am talking about Indian guys that were banging hot girls of all races (even hot all American blondes who are known to be racist towards foreigners from countries like India, I know a couple of Indian guys who only bang those types of girls) and living the life. Despite the stereotypes on TRP, I've known Indian guys that have done quite well with online dating and Tinder (I am talking having matches that were close to that of a Chad).

If you really do invest the effort into it, you will find that the ceiling for Indian men is pretty fucking high in the western world. While the average Indian guy probably has it the worst (tied for Asian men in terms of having it rough), a higher SMV Indian guy can do just as well as a higher SMV guy of any race, I've seen it play out. So while things look tough and gloomy right now, know that there is a light at the end of that tunnel.

Lessons learned:

1 - Indian parents are responsible for a lot of the beta male traits you see in Indian men.

2 - As an Indian guy, there are some game specific issues you have to realize and overcome.

3 - While the average Indian guy has it really bad, the ceiling is pretty high for a high SMV Indian guy, he can do as well as the best of them.