In every situation, someone is getting what they want. If you're nice all the time, it will never be you.

Docbear64 · 2016-12-23T05:07:11+00:00

I will forever argue that Sweet Dreams by the Eurythmics lays out the four base - motives of relationships quite clearly .

Everybody's looking for something.
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused.

filitantmeminist · 2016-12-23T00:37:03+00:00

it's my turn

This has been my motto since I found TRP. It changes everything.

Any time I wake up, I'm feeling anything less than 100%, or I am just thinking about work.

"It's my turn."

Bkblul · 2016-12-23T03:22:41+00:00

I understand that your post was written with sex in mind but really your point is related to everything in life we do. Stand up for what you deserve and become someone that women/employers/friends want and they will give you what you want.

The general rule of thumb (and this comes from our tribal days) is to only give with the intention of receiving something of equal/greater value back.

It's really upto you to decide the value of things. I find that nice guys are afraid to live life by the above rule because they are desperate for approval and they crave anything they can get (which ultimately pushes people away).

Despite what society will want you to believe, the above rule is true and is ingrained into us all. If you aren't standing up for what you deserve then I'm sorry to say but you're a sucker.

Until nice guys release that, they will always be trapped making other people feel better and never themselves.

PaperStreetVilla · 2016-12-23T02:01:07+00:00

Theres a nuance to it. A man is judged solely by his value to others.

no1z · 2016-12-23T13:30:28+00:00

This is a false dichotomy. Its possible to have interdependent relationships where everyone's desires are satisfied.

samenrofringslikeLBJ · 2016-12-23T05:03:15+00:00

I think one has to qualify the opposite of "nice" is not being a bulldozer. I see plenty TRP posters who go to the other extreme and start behaving like animals in their quest for alpha status. Getting what you want in a gicen situation is not mitually exclusive to the counter party getting its need fullfilled. Your post hightlights well how it even helps with women and how most guys fail with them because they do not ever go out and get what they want. But in life in general, it should not be setup as me vs them, thats a horribly stressfull life from experience. I had to claw my way through at many places before I found that those exact places is what the management consultants warn about. Eventually after a grinding fuckfest, you end up in a good spot with good colleagues and a good boss, if you are lucky. Wouldnt it be nicer not to have suffered all that stress getting there though?

BP society expands though, and sjw feminist marxists are ruining environments in public and private sectors alike. A much better strategy to survive those places is to play it Game of Thrones style according to the rule "Think as you like, behave as they do". It will save you time by getting more job skills, titles and such to bolt for better places. Of course, you are telling them this is not something you strive for, you hate ambition and success as much as the others, and yeah it fucking sux with trump now. Watch their faces as you bolt, lovely.

TLdr: The opposite of being a pushover is being socially competent and machiavellian in the modern workplace

stoicismexpress · 2016-12-23T15:56:53+00:00

What a bizarrely awful world view. You know those friends who you have no desire to compete against? Who you like as a person, knowing they like you back? Who you can chill with and have fun with and confide in? If not it's because your spazzed out mentaility of constantly trying to gain from people has destroyed your chances of making friends.

Harleydamienson · 2016-12-23T11:41:14+00:00

I agree all people are trying to get something from you, and are only interested in you as long as they can get something from you. Best avoided.

fcb98292 · 2016-12-23T12:20:23+00:00

Live on purpose, always with a goal in your eyes. Never take your hands off the wheel, or someone else will steer you into what they want. Being a nice guy only qualifies if doing so achieves your goal. However, manipulation is not RP. Beware of confusing progress with walking on people.

PawnToKing · 2016-12-23T16:30:48+00:00

You're either advancing your mission/purpose/desire, or catering to someone else's.

Listen up, children. This is a fallacy we call a 'false dichotomy.' this basically means that the two options presented aren't the only options. Always be weary of individuals who argue fallaciously.

orangefrogsup · 2016-12-23T14:55:52+00:00

Does this apply to family? I was negotiating with my family whether to go watch a movie with them and go to church(which I hate) or to stay home, which is all I've been doing all week. Spending time with family, even if it isn't enjoyable, is something you can only do when they are alive after all.

suske127 · 2016-12-23T04:02:39+00:00

Similar situation with me. Had a girl after me from 7th grade until 12th grade and we had lots of fun but never "got together" or fucked. After graduating she started trying extra hard, cooking for me and such. She's lovely and treats me like a king so I stay around. I dominate the shit out of her which is why she hasn't gotten bored. In school I was pretty beta. The last 2 years or so I've become "alpha" and that's when she started being so pleasant for me. About 50% of our relationship is "comfort" - cuddles and sweet talk and such. (She has pretty severe anxiety and loves the comfort) But man she gets bored so fast she's usually begging me to fuck her and I don't even have the drive to, every time.

Like you say, if the shit testing stops or the submission fades, I don't plan to ghost her forever - but maybe a few weeks. She'd freak out as I'm still the only guy she's been with and genuinely thinks we're soulmates.

The pill is good. The results are great.

bmer92 · 2016-12-23T05:44:16+00:00

I find myself confused as my wife gives me literally whatever I want sexually whenever I want, Shes very affectionate and if im tired or dont talk to her on an off day she gets upset. However the shit tests only occur once every 3-4 weeks and they are so minor I dont even care about them. I feel like im going against the grain here but do you think its "really" true that shit tests = level of interest?

Raikkonen716 · 2016-12-25T19:58:26+00:00

everyone is going to try to push your buttons in some way in every interaction and unless you're a masculine rock solid vigilant fuck, you will get run all over in life

This sums it up perfectly. Awesome post, man.

AcidicBlink · 2016-12-23T08:23:49+00:00

I was with you in the first part, and then it all went downhill very quickly.

Title	In every situation, someone is getting what they want. If you're nice all the time, it will never be you.
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Date	December 23, 2016 12:30 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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