As Bill Burr once said 'ladies your issues may not get resolved but at least people give a fuck'.
And its true. Women have support systems for their depression, they have systems in place and people are much more prone to be sympathetic to women and don't want to see a woman suffering, people want to help and show they are not alone.
But for men we are alone, partially because of the traditional view that men cannot show weakness, but the biggest reason is no one cares. People don't just not care they distance themselves from you. Men and women will just walk away or show a miniscule amount of compassion. Men know that expressing our depression or darker thoughts is a terrible idea because it will make matters worse, not better.
There is this modern trend that traditional gender roles cause men not to talk about this, I think that's a small component of the reason, but its because most of us know if we come forward with our issues, the people around us and society at large will largely shun us. Therefore we bottle it in and deal with it by ourselves, not because we are afraid of not looking like "real men" but because we know we are alone in this struggle and if we open up we will lose so, so much.
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Ohhhhh...you mean that woman that you gave zero respect to and texted "hey wanna sit on my face?" doesn't want to hear about your depression? Shocking!
Edited to add: I have played therapist for every man in my life since I was probably 12. I'm over it, I actually get paid to do that now. Next!!
[–]riseaboveagainFDS Apprentice25 points26 points27 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Ha! Right?
To that man: Are you upset that nobody has asked you how you are feeling today? Hmm. Well, did you ask anyone else how they are feeling today? Did you ask anyone this week? This month?
And if you did ask anyone how they were feeling, did you actually listen to their response? Did you sympathize or celebrate with them?
Don’t ever expect to get things you’re not giving.
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This!! Sis, you're SO right. More of that male entitlement. "Well, women are supported, so we deserve to be supported! Wah, misandry!" Hey dumbshit, why don't you look at the things women DO to build support systems and then DO THAT instead of thinking that the world fucking owes you something?!
Also, as a woman that has supported a fuckton of men, I know exactly what that gets you. Dumped or cheated on.
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Hahaha for real!!!
[–]Pizza-n-LiceFDS STRATEGY COACH47 points48 points49 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Every girl I know that was depressed has concealed it. In one case I only found out because she flinched when I grabbed onto her arm. Most people don't go around announcing their depression to everyone, there is still a lot of stigma about it in society. Most older family members that knew about my depression just thought I was weak and spoiled. If they want to talk about it there is therapy. All the talking in the world won't help anyway, it often needs medication and lifestyle change. I'm not going to be free therapy for guys.
I've done it before, dude talked about how depressed he is and how he almost threw himself under a train once, then tells me I should date him when I was supportive.
Women just get called attention seekers when they are open about their depression anyway.
[–]rad_daphneFDS STRATEGY COACH25 points26 points27 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Pathetic guys suck. They use it to rape and abuse.
[–]ino_y44 points45 points46 points (0 children) | Copy Link
What, like our girl friends that we cultivate, our family, and you know, going to a professional who legally has to keep their trap shut?
Men have the same opportunities, they choose to wallow, isolate and *gasp* blame women.
You're perfectly free to make men's support groups, guys. Oh, you choose not to, because you're the ones shitting on each other for being depressed.
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Unpopularopinion has become "daily dose of men good, women bad".
[–]grimreapersdtrFDS Disciple26 points27 points28 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Eight awards. Give me a fucking break.
[–]heythere360FDS Newbie[S] 51 points52 points53 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Not belittling depression in the slightest, but this post and all the comments are thinly veiled attempts to call to all pick-me’s to rectify a situation which honestly would be better handled with men supporting other men.
Women create body positive movements and get shit on by men (“Stop telling each other fat is attractive!!!!/ WhY is there no body positivity for mEn?!?!”)
Then in response pick me’s started the dad bod craze and of course never got thanked or picked LOL shocker.
And now women in the comments are getting bashed and criticized for supporting each other. There are so many examples of “when my sister/gf/female imaginary friend had depression all her friends were there for her!!!!)
Like dude...where tf are your friends? If your family doesn’t give a shit you’ve got bigger issues.
Men perpetuate their own problems. I’d love to ask one when’s the last time they asked their buddy “hey how’s your mental health bro” he’d choke or lie. I check up on my loved ones on a deep level daily. Why expect to get something you yourself do not give?
But once again women are implicitly blamed for everything. What’s new.
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I love that now even women supporting other women is seen as an attack on men. They can fuck right off
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None of them do any of the social legwork that women are expected to do like: arrange get togethers, get gifts, send cards, call family, check in on loved ones, be there for people...etc
Then they turn around and get upset when people don’t do the emotional legwork for them- and I’ve seen this with my brother, exes, dad, and male friends. I have no sympathy, if they wanted a support network to help them, than they should’ve cultivated that support network by helping other people in need long before they started to need help themselves.
[–]Aenema_9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly! I can’t imagine being friends with somebody where we can’t talk to each other about our problems, goals, dreams etc. I don’t have very many friends, but the ones I do are very close to me bc I view shallow friendships as a total waste of time. If you can’t text your friend “hey, is everything okay with you?” when you notice them acting differently than usual, and know they wouldn’t ask the same thing to you while you’re struggling then is that even a real friendship??? If men want to have super close friendships like that, they have to build them themselves.
Another thing I find funny is that anti-feminists are the first to scream about how feminists want to “feminize” (aka weaken) men by encouraging them to be vulnerable, but then will complain about how they can’t be open about their depression/other mental health problems. 🙄
[–]grimreapersdtrFDS Disciple22 points23 points24 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Seventeen awards now.
Social engineering and political think tanks are getting a bang for their trolling bucks.
Fascists love to increase misogynistic ideologies among men, it increase their loyalty and helps them collect more young and eager recruits.
I know I might sound like a tin foil hat conspiracist, but a certain famous political party in 1930s Germany recruited a ton of men in part via nationalizing misogyny, stripping women of their legal rights, property rights, employment rights. Propaganda and film helped solidify their attitudes. Social media is the newest form of billboard or propaganda film. Telling them they’re being “persecuted” is what is solidifying them in a movement to crush women, minorities. They have more money behind them, their families and religious institutions support white “christian” male supremacy and the inferior placement of ethnic minorities, women and children in terms of legal rights. This bullshit, day after day, is radicalizing young men. We should be more alarmed than we are, at least in my country.
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I havent looked at the post because I have already read enough on Reddit today to thoroughly piss me off. But is anyone talking about how the patriarchy created a "men shouldn't be pussies and show emotions" narrative, and modern men continue to uphold that narrative by shitting on each other about it? Are there any men in there going "hey bro, let's help one another with this!" Cause if not, they're utterly missing the point. I am really fed up with everything being women's fault.
[–]grimreapersdtrFDS Disciple14 points15 points16 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes. The bottom line in these manifestos is always "Women are screwing men over. Women have the upper hand and men are being victimized."
[–]throwawway209120 points21 points22 points (0 children) | Copy Link
These posts I do not understand at all... a grown adult is scared to get help bc of the back lash? Last time I checked it was you and the doc together working on to solve the problem, not all of his friends in the rooms with the doctor. They act like if they have depression they have to announce it to the world. All of my girl/friends that had depression went to the doctor and theapist months and months before letting me know whats up.
[–]scrimshandyFDS Newbie17 points18 points19 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Also the “systems” in place that women have for dealing with the depression are usually social circles (which we tend to invest more time and emotional energy in) and healthcare (women (who can afford to go to doctors) tend to go more than men.)
Like, there’s more to it for sure — but that’s my main issue with the OPs post 🙄🙄🙄
[–]ThatsWhat__I__SaidFDS Apprentice16 points17 points18 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Unpopularopinion, askReddit, AITA and many other subs are just thinly veiled forums for men to whine, and to trash women. I use the Reddit Enhancement Suite addon for Chrome and filter that shit out.
[–]Pizza-n-LiceFDS STRATEGY COACH13 points14 points15 points (1 child) | Copy Link
they're full of fake posts to demonize women too, then they can use them as confirmation of their bullshit on MGTOW and TRP
[–]ThatsWhat__I__SaidFDS Apprentice11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It kills me that they're SO sure that they're SO clever, like no one with two fucking brain cells couldn't see through their contrived circle-jerking bullshit.
I really need to stop cussing so much...
[–]Uglyoldncranky1982FDS Newbie13 points14 points15 points (0 children) | Copy Link
wHy fEmAleS nO bE mY tHeRaPiSt?
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Men have the EXACT same resources for mental health as women do. EXACT. A doctor or a therapist. Of course they won't go until their girlfriends begs him for years or makes the appointment for him herself. This is the same story I read in the relationships subreddit everyday. Women supporting and begging men to get help and them ignoring it and stubbornly refusing.
Over double the amount of women have depression then men and yet we are supposed to spend our lives trying to help them.
[–]ItsFreezenFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This
[–]rad_daphneFDS STRATEGY COACH31 points32 points33 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Men are whiny bitch babies who expect women to be their slaves and solve all their problems and do everything for them.
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In today’s episode of “but men have problems too 😭”