Date brought female friend, tried to push her on me

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July 5, 2020
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Hey boys,

I was out with a girl today. I was interested in plating her. But she brought a friend with her to the date, because of language trouble. We had planned a hike that would last a couple of hours. And after we went to a café.

Anyway, her friend wasn't that good looking compared to her. She dared me to kiss her friend on the mouth and neck. I had kissed my original date last time we met. The question is, did I f**k up when I kissed her friend? Like showing that maybe I would get with a girl with lower SMV than her.

Maybe it was a test? I just tried to enjoy myself and show that I wasn't scared. Because it seems like we ended on a bad note. I don't have that much experience, anyone have some clue what happend ?

I'm thinking just nexting because I kinda regret not just leaving immidiately when my date brought her friend.


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Title Date brought female friend, tried to push her on me
Author throwawayu4321
Upvotes 85
Comments 50
Date 05 July 2020 07:09 PM UTC (9 months ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/705808
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/hls74i/date_brought_female_friend_tried_to_push_her_on_me/
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[–]silvereddi231 points232 points  (3 children) | Copy

My theory is this: Even though you kissed original girl on first date, she lost interest in you afterwards but thought you’re a „good guy“ and wanted to couple you with her friend who saw your pics and thought you were cute. So she only agreed to meetup with you in a hidden agenda to bring her friend and couple both of you, because she herself isn’t interested in dating you anymore.

[–]shegotmass50 points51 points  (2 children) | Copy

This is the right answer.

[–]babybopp45 points46 points  (1 child) | Copy

OP should have just dropped original and hooked up with the friend then ghosted them both.

[–]Joe_Doblow8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don’t know why I laughed at this

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon60 points61 points  (1 child) | Copy

The question is, did I f**k up when I kissed her friend? Like showing that maybe I would get with a girl with lower SMV than her.

Yep

Maybe it was a test? I just tried to enjoy myself and show that I wasn't scared. Because it seems like we ended on a bad note. I don't have that much experience, anyone have some clue what happend ?

She's trying to help her friend hook up. She's moved on to someone else, but think you are good enough for her friend.

I'm thinking just nexting because I kinda regret not just leaving immidiately when my date brought her friend.

Nexting should have already happened.

[–]jackandjill223 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Correct answer.

[–]opper-hombre144 points45 points  (5 children) | Copy

Reverse that shit bro.

“I dare YOU to kiss her on the mouth and neck”

This way you keep frame and control the interaction

[–]throwawayu4321[S] 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

I did, didn't work out.

[–]i-am-the-prize2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

good man. too bad.

[–]Grave_Heresy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The second thing that came to my mind when I read the OP story

[–]thesaoexpress0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

🔥

[–]NabroleonBonaparte56 points57 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your original date seems batshit. I don’t believe it had anything to do with threesome or anything.

She might’ve just been retarded.

[–]Decimus_Stark35 points36 points  (2 children) | Copy

This was no 3 some attempt, thats ego projection. Women are usually open verbally or situationally to that sort of thing. This was a shit test. Yes, it was. Lets dig into it.

"Anyway, her friend wasn't that good looking compared to her. She dared me to kiss her friend on the mouth and neck. I had kissed my original date last time we met. The question is, did I f**k up when I kissed her friend? Like showing that maybe I would get with a girl with lower SMV than her."

A: Women know exactly where they are on their SMV scale, she knew her friend was of lower value then her. So this goes into, whats a shit test? A shit test is built to root out weak, unvaluble, and DESPERATE men. She wants to know that your the real deal. Guess what, you failed, your no longer on the "maybe" side, your on the "no" side. You proved you were desperate when you gave into her. Thats why everything soured after, your no longer worth her time. The medium is the message.

A common misconception about frame is, its just confidence. Its not just that, its also value. If your confident, and valuable, your going to have standards, and not throw them to the wind when some young hot girl comes your way with the "potential" for sex.

Don't feel bad, you got nexted, move on. By the way some of the guys commenting who are saying, "Dude, you missed your shot at a 3 some" would fail this.

[–]throwawayu4321[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

You nailed it. Appreciate the answer

[–]thesoloronin3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Marvellous response. Thanks for this too.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

She dared me to kiss her friend on the mouth and neck.

You: "No, I dare YOU to kiss her on the mouth and neck."

Also, don't allow girls to bring a friend on one-on-one dates. If that happened without clearance from you, that's a problem.

[–]Unlikely_Composer77 points78 points  (1 child) | Copy

You threw away a threesome

[–]Grave_Heresy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Duuude exactly what I was thinking!

[–]Musicgoon33 points34 points  (7 children) | Copy

Jesus man. Never throw away a chance at a 3some. You let her control the frame. You should let them both share you.

Next time, game and escalate with both.

[–]2319Skew58 points59 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yea. I'm going to say no. Just because you can have a threesome it doesn't mean you SHOULD have a threesome.

I mean you do you but if your date brings Whoopi Goldberg, I'd hope that your response isn't to fuck that.

[–]Musicgoon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well of course. I was thinking if one is ok and the other one is hot, not bad. But if one in a mountain troll... Uhhh no..

[–]benhurensohn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

implied

[–]idevastate0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

lmaooo

[–][deleted]  (2 children) | Copy

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[–]Musicgoon0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Yes I think 3some. Guys that go for 3somes are going to get 3somes. Don't be a negative Nancy. Making an assumption that OP can't pull this off is bullshit.

Secondly what makes you think that 3somes only happen if you've slept with one or both chicks 1on1 first?

Always err on the side of ridiculously bold with your actions OP.

[–]trele_morele4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Congrats, you got friendzoned.

[–]ardu-5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

oof

[–]aDrunkenWhaler2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

"I'll do it if you do it first"

[–]fartingaround2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

U shudda told the 2 girls to kiss

[–]_-resonance-_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

“I thought you’d never ask... but ladies first.” [head-nods date to kiss friend] (u/doubleconversation4)

[–]ValorElite1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

What country is this?

[–]awihsoj1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The way I see it you had two good options. 1st is to you could have held your frame and simply said no. It would show you wouldnt just settle for what you want. It may make you look like am asshole, but girls will always forgive you for being an asshole and disrespect you for not holding your ground. The second is flip and amplify. Could have said something like "How about you kiss her" or "I'll do that if you kiss me". Could have led to a 3some.

[–]MikeAlphaGolf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

In her mind you’re lower value than her. If you don’t like her friend then move on from both. You’ll never get the original girl now.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Same type of shit happened to me a year ago. Girl was all over me all night kissing and dancing at bars.. didn’t take her home.. snap chatted for a week then the following weekend she tried pushing her uggo friend on me. Lost my frame and just left lol.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Leaving that situation isn't losing frame. It's putting your time to better use.

You don't want the ugly friend, and the one you want doesn't want you.

Nothing to gain there, so may as well leave.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed. But I did get a bit upset and didn’t handle it well. Who would though really? It’s quite a WTF moment.

[–]Grave_Heresy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Three ways you could've gone about this:

  1. Tell her that you'll kiss her friend if she does.

  2. Tell her she's batshit and leave (My personal fave)

  3. Ask her what do I get if I kiss her?

If I was in your position I would've told her to stop playing.

[–]idontmiind1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Imagine how you'd react if you weren't in your head... or didn't give two shits about these girls cus you had 2 other hotter plates lined up for the weekend? All in all its barely a loss and a good lesson. Keep moving soldier!

[–]FleshPanda2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just fuck the ugly one.

[–]throwawayu4321[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Believe me, it seemed more like it was some ego-thing for her. Pretty girl with less attractive me. No, at the end was not mood for threesome.

The question is really, was it a mistake to kiss her friend with lower smv friend in front of her? I of course tried to dare her several times back to kiss her friend, to test the waters for threesome. But she wasn't interested in kissing her. And neither was really I. I Wasn't really attracted to her friend at all.

[–]throwawaycunt19976 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s always an ego thing with girls; their programming doesn’t run on much else besides their narcissism/solipsism.

It was a mistake to kiss her if that’s what you didn’t want to do. Absolutely game any and all girls, but do not escalate to anything you don’t want to do. You betrayed your own desire; (or lack thereof) now your frame is out of whack.

You can next her, softly or hard. At least give yourself some time for your frame of mind to recover.

[–]IV-IVm-I2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

it was a mistake to do something you didn’t want to do

[–]reduxDev0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why did you kiss someone you weren't attracted to? Her bringing the friend was an obvious "lemme see if I can get away with this bullshit".

I would've noped out instantly and questioned the sanity of the friend, ask the friend in a very straight up and confrontational way what the first girl said to her, and she'll tell you something like "she asked me if i wanted to go hiking with her and her guy friend". The first girl obviously had to say it wasn't a date or the friend would've felt like she was intruding on a date, which she obviously was.

Then it's simple "Sorry I have enough friends, not into this" leave.

The friend was obviously shy she was looking to sneak her way into a boyfriend without having to do much of anything other than not say no. And she wouldn't expect to be put on the spot, so if you had just asked her "whyd you think it was okay to tag along on our date" or something she would've folded instantly and given you what you're asking us for.

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[–]throwawayu4321[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wasn't the first time I met her

[–]Askmeiwontsaynot0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

threesome

[–]throwawayu4321[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for the answers guys, appreciate it. I thought just before I kissed her that this is maybe a bad idea. I got the test backwards, thought maybe she would be jealous or it was to check if I was scared. Lesson learned. Good to have this place instead of asking her what went wrong and not get the real answer.

[–]MonxtahDramux0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're overthinking. Get more plates.

[–]WickedMo130 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You should have made multiple threesome sex jokes and then made out with them both at the same damn time and then had a thressome

[–]dudedoodickle-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

should've fucked the uglier girl in front of the original one eh?



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