Women have a tendency to grossly characterize acceptance of their faults or downsides as opportunities to portray masculinity or courage. Debate: It's never worthwhile.

For the plebes and townies it's that comically transparent "iF yOu cAnT hAndLe mE aT mY wOrsT, yOu dOnT dEsErVe mE aT mY beSt" which just about anyone but the illiterates they trick into blowing their load inside them the first time around can see through.

After which it's all MaN uP, "a daddy isn't defined as the man who makes the child...anyone can make a baby but it takes a ReAl MaN to raise a child

Don't these idiots have even a modicum of shame or self awareness it's so gross lmao.

But it's not just them. Then you have the bourgeois who try and pretty up the foregoing sentiments with $10 words they learned the day a week they went to class in between having trains run on them at the club bathroom

"Real men aren't intimidated by strong men"

"Only boys want immature girls (i.e. youngest tightest hottest wettest most energetic pussy) ....rEAL mEn want an office slave wagie neurotic Karen pHd holder with multiple six figures of debt and wrinkly ass face " 🤣

"Real men want a challenge"

"Real men want strong, independent women"

Like not even a hint of irony as to how self-serving this is?

Challenge for its own sake somehow always ends up being a convoluted route to "accept exactly the specific flaws that this particular woman has YA WUSS"

Well frankly, any guy who is dumb enough to fall for it, even the prettied up bourgeois version, deserves what he had coming to him...

...but how can any man possibly be that dumb?

Arguably what "real men" want is a woman who knows that women's optimal role is to manage the homefront, with the understanding they should be rewarded for good performance

Wrinkled hag neurotic wagie Karen response: "mUhsOgYniSt wAnTinG a homemaker servant!!!111!"