Are these my only options?

AwkwardWebbedRalph · 2020-07-31T10:55:36+00:00

You’re allowed to have values, man. You have the right to commit to and withhold commitment from anyone you choose. Why do you think those types of people are your ONLY options? You can just fuck these women and keep it at that. You can also hold out for a single girl with a low or nonexistent N-count. The choice is totally yours.

That said, the pool from which you choose women will, in general, significantly grow in both size and variety as the amount of attractive traits you develop grows...things like game, physique, making yourself your mental point of origin, etc. If I were in your shoes, I’d make that my priority in terms of masculine development.

UEMcGill · 2020-07-31T12:37:06+00:00

"Poof",tick,tick,tick,"poof",tick,tick,tick,"Poof",...

Here that? The universe/god/yaweh/allah just created another sweet 18 year old church girl with strong values. Literally every minute a new one appears...

Abundance my friend. Embrace it. If you have a super strict set of criteria for LTR promotion there's nothing wrong with that (In fact I encourage it). Instead of lowering the entry level you need to up the volume.

Finish school and work on your career, my advice to you at 24 is to be setting up your life so that when you hit 30 all the right things are in place. In the mean time churn through as many chicks as you can. Hey, if the occasional branch swinger, cock carousel rider or whatever comes along have fun. You don't have to LTR them or even promise an LTR, let them do the work and try to win the position.

I met a lot of great girls in my life that I went into the relationship thinking, "Well lets see if she's the one?" even though there were obvious red flags. But what I should have done was gone into it thinking, "Hey she's not the one but she can add value and fun in my life, until she doesn't". Every relationship doesn't have to end up in someone standing next to a dead person in a box to be successful.

InChargeMan · 2020-07-31T13:12:34+00:00

Branch swing is not equal to casual sex. Why do you care why a girl wants to have fun with you. Have fun, enjoy your youth, but don't engage in a "relationship" with a girl with ANY red flags.

As others said, work on becoming a man of value, gain experiences, have fun, and don't get locked down with a woman in any of your three categories if they aren't 100% what you want as a long term partner. Be comfortable owning your point of view and outlook.

When a girl wants to lock you into a relationship as a condition of sex or dating, say: "I am looking to get married and have kids one day, but at this point in my life I'm about building myself to be the man I want to be and enjoying life." If you are of high value she will still want to have fun, if not, oh well. When it is a girl that you are 100% sure you want to commit to, then that is what you do, but NEVER EVER EVER commit to a girl because pussy. That shit is plentiful.

You know what is sad? Men in their 30's and 40's who say shit like "I got lucky" and "She let me have sex" regarding their wife. Is that what you want to be? You are so fortunate to have found this place, don't fuck it up.

AurelianFool · 2020-07-31T11:27:45+00:00

I'm in a pretty similar boat to you, so I don't have too much to add, aside from a question: why not look for more traditionally-minded women? Why not find a fairly large, Conservative church or mosque and look around there? I've known Mormon / Christian women that largely avoided the CC well into their twenties, and then got married fairly young. Obviously, AWALT, but if a low N-count is what you're after, people from Conservative religions are a lot more likely to fill that requirement than Secular types.

glowing_dolphins · 2020-07-31T12:28:51+00:00

At 24, that’s gonna be the way of it. Girls want to have their fun too, and they have to do it all before 26.

If you’re high SMV, it’s going to take time to find someone to match your standards.

You will get that “oh god, I’ve been in this stupid shopping center for ages, where have they hidden the fricking steaks” feeling.

Stay strong. Have fun. Keep vetting plates. Finding a worthy LTR gets easier as you get older.

echo979 · 2020-07-31T12:04:30+00:00

I wouldn't hurry or worry about all that. Your peak SMV will be in your mid 30s.

Work on yourself. Enjoy life. Become the best you can be on all aspects that count. Make this your top priority. In my experience, N-count is not that relevant. Look for a proper RP woman.

dilberryhoundog · 2020-07-31T20:47:55+00:00

I run a business.

The best workers in the job market are usually working for somebody else. Their high level hard and soft skills, make them desirable. If you can entice them to work for you, great.
There are workers that are looking for work when you find them. They usually have some kind of flaw. They are less desirable, but can work ok for a while before the flaw kicks in and they move on elsewhere.
Workers who have never worked before on the market, are the least desirable. Might be some diamonds in the rough but usually a big gamble.

See any parallels?

nantucketghost · 2020-07-31T18:46:57+00:00

Long story short: Wife (married 20+ years now) branch swung to me. My values at the time wouldn't allow it and actually tried to convince her to go back to her boyfriend of 2+ years.

I didn't feel scummy after I learned that most of the time women are afraid to be alone. They will grab a mediocre guy just because they are afraid of being an old maid. Unmarried, no kids, etc. That is their worst fear. So they settle.

Then a guy like you comes along and they jump. See they were not willing to wait for you to come along, but quickly realize their mistake when they meet you.

So here is the thing. If she isn't riding the CC - is in long term relationships, but just with a shitty guy, don't hold it against her. She's just being a woman and doing what they do.

Was I afraid she would pull the same thing on me? I didn't care enough early on, then when I started caring I came to realize she was truly with me because of me.

chad-i-am · 2020-07-31T13:14:31+00:00

The woman you marry 10 years from now might only be 15 years old at the moment. Better to wait. You're 24. Take your time.

RickTickTickyshaw · 2020-07-31T11:28:13+00:00

Seems like you are a high value man. Congratulations on having goals and doing well. Since you are not married yet, have fun, hang out, and hook up. I wouldn't worry and just not settle down yet. MRP exists perhaps because people lose your drive. Maybe go to TRP.

theycallmenubs · 2020-07-31T16:45:45+00:00

As others have said, you have plenty of time young padawan. Just focus on yourself and get your own needs met and have some fun along the way. When the right girl comes along she may eventually prove herself worthy to join you on your own life journey and mission. Git 'er done boy!

nDoMitable · 2020-08-01T02:13:27+00:00

Here's the thing I'm seeing...

When you're pretty young at 24, you're probably thinking the longer you wait the more women your age will have ridden the carousel or be tied down with a man already -- mostly relating to your number 3. I've seen that this more often than not is the only solution for most guys our age wanting a settled down life in the US right now --- This girl might not be drop dead but she's around your age, you relate with her, can experience life within the same timeline together, and settle down with kids one day.

Let's say you end up just messing around in your 20s with your number 1s and 2s and you're well into your thirties and you're about done messing around. Girls your age are mostly withered up a bit or have been around the block -- you missed out experiencing life with them in their 20s and your 20s together and ya'll mostly are probably doing it right now in youre 30s for the thought of kids or running out of time. AHH!

Or... you're pretty successful in your life in your 30s and the women that fit your criteria not having messed around and are pretty wholesome are like 18-23, lol. Leo Dicaprio type shit but tbh although it seems nice and all I'd feel kinda messed up having that many years over her but at the same time its not too bad.

The choice is yours bro I'm 23 and think about this shit a lot --- at the end of the day though never stop grinding for yourself!!!

Title	Are these my only options?
Author	Elephant_777
Upvotes	10
Comments	25
Date	July 31, 2020 10:47 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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