The reason I quit the "redpill" is frankly because the community is a cringey toxic cult that takes everything to an extreme. Obsessing over being alpha all the time, circle jerking on politics, thinking blue haired feminists are going to end western civilization and god forbid a woman put on a dominatrix outfit or a guy enjoys getting spanked or something.

However, I think I still subscribe to some principles the "manosphere" has imparted on me. Generally speaking, women are pretty shallow. That's not an evil or wrong thing, that's just a human thing. Generally speaking, women want men to lead. Generally speaking, I think it is kind of a loser mentality to have "oneitis." The basics that I learned, demonstrate high value, always have an understanding that you have options, lift, look good, etc I think are pretty valid and useful ways to live life.

Basically, I'm not blue pilled whatsoever. I just hate the redpill community, hate the politics, and hate the bitterness and resentment and circle jerking.

Are you guys on the same page or do you just flat out reject everything about the red pill?